@macbride Posted March 9, 2014 Share #91 Posted March 9, 2014 Steve, I'm envious of your meticulous skills! Nicely done!!! Here's my next move: Does that look reasonable?? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share #92 Posted March 10, 2014 Thanks for the comments J and Andy. They're encouraging. Andy, you're planking the hull already! Go for it. On the transom, I think you can let the planks run right past the bottom edge and leave them long as they dry. Then, after the glue is cured, you can trim them and you'll have a nice tight, clean joint. Did you have to heat the planks to get that bend in them? Thanks for sharing the pics. Steve Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@macbride Posted March 10, 2014 Share #93 Posted March 10, 2014 Steve, Yes- water then heat via an electric plate bender... Just did the first inner plank so far. Cheers!! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted March 10, 2014 Share #94 Posted March 10, 2014 Steve, Looks real good! Dont worry about how long it takes, just enjoy the journey. Advice I need to give myself regularly! Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share #95 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Dont worry about how long it takes, just enjoy the journey. Thanks Sam. I think this is going to be put on a plaque and hung on the wall above my shipyard. Steve Edited March 10, 2014 by SGraham Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted March 10, 2014 Share #96 Posted March 10, 2014 I gave my better half a shirt from a place by south lake bishop creek. Said "The journey is the destination" Bindy and SGraham 2 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Posted March 11, 2014 Share #97 Posted March 11, 2014 I gave my better half a shirt from a place by south lake bishop creek. Said "The journey is the destination" I really like this saying!! I also like "Steve's Glacial Progress Boat Works" because everyone knows that Glaciers are some of the most incredible and beautiful things on the planet Quote Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share #98 Posted March 11, 2014 Thanks Bindy. I agree with you about the beauty of glaciers, but as transportation they leave something to be desired. Your little Leudo is looking great. Nice fix! Steve Bindy 1 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share #99 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) A little more got done at the Glacial Progress Boat Works. The first photo is my very first garboard strake. Please enjoy the artistic arrangement of the splinters. The problem I ran into is that the keel of the Shenandoah drops steeply down as it goes toward the stern. This leaves a lot of room to make up for. On the plans it shows a number of stealer planks at the stern. They come all the way forward to amidships. The first stealer sits right above the garboard, which is notched to take it. I decided to try it this way. Here are the results. The planks are too thick at the sternpost, but I'll thin them out at the final sanding. Thanks for reading! Steve Edited March 16, 2014 by SGraham WackoWolf, KevinR, @macbride and 2 others 5 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted March 17, 2014 Share #100 Posted March 17, 2014 Steve, Looks good even your artistic composition! kinda reminds me of the Crystal Cathedral for some reason. Hmmmm If your Steves Glacial Progress Boat Works what does that make my 4 years on the Enterprise? Sams Tectonic Boat Works? Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share #101 Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks Sam. I think Sam's Tectonic Boat Works has an impressive ring to it. I'll keep looking, but I ain't seeing no Crystal Cathedral yet in that pile. Steve Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jct Posted March 17, 2014 Share #102 Posted March 17, 2014 Hey Steve, I do believe your scrap pile is relatively small...you should see the heap I've accumulated...the trees weep! What made it onto the hull look good, your scarf work on the keel is really tight. Nice job. J Quote Thx J In process On Hold US Brig Niagara Model Shipways Pinta ...Shipyard, card build; In the Queue HMS Endeavor...Corel; Completed builds Agilis...Steingraeber, Dual build with Popeye USS Hannah...scratch build to something between 1/72 ish and 1/60 ish scale Corel's...Half Moon; USN Picket Boat #1...Model Shipways; Model shipways...18th Century longboat.. Harriet Lane...Model Shipways Henry J Gasser Keeling-and-Clayton-mustang-funny-car Green Elephant Funny car Curtiss Sparrowhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted March 17, 2014 Share #103 Posted March 17, 2014 Steve, I'll have to find a picture of the building I am thinking of. Maybe I have the wrong building. I think also I should quit poking fun at the Gods of "Shake and Thump," It appears they sent me a warning this morning! And I agree with J, your scarfs look real tight. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share #104 Posted March 17, 2014 Thanks J and Sam. So Sam's Tectonic Boatworks was shaking? I was up at 6:25 but I didn't feel the quake. 4.7 ought to be big enough to feel from Westwood to Glendora, but I hadn't had any coffee yet. Steve src 1 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share #105 Posted March 19, 2014 Couple more strakes. Four at the bow, six at the stern. Note how the stealers shift aft as they go up from the keel. The next pair will start at the next frame back. Sorry about the picture quality. Steve @macbride 1 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jct Posted March 19, 2014 Share #106 Posted March 19, 2014 Hey Steve, Seems you've become expert a planking within just a few starkes, looks really clean. J Quote Thx J In process On Hold US Brig Niagara Model Shipways Pinta ...Shipyard, card build; In the Queue HMS Endeavor...Corel; Completed builds Agilis...Steingraeber, Dual build with Popeye USS Hannah...scratch build to something between 1/72 ish and 1/60 ish scale Corel's...Half Moon; USN Picket Boat #1...Model Shipways; Model shipways...18th Century longboat.. Harriet Lane...Model Shipways Henry J Gasser Keeling-and-Clayton-mustang-funny-car Green Elephant Funny car Curtiss Sparrowhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 19, 2014 Share #107 Posted March 19, 2014 Coming along nicely. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted March 19, 2014 Share #108 Posted March 19, 2014 Your hull planking is looking good. Keep up the good work. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bindy Posted March 19, 2014 Share #109 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Hi Steve, You may not get a speeding ticket with the speed of your progress but I would take your quality over speed any day !!! Your joins are perfect, the strakes are perfect and each step just looks exactly right! It really is coming along beautifully (and thank you for pointing out how the stealers are changing) Edited March 19, 2014 by Bindy Quote Completed Build: Bregante Il Leudo Merchant Launch - Mamoli - 1:72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@macbride Posted March 20, 2014 Share #110 Posted March 20, 2014 Steve, Your work is incredibly nice! I used whole lengths of wood to do my hull, which was not easy at times. I see u have segmented them, which looks to work better than what I did. How did u design the connections - is it based on an article or book u can recommend? I had to do some crazy things with stealers as well as some random filler pieces in the middle, so I can't wait to see how your hull comes together! Thanks, Andy fact77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share #111 Posted March 20, 2014 Thanks J and Bob and David and Bindy and Andy. I really appreciate the encouraging words. I felt a little funny posting pics again after I'd only added a couple of strakes, but I thought the stealers might be of interest. Andy, I just learned that stealers are wedge-shaped pieces of planking that are let into other planks near the stern. I think builders might use them at the bow as well, but someone who knows can tell us if that's true or not. Donald Dressel has a good discussion of stealers in "Planking Techniques for Model Ship Builders" (p. 64). Charles Davis does the same on p. 88 of "The Built-Up Ship Model." Davis says they "are a good way to raise the planking aft." Dressel says they are used in places where "the area to be planked is too large for the number of planks which are to fit into that area." I included a diagram from Davis' book showing the addition of a stealer plank. I used this diagram to determine the shape of the stealers I used. I used whole planks too. The only partial planks I used were the stealers. I'm going to mark in butt joints on planks later with a scratch awl or something. The planking shown on the hull plan for the Shenandoah has stealers on it. You have to look carefully. Starting at the garboard and working up, the pattern goes: Garboard (notched on its top edge to receive a stealer), first stealer plank, one plain strake with no notches, one strake notched to take a stealer, second stealer plank, one plain strake with no notches, one strake notched to take a stealer, third stealer, etc. I added a scan of the plan below. The first stealer starts at the middle frame and stretches to the stern post. The second stealer starts on frame back from the middle frame. The third starts one frame back from the second, etc. If you look at the run of the planking, you can see that it more or less follows the line of the sheer (the line of the top of the bulwarks). Without the stealers on this hull, the planks would probably curve downward at their ends near the stern, and that would look strange. I really hope to get away with single-planking this hull, so I want the first layer of planking to look right. If I mess up I'll go with a second layer. Anyways, That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Steve src, @macbride and Bindy 3 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@macbride Posted March 20, 2014 Share #112 Posted March 20, 2014 Thanks again Steve! Great info!! As for me, I was counting on the first layer for learning. My second layer (of thin walnut) looks pretty nice... much nicer than the first layer anyway! I will post pics on my log when I get back home from vaca. We are enjoying a few days on the gorgeous beach of Sanibel Island (Florida)!! Happy Planking!! Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share #113 Posted March 20, 2014 Planking is great fun, but I think I'd rather be on the beach! Have a wonderful time! Steve Bindy 1 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share #114 Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) Well, it's been a week since I posted last, so here's an update. I'm a little more than half way through with the first layer of planking. I hope it will be the only layer. I'm planning on painting the hull, so a little filler here and there should be fine. I haven't sanded anything down yet, so it looks pretty rough. I'm really enjoying tapering down the planks with a small plane. I've found that I can hang a pair of planks in the evening after work. That's about it. It's slow going but it's relaxing--and I guess that's the whole point. I like how the planking came together around the sternpost. There's some filler on it, but I notched the planks on either side to fit around the post. The port side notch cracked while I was handling it, but it went back in nicely with glue and filler. The gap in the planking underneath the counter is for a pair of stealers. I'll need one more pair of them back there before I'm finished. Also, the wide basswood plank below the lowest walnut plank is coming out. It bends down at the bow, so I'll replace it with a plank like the others below it. Thanks for reading! Steve Edited March 29, 2014 by SGraham src, Aussie048, dgbot and 4 others 7 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted March 29, 2014 Share #115 Posted March 29, 2014 Good start on the planking. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted March 29, 2014 Share #116 Posted March 29, 2014 thats progressing nicely Steve. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted March 30, 2014 Share #117 Posted March 30, 2014 Niceplanking job. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #118 Posted March 30, 2014 Thanks for the kind words, everyone. I'm learning a lot on this hull. Steve Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #119 Posted March 30, 2014 One more strake to go on the port side (not counting a couple of stealers at the stern. WackoWolf, @macbride, dgbot and 2 others 5 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share #120 Posted March 30, 2014 And there's the last one. I'll add the stealers tomorrow. Good night. Steve captainbob, dgbot, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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