halvoric Posted October 26 Share #1 Posted October 26 Started building this BIG kit (24”) while waiting for upgrade/kitbash parts for my Chesapeake Bay Flattie. I’m planning a finish in Amber shellac and a lot of kitbashing to add details like cane seats, scale-correct ribs (every 2”), scale outwales, and hardware. Also plan to change the floorboards to a more correct design for this Peterborough Model 44-based model. Bryan Woods, king derelict, ccoyle and 3 others 6 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #2 Posted October 26 (edited) The kit instructions recommend CA but I am trying to use Tite-bond wherever possible to make correction of mistakes more feasible. So this required a lot of clamps. I added a fifth plank (“strip”) that was plain basswood stained red with Varethane English(?) Oak. This turned out to be pointless as all the sanding required later removed all the stain. Followed advice I found elsewhere on MSW to fashion a method for putting twist in the ends of the planks. Edited October 26 by halvoric Spelling yvesvidal, Bryan Woods, JacquesCousteau and 1 other 4 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #3 Posted October 26 As I ran out of room for adjustable clamps and binder clips, I found a method using rubber bands and clothespins to keep the planks tight and flush. JacquesCousteau, Bryan Woods, JpR62 and 6 others 9 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #4 Posted October 26 Most of the strips needed a bevel along the mating edge (varying in angle between the center and the ends) and the last eight or ten had to be shaped to a point. Reading others’ build logs about the “Peterboro” (predecessor Midwest kit to this one) showed me how to manage it. Bryan Woods, druxey, Scott Crouse and 4 others 7 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #5 Posted October 26 Simple jig for edge sanding bevel on strips. SiriusVoyager, ccoyle, JacquesCousteau and 3 others 6 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted October 26 Share #6 Posted October 26 Very nice planking job! druxey, JacquesCousteau and halvoric 2 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #7 Posted October 26 (edited) Plank soaking tube made from 2” ABS pipe 21” long (leftover scrap from a plumbing fix). Once planking was done it was sanding and more sanding. Out to the backyard for some specular illumination to really see the low/high spots. Edited Thursday at 12:43 AM by halvoric druxey, Scott Crouse, Harvey Golden and 2 others 5 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #8 Posted October 26 DAP plastic wood seems to work well as filler; won’t know for sure until after the shellacking it’s going to get. Then it was time to sand the inside, which seemed difficult at first became simple over time, just using a small piece of sandpaper in areas where a block won’t fit. Last 2 fotos are before/after: it feels a lot smoother than it looks. SiriusVoyager, JacquesCousteau, Harvey Golden and 4 others 6 1 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesCousteau Posted October 26 Share #9 Posted October 26 Fantastic job! I know from my experience with the Midwest Peapod kit that the strip planking can be a little tricky to get smooth, you're doing an exemplary job of it. halvoric and Bryan Woods 1 1 Quote Current Builds: Lake Chapala Canoa de Rancho (1:32) [Scratch]; Lancha Chilota Coasting Sloop (1:32) [Scratch]; Completed Kit Builds: Model Shipways Dory (1:24); NRG Half-Hull Planking Kit (1:48); Midwest Maine Peapod (1:14) [Kit] Completed Scratch Builds: Xochimilco Trajinera (1:32); Juana y José Cross Section (1:32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #10 Posted October 26 39 minutes ago, JacquesCousteau said: Fantastic job! I know from my experience with the Midwest Peapod kit that the strip planking can be a little tricky to get smooth, you're doing an exemplary job of it. Thanks Jacques! Your Peapod build looks great! I will be studying the oar shaping section with great interest. BTW I have the same mini plane from Amazon—works very well for me, and good quality for the price. JacquesCousteau 1 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 26 Author Share #11 Posted October 26 Adding the sheer-line sections was trickier than I expected. First one I managed to find a way to clamp and used Titebond; the second would not cooperate so I broke down and glued with CA and the 15-second “hand clamp” method. Alignment suffered, but as always, sanding to the rescue. Bryan Woods, JacquesCousteau, Scott Crouse and 1 other 4 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesCousteau Posted October 26 Share #12 Posted October 26 (edited) 37 minutes ago, halvoric said: Thanks Jacques! Your Peapod build looks great! I will be studying the oar shaping section with great interest. BTW I have the same mini plane from Amazon—works very well for me, and good quality for the price. Thanks! The mini-plane has definitely been one of the most useful tools I've bought, even if I still sometimes have trouble figuring out which way to cut with vs. against the wood grain. If I were to redo my oars, I would probably try to taper the sides (and not just the top and bottom) of the oar shaft a bit to where they meet the blades, as I think that would look a bit more elegant than what I did. I might also round off the blade edges a bit more. Edited October 26 by JacquesCousteau Quote Current Builds: Lake Chapala Canoa de Rancho (1:32) [Scratch]; Lancha Chilota Coasting Sloop (1:32) [Scratch]; Completed Kit Builds: Model Shipways Dory (1:24); NRG Half-Hull Planking Kit (1:48); Midwest Maine Peapod (1:14) [Kit] Completed Scratch Builds: Xochimilco Trajinera (1:32); Juana y José Cross Section (1:32) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Collier Posted October 27 Share #13 Posted October 27 That’s a good looking canoe! Great job! I’m currently building the Indian Girl canoe myself and I hope it comes out as nice as yours. halvoric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 27 Author Share #14 Posted October 27 The first thing I wanted to modify from the kit was the false keel/external stems. The kit calls for 1/16” x 1/8” cherry strips for this, and I did use that lumber for the hull bottom. But my research photos for Peterborough Model 44 “Canadien” (or similar horizontal-strip models like the “LakeQueen”) showed thicker stock on the stems: This may have been a kit designer’s concession to ease of construction—bending the 1/16” thick Cherry strip is much easier than what I ended up doing. But I wanted this detail to match the original, so resolved to use 1/8” square Cherry here. yvesvidal 1 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 27 Author Share #15 Posted October 27 I had ordered some 1/8” square by 24” strips, in part for this purpose, and initially tried using my trusty plank soaker with 212F/100C hot water. Promptly began splitting pieces of Cherry in the assemble-it-yourself bending jig I found on Amazon: (cracked/split/broken pieces not shown) I also had to fashion the custom bending die (matching the canoe stem end curve) shown here on the jig. Seeing that soaking was not enough, I turned to steaming a 6-8” length of Cherry on the stovetop (lidded saucepan with veggie steamer) for 20-30 minutes. The steaming did the trick to make the square stock bendable (also had to select a section with minimal grain, or at least keep the grain from being oriented parallel to the bending force). Also had to help my form/die out a bit with a wedge (shown here) to close up a gap in the bent stock. After a few tries and re-bends, got it to where I could glue. IIRC I tried clamping and Titebond, encountered complications, and eventually broke down and used CA. SiriusVoyager, JacquesCousteau, Charter33 and 2 others 5 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 28 Author Share #16 Posted October 28 After gluing, I saw a few tiny gaps on the joints. Sanding filled them in (sawdust) for the most part, but I wanted a better fillet there so made a bunch of cherry sawdust and mixed with Titebond for a putty. Wish I had used white glue instead—the Titebond was a bear to sand. Some residue is visible in these shots: Cut a scarf joint for the join with the 1/8” x 1/16” keel stock. I’m planning to add a brass rub strip to the stems/keel, about 1/16” wide. Almost done with the finish sanding; need to straighten up the taper from keel to stem: yvesvidal, SiriusVoyager and JacquesCousteau 3 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halvoric Posted October 28 Author Share #17 Posted October 28 (edited) Brass strip examples: Brass strip mock-up/finish test. With a first attempt at micro screw: Edited October 28 by halvoric Added photo yvesvidal, JacquesCousteau, Bryan Woods and 2 others 5 Quote Dan Current kit build(s): Chesapeake Bay Flattie Canadian Canoe 1:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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