mij Posted January 14, 2014 #1 Posted January 14, 2014 I purchase a set of Amati Xebec plans 1;60 scale last week, and I must say, these are a very nice set of plans. This model will be built around these plans with some alterations. I used Cherry for the Stem, Keel and Stern and Tulip for the Bulkheads. I wanted to use 5mm ply for the Bulkheads, but my local store only had 4mm ply in stock, as I had a load of 7mm Tulip, I milled it down to 5mm and used that. Archi and KevinR 2 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted January 14, 2014 Author #2 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Cutting in the Rabbet. mij Edited March 24, 2014 by mij Archi 1 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted January 14, 2014 #3 Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Mij. The Xebec will build into a very nice looking model. Made a good start with the keel and bulkheads Where did you get the plans from ?? My reading glasses are on and awaiting more on this build. Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
mij Posted January 14, 2014 Author #4 Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Antony The plans are Amati and I orderd them from Cornwall Models last Tuesday and they came the following day. Great model shop. mij Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted January 14, 2014 Author #5 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) The bulkheads have all been fitted. Edited March 24, 2014 by mij Auvergne, sawdust, 42rocker and 5 others 8 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted January 14, 2014 #6 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Hi Mij. Yes I remember now you posting on where to get the plans I can see why so many people like this ship. Just look at the lines in the photos above Nice Jig .. Keeping the keel straight and the bow and stern square. Looking good. Regards Antony. http://www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=185 May be of interest to you. Edit Added link Edited January 14, 2014 by AntonyUK mij and WackoWolf 2 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
mij Posted January 14, 2014 Author #7 Posted January 14, 2014 Thanks for that link Antony. I will find some time and studdy that model, I`m sure I can get some ideas from it. Many thanks mij Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
captainbob Posted January 14, 2014 #8 Posted January 14, 2014 She's starting to take shape. Nice boat. Bob mij 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
themadchemist Posted January 14, 2014 #9 Posted January 14, 2014 Hello mij I'm glad to see another Xebec build surface. I recently acquired the ANCRE monography of Le Requin and I plan to one day attempt a POF of this magnificent vessel. I've been curious about the Cornwall Amati plans, so I'm glad to see this build log as I'm considering a POB build as a warm up before a fully POF attempt. That cherry keel is a really nice piece of wood. I love the way cherry carves, that had to make carving the rabbet easier. Have you decided on other woods, such as for hull and decking. I can't wait to see how you do the double decking. The Xebec's deck and grating design is such an unorthodox way of building. The deck planking has such a really interesting pattern also. I was just curious. What all came with the Amati plans? It looks as if they sent an instruction booklet but I was wondering what number of sheets are included with the plans and what info is there. I like the 1/60 scale and the price is really reasonable. The ANCRE plates are 1/48 which come in at 1.22 m. Although there is a single plate at 1/72 I prefer the 1/60 size for a POB. At 720 mm it should be more space friendly then the 1/48 also, but larger for better detailing then the 1/72. Anything past 1/60 also starts getting too small to work with for me. I've seen a Corel kit that has her square rigged, what they claim is polish-style, which has the square rigged main and square top mizzen rig that to me ruins the Xebecs lines. I love the tri-Lateen rig. How do you plan to rig yours? Another thing I've wondered about the displaying of the Xebecs is why the stern quarters are always ruined (Le Requin has beautiful carvings there) by having the oars mounted on the sides. I'd love to see a Xebec displayed with all oars in the water. It would really bring out the galley look of her lineage. That would require working sweep ports though. Looking forward to watching your progress. Quote
mij Posted January 15, 2014 Author #10 Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I shall be using cherry for the hull planking (single plank), sycamore for the decks and pear for the gratings. Cutting the 6x1.5mm cherry hull planking. Cutting the pear for the gratings Grating complete Edited March 24, 2014 by mij mtaylor, GTM, Auvergne and 1 other 4 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted January 15, 2014 Author #11 Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) This is the foot pedal I always use on my bench saw. mij Edited March 24, 2014 by mij Archi, mtaylor and Elmer Cornish 3 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted January 15, 2014 Author #12 Posted January 15, 2014 The Amati plans consist of, a very nice instruction booklet in Italian, an eight page building instructions in English, 1 to 1 sheet of all bulkheads and every thing else that needs to cut to a shape. 1 to 1 sheet of the yards, and a 1 to 1 sheet of the finish model, plan and profile. These are a wonderful set of plans. They came from Coenwall Models £12.96 ($17.28). mij Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
themadchemist Posted January 15, 2014 #13 Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks for the info on the Amati plans, mij. That helps make up my mind. Sometimes its easier to buy the plans to scale rather then trying to copy and scale new plans. I like your wood choices also. I've never seen Sycamore used before but its colour is perfect for decking. You have a lot of gratings to make, you'll be well practiced after making all the grating for a Xebec. Quote
mij Posted January 15, 2014 Author #14 Posted January 15, 2014 Yes, there are a lot of gratings, but with the grating jig I made, they don`t take that long to make. mij WackoWolf 1 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
WackoWolf Posted January 15, 2014 #15 Posted January 15, 2014 I like the jig. Jig's can save a heck of a lot of time, and as long as the jig is set right the item/items will always come out right on. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
mij Posted January 28, 2014 Author #16 Posted January 28, 2014 This is what you get in the plan set. mij Archi 1 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted January 28, 2014 #17 Posted January 28, 2014 Hi Mij. A nice set of plans for the price Regards Antony Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
mij Posted January 28, 2014 Author #18 Posted January 28, 2014 Fitting jelutung between the bulkheads. Bending 4x1mm cherry over a home made plank bender. The planks are placed in cold water for about 10 minutes, then taken out of the water and then placed over the hot plank bender and worked to the shape you require. Use the water as frequently as required. mij Archi, 42rocker, coxswain and 4 others 7 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted January 28, 2014 Author #19 Posted January 28, 2014 I was going to use sycamore for the deck planking, but decided to use maple instead. The size of the deck planking is 4x1mm and I used my plank bender to curve the planks. Deck planking fitted Smoothing the deck The deck after smoothing mij 42rocker, mtaylor, sawdust and 9 others 12 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted January 28, 2014 Author #20 Posted January 28, 2014 Making the garboards out of 1mm cherry. AntonyUK, Archi, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted January 28, 2014 #21 Posted January 28, 2014 HI Mij. Deck is looking real good. Regards Antony. mij 1 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
mij Posted January 28, 2014 Author #22 Posted January 28, 2014 Hi Antony Thanks for your kind comments, I`m doing all the main cutting of the timber in my workshop (garage) and all the fine cutting with a razor-saw and all the gluing in the conservatoy, Her in doors said NO DUST? MIJ Auvergne and Archi 2 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted January 28, 2014 #23 Posted January 28, 2014 Hi Mij. I also do all my building in my conservatoy and all my cutting and metal work is done in the shed. I would like a room just for our hobbys but the boss paints in watercolours. And likes the quite and space. Regards Antony. mij 1 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
sawdust Posted January 28, 2014 #24 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) Great job on the deck planking. Thanks for shoring. Kip Edited January 28, 2014 by sawdust mij 1 Quote
mij Posted January 30, 2014 Author #25 Posted January 30, 2014 Fitting some toptimbers made from pear. mij NMBROOK, Elmer Cornish, AntonyUK and 2 others 5 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted January 30, 2014 #26 Posted January 30, 2014 Hi Mij. Looking good. Question -: are the pear top timbers just glued to the ply bulkheads ? Still in the conservatory I see Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
mij Posted January 31, 2014 Author #27 Posted January 31, 2014 Hi Antony The top timbers are cut into the tulip bulkheads and glued, and yes, still in the conservatory. I`ve been a good boy and not made any dust, Yet. mij WackoWolf, mtaylor and AntonyUK 3 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
mij Posted February 18, 2014 Author #28 Posted February 18, 2014 Done a bit more to the Xebec. Cutting out the stern completed items cut out I don`t normally paint my models, but as these ships were colourful, I decided to give it a bit of colour. mij coxswain, Elmer Cornish, Archi and 6 others 9 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
AntonyUK Posted February 18, 2014 #29 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi Mij. Wow looking real good. The planking really shows off the beautiful shape and contours. Have already put this build on a to do list but I will only work on one ship at a time. Is there any carving to de done on the ship ? Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
mij Posted February 18, 2014 Author #30 Posted February 18, 2014 Hi Antony Yes, there will be some carving on her. They would be on the tip of the bowspit, the main rail to the poop rail, side of the poop deck and on the back of the stern. I`m not quite certain what tipe of carving I would do yet, but I`m open to all suggestions. Kind Regards mij AntonyUK 1 Quote xebec 1:60 scale, scratch build
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