Ulises Victoria Posted December 21, 2013 #1 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) I was browsing the Model Expo page, checking the offers and sales. Corel's Wappen Von Hamburg kit in case: List price $2,850 dlls. Offered with a 80% discount at $579. I have seen in other sites the Soleil Royal http://www.historicships.com/TALLSHIPS/Mantua/La%20Soleil%20Royal%20MA796/Soleil-Royale-MA796.htm and Sovereign of the Seas at around 1,200 dlls, and in my opinion, these are much more large, complex and beautiful ships. Just curious: Has anyone got the Wappen? Why is it so expensive? It doesn't look that attractive to me. Thanks. Edited December 21, 2013 by Ulises Victoria WackoWolf 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
aferox Posted December 23, 2013 #2 Posted December 23, 2013 I have built the Wappen, and I also have the Sovereign of the Seas on the shelf. The Wappen was a very large, high quality, and complex kit. And heavy; just about gave me a hernia moving it around when completed. The lower deck was complete, and that made for a more impressive model. For some reason one of the first things people do when they see one of my models is peer into the gun ports to check if they can see through to the other side. She built up into an impressive model, and (I think) she looks lovely. I would definitely place her on at least a par with the Sovereign of the Seas in terms of quality and complexity. Although she did not correspond exactly to reference materials, I think she was closer than most other model kits I have seen. Many years ago Smaug posted some old woodcuts of the Wappen on DDM, and I tried to finish mine to be consistent with those pictures. maggsl_01 and Ulises Victoria 2 Quote Current builds: Santa Maria (multi-kit bash), Constellation (AL) Past builds: Beagle, Thermopylae (restoration), Blue Shadow, Wappen von Hamburg, Half Moon, America, Golden Hind Ships in bottles (some): Marco Polo, viking ship, Prince
Ulises Victoria Posted December 23, 2013 Author #3 Posted December 23, 2013 Thank you aferox. Merry Christmas! Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
marktiedens Posted December 23, 2013 #4 Posted December 23, 2013 I ,too have built the Mantua Sovereign & Wappen Von Hamburg & agree with the comments of aferox.In my opinion the Wappen is a much higher quality kit than SoS.It would be a bargain at that sale price. Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways
Ponto Posted December 23, 2013 #5 Posted December 23, 2013 My Wappen Von Hamburg is currently on hold but would agree that it is the flagship of the Corel line of ships....I paid a little more than the listed sale price a couple years ago and this was after watching the prices bounce around for a time. I would suggest the list price is crazy high but that is what marketing is all about. JP Quote Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel), Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL) Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold Current WIP: Berlin by Corel On Shelf: HMS Bounty (Billings),
SaturnV Posted December 23, 2013 #6 Posted December 23, 2013 Listing a very high "retail" price and then having a "sale" price of a lot less makes the deal seem so much better, in turn getting people to buy the kit - "hey, I'm saving $2000 on this kit!" sort of thing. With that said though, the MS price is a really good price for this kit. The model is huge compared to others so in just the materials it would be worth the sale price. Richard Quote
NMBROOK Posted December 23, 2013 #7 Posted December 23, 2013 In the Uk all the big kits listed above are all pitched at a similar price,Sergal SOTS,Soleil Royal,Vasa and Corel Wappen von Hamburg.The equivalent of about $1100,so at the offer price of $579,that is a steal and probably cost price. Kind Regards Nigel WackoWolf 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
cristikc Posted December 26, 2013 #8 Posted December 26, 2013 You can find what is inside a KIT, how is made .... and so on, and you will understand why. Here are some examples: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4850-what-can-you-find-in-different-kits-unboxing-kits-video/ Also, if you want to buy part, timber, tools, ... and other, just to prepare a scratch (to look like a kit) you will see that is not cip Al the best and Marry Chistmas! Cristi edmay 1 Quote Current build : Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Finished: San John the Baptist - Cross section Santisima Trinidad - Cross section Galery Santisima San John the Baptist ( San Juan Bautista) Galery San John HMS Victory 1805 - Cross section - Corel 1:98 scale Panart (Mantua) 740 Battle Station Battle Station Panart 740 Galerry On Hold: HMS Bounty 1:64 Mamoli MV39
Lin Feng Posted December 27, 2013 #9 Posted December 27, 2013 The price of 2,850 $ cannot be correct as you can see here: http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/corel_wappen.html Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted December 27, 2013 Author #10 Posted December 27, 2013 The price of 2,850 $ cannot be correct as you can see here: http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/corel_wappen.html Well... ME still shows that list price for that kit, as you can see here: http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=SM28W Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
joemo Posted January 8, 2014 #11 Posted January 8, 2014 Major changes at Model Expo, see post from Marc who owned Model Expo years ago. Joe Quote
Jaxboat Posted January 8, 2014 #12 Posted January 8, 2014 The high price ME quotes is no doubt the MSRP and bears little resemblance to the true market price. However the ME sale price is a very good one. Quote
Keith_W Posted January 18, 2014 #13 Posted January 18, 2014 You think that is expensive Take a look at this Amati Albion - $20,900. http://www.agesofsail.com/ecommerce/amati-ship-kits/amati-albion.html (Yes I realize it's probably an error) Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel
Ulises Victoria Posted January 18, 2014 Author #14 Posted January 18, 2014 Yeah! Most likely a mistake. Not even already built would cost that much!!! Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
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