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 This has to be the quirkiest sternwheeler yet.

 

 This was a homemade sternwheeler built in 1938 by then 58 year old former ship carpenter "Captain" A.O. Engel of Pittsburgh, PA. His intent was to travel down the Mississippi towing a 62 foot barge carrying Engel's first boat, a 50 foot cruiser battered in a then recent Pittsburgh flood. Engel's plan was to repair the cruiser once he reached his destination. At the time, in 1938, Billy cost Engel $1,000.00 (approximately $23,000.00 in todays money) not including labor and was named for a grandson.  

 

 I discovered this image on e-Bay, it was a listing for the original press photo with writeup on the back. You know I bought it, right?! I am drawn to these quirky sternwheelers like flies to a dead mule. :wacko:

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 The cruiser kinda looks like a converted canalboat and is every bit as ugly as Billy, maybe even more so. If that duo were to knock on your door after dark you'd call the police. :)

 

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 This should be a kick in the pants. 

 

   Keith

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

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This is just a hilariously quirky prototype. So many oddball details to see, as befitting a homemade steamboat. This thing honestly looks like an AI-generated image derived from prompts written by someone who had never actually seen a riverboat. "Uh...draw me a boat with two paddle wheels and a big boxy shape and a room with big windows at the top and two smokestacks and, uh...let's start with that"

 

I love how even the chimneys are charismatically off-kilter. I think this thing is the singularity for your quirky steamboat obsession!

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34 minutes ago, Cathead said:

This is just a hilariously quirky prototype. So many oddball details to see, as befitting a homemade steamboat. This thing honestly looks like an AI-generated image derived from prompts written by someone who had never actually seen a riverboat. "Uh...draw me a boat with two paddle wheels and a big boxy shape and a room with big windows at the top and two smokestacks and, uh...let's start with that"

 

I love how even the chimneys are charismatically off-kilter. I think this thing is the singularity for your quirky steamboat obsession!

 It's a shame one of our 'like' choices isn't a smile.

 

 I'm not sure the stacks were for real, I think maybe ole AO stuck those on there as tongue in cheek. This tub (tub being the kindest term) didn't have room for a boiler and steam engines plus there are no pitman arms. It's 1938, it had to have had a petrol engine and I think it's right there at the stern between the two wheels. Maybe?? ......we have many fun days ahead to spitball this thing. :)

 

 Eric, thank you very much for throwing out the first pitch.

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

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I bet you're right. I was just rereading a history of the Ozarks earlier this evening, and in a passage on steamboating along Ozark rivers, the author notes that later gasoline-powered riverboats along the Osage River were still built with fake chimneys just for appearances. I honestly didn't think the 1938 date through when I noticed those wonky stacks.

 

28 minutes ago, Keith Black said:

Eric, thank you very much for throwing out the first pitch.

Funny you say this as I'm typing during a commercial break late in World Series Game 5.

  • The title was changed to Billy 1938 by Keith Black - 1:120 Scale - Homemade Sternwheeler
Posted

 I'm having a devil of a time trying to figure out Billy's dimensions, Billy looks like a M.C. Escher creation. Is that a 7 foot door with 3 foot transom window or a 8 foot door in total. If it's 8 feet in total the wheels are super tiny and Billy is only about 14 feet wide. The window size offers no relief. I'm thinkin' Peyote is the only cypher to Billy's dimensions. :)

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 1. Appears to be a handrail but I don't understand the why of it?

 

 2. This almost looks like a companionway to below. If this wasn't how to get below maybe the handrail was at a companionway opening to below?

 

 3. Billy had a flat nosed bow and AO had Billy pinned to the barge. There wasn't any cutting the barge loose to save Billy, wherever the barge went, Billy went.

 

 4. There was a upsweep to the boiler deck from the bow to the stern. 

 

 5. There was a upsweep appearance to the wheels but I think that's just aesthetics as there isn't and structural strength provided, IMHO.

 

 6. The engine was placed between the wheels and sat inline with the wheel shafts. Engel built Billy as a oneway ride down the Mississippi. Once Engel reached his destination Billy's traveling days would have come to an end, IMHO. 

 

Billy's wheels were so small (3 x 10 feet at most) I don't know if she could have made two knots on flat water towing that barge? No way was Billy coming back up the Mississippi with or without the barge! This means the engine could have come out of a scraped automobile or it could have been a salvaged gas powered marine engine, Scripps, Hall Scott, or other. I kinda like to think since Billy was a oneway ticket AO stuck a salvaged six cylinder automobile engine and transmission between the wheels doing away with the radiator and running straight Mississippi water through the water pump. I'll not be modeling an engine so one is free to use their imagination has to how Engel had Billy powered. 

 

 7. Exhaust 

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

Posted

Sorry I missed your first post, Keith. This must be just about the most 'original' paddle boat design ever. I'm not sure how you'll be able to top this one.

 

How is it that eccentrics seem to be drawn to rivers and paddle boats world wide?

 

John

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