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17 hours ago, Kenchington said:

Sorry, ClipperFan, but I don't agree that the published dimensions are inconceivable. I'm not saying that they were correct, just that they could have been correct.

 

A 46-inch total depth of keel, with 7-inch thick garboards and 39 inches of the keel outside those garboards would mean that the floors sat flush across the top of the keel. That wasn't the universal way of building a wooden ship but it was one way. The other option was to notch the floors so that they hung over the sides of the keel as far as the inboard edge of the rabbet (either of which options could have the added complication of a deadwood between keel and floors). Notching the floors meant starting with a very deep, very expensive piece and then cutting away strength where it was most needed, so there was a major incentive to lay the floors flat on top of the keel, if that could be arranged without either critical weaknesses in the structure or extra costs elsewhere.

 

Note that the published report says that the garboards were through-bolted (each bolt passing through both garboards, edgewise, and the keel between). Thus, there was no need for solid timber to take fastenings driven from outboard, through the garboard and into the keel -- though I don't doubt that the garboards were trunnelled (from outboard) to the floors, which themselves were bolted to keel and keelson. Then again, all those copper bolts will have been expensive, not to mention the labour for boring the bolt holes and driving the bolts.

 

Trevor

@Kenchington Cornelius McKay, son of Donald wrote about the authenticity of his hand crafted 1:48th scale (4' 8 & 1/2") Stag Hound model in his letter to Captain Arthur H Clark when he turned this beauty over to him. His instructions were to add 4" bottom and 5" wales planking. He included that the keel should also be added. It was built in two sections and had a depth of 30" (not 39"). Cornelius also said this builders model was crafted from the vessel's molding lines as they were taken off the lofting floor. Besides this documentation, Hall in his exhaustive lists of specs for many if not all of McKay's clippers confirmed that Stag Hound had a lower keel of 30". These two documents are sufficient proof of her 30" lower keel.

 

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For fun, I decided to add the figurehead. 
 

Rob

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Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

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Rob,

I'm amazed how delicately your canine figurehead completes your clipper Stag Hound bow. It's reminiscent of the old fashioned lions rampant on English ships of war. Congratulations on having the first replica to accurately capture the Stag Hound prow in her full original configuration.

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2 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Rob,

I'm amazed how delicately your canine figurehead completes your clipper Stag Hound bow. It's reminiscent of the old fashioned lions rampant on English ships of war. Congratulations on having the first replica to accurately capture the Stag Hound prow in her full original configuration.

Thanks Rich.   It does complete the stem.  When the bowsprit gets finished it will tie it all together.  
 

Rob

Current build:

Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196

 

 

Finished build:

Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/#

 

Current build(On hold):

Build log: 1/96  Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/

 

Completed build:  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/

The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."

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