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BANYAN

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Hi all,

 

I am a wood modeller but built plastic aircraft and a couple of ships in my youth.

 

I have an opportunity to purchase a ARII Yamamoto 1:250 kit at a reasonable price (second hand but still in box and plastic sealed bags) and am sorely tempted to build this little monster (41") :).  if I go this path though I would like to fully detail it.  I have found that GMM do a photo-etch kit for this ship at 1:250 but I have not been able to find a wood decking kit for this scale (unless I missed it at ArtWox, White Ensign etc).  I would also like to upgrade the guns (barrels at least) to brass and pther potential enhancements  (yet to decide to build as designed or in final sortie configuration with all the AA guns).

 

I have also heard that Pontos (Korean company) does some really good PE but have been unable to find a 1:250 for Yamamoto so far.

 

I would very much like to establish what accessories and detail upgrade kits are available for this kit before committing - any feedback and advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Hi Pat

Nothing wrong with plastic,but everything wrong with the Arii kit.There is so much wrong with it and the Doyusha version in 1/250,that you really would be better starting from scratch.If you are determined to build a large plastic Yamato,then the Nichimo 1/200 is a much better starting point and gold medal models do a full photoetch package for it.The snag is Nichimo folded a few months ago,so Ebay is your only real option.The kit still needs work as it is an old production,but not a complete redesign like the others.You may get lucky in that one of the Japanese suppliers may still have one,but this kit was only ever produced in batches so availability was limited anyway.You could join me in the hope that Trumpeter decide to produce one in 1/200(although I do have the Nichimo kit as well :D )

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

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Or............

 

..........you could come over to the truly dark side and try the Yamato in card.  Halinski publishes one in 1:200 and offers brass barrels and PE details (five sheets).  Digital Navy publishes one in 1:250.

 

Yeah, I know -- not the advice you were looking for. :rolleyes:

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
- Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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You do pose a very valid point Chris,having just seen Gen-D's Halinski build on the paper modelers forum,I am left gasping in wonderment and disbelief :wub:  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o .

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

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Hi folks, and very many thanks for the very useful feedback.

 

Based on Nigel's advice I will let his kit go through to the keeper - I'm glad I asked :)

 

Nothing wrong with plastic at all I must agree as it offers some great detail especially for the 'steel navy' ships.

 

Chris, many thanks for the pointer to card - I will follow that option up.

 

Thanks again to all

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Hello again all - the lure of plastic (well resin anyway) finally got to me and I have plunged into the deep end.

 

I have purchased the OzMods 1:350 resin kit of HMAS Vampire II (Daring Class destroyer) in which I served for several years (1973-76).  At least she has been preserved as a Museum piece by the Australian Heritage Fleet (Sydney).

 

For a picture please see: http://www.navy.gov.au/hmas-vampire-ii

 

I wish to detail-up this kit and I am looking for some pointers to aftermarket detailing such as photoetch and gun barrel/turret products for the ship.  She was fitted with three dual gun 4.5" QF turrets (QF 4.5-inch Mk I – V), 2 x single 40mm bofors and 2 x twin 40mm bofors.  When she fired a broadside, you knew all about it :)

 

I am building her as fitted post-moderisation but before conversion to the training role so she will also have the triple barrel 'Limbo" ASW mortars aft.  I am aiming to paint her as she was during the period I served in her when a lot of her time was spent showing the flag in SE Asia - so a lot of her fiddly-work was painted to make her look the "ants pants" - detail such as bollards and fairleads were painted white (grey again when we returned to Australia.

 

Some of the detail I am looking for are the various davits, boat falls, antennae (DF etc), ship's lighting etc.  Many of these will be the same as fitted to contemporary Britsh designed ships of the era (1950-1970).

 

If anyone could please identify potential sources for these aftermarket products / Detail-up kits I would greatly appreciate it.

 

regards

 

Pat

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If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Hi Pat

 

Unfortunately the only place that does type 45 specific stuff is White Ensign Models,or did as they were closing down.However you may find more luck looking at weapon types etc .Here is a starter link for the gun barrels commonly available although this isn't an exhaustive list.Click on the homepage and you will have a mass of information at your fingertips.This is one of THE forums for plastic and resin ship models.I would imagine some other manufacturers produce items for the type 45 as Trumpeter produce a kit of this vessel,so there is a chance some of the Chinese photo etch companies produce something,e.g. Lionroar.

 

http://www.steelnavy.com/ReviewsOrdnance.htm

 

 

Kind Regards

 

Nigel

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Currently working on Royal Caroline

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Thanks for the pointer Nigel; I was aware of this site and that White Ensign has shut its doors but I will have to have a better search of LionRoar etc.  Of note, it is not the latest Darings (Type 45) I am after but rather the post-WWII Darings (updates of the old Battle Class).

 

I don't know where I am going to find these bits :)  I note L'Arnel have some stuff but their descriptions are poor so I don't know exactly what they offer and they don't have PayPal facilities.

 

Chris; for a while there I thought I was the proverbial jinx - every lugger I served in payed off (After Vampire I posted to Duchess, then Yarra, then the Melbourne ...)  I finally made it to the Teflon navy with Darwin :)

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited by BANYAN

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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  • 1 month later...

hi, everyone, I plan to start dealing with model to add to my ship collection, so I am looking for an appropriate glue model, unfortunatelly I bought a great number of different glue trademarks, but I was not sattisfied with the result, may be some more experiensed members will be able to advise me worthy glue trademark, you can see that huge number of tiny details which contains this very model, so I need a professional one, I will be really thankfull for all you recommendations!

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Hi Alex,

 

If I understand your question correctly, you are asking for recommendations for the type of glue to use.  As this is in a resin kit thread, I assume also for resin models?

 

From the research I have done so far (please note this is my first resin build also) I believe CA and two-part epoxy are best (any brands).  For gluing large parts I intend to use a 5 minute two-part epoxy after I have created some alignment pins and mating holes prior to setting it up (to reduce the 'fiddle time' required).  Have a look at this article for some ideas:  http://www.modelwarships.com/features/how-to/resin/resin-howto.html

 

For plastic/styrene I believe you need one of the specialist glues that actually dissolves and 'plastic-welds' the parts.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited by BANYAN

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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G-Day Banyan.

 

Have you tried ScaleWarship models, they just may have some of what your looking for.

 

Type in ScaleWarship  models and take a peek.

 

'Well its another option', might be a dead horse but worth a try.

 

Foxy :piratebo5:

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Thanks Foxy.  I have pretty well found most of what I need now (just some decals which is well underway).  I opted for some 3D printed replacement parts and some PE to provide detail.  Scale Warships has some great stuff but unfortunately for me, mostly at the wrong scale I am working with.  Appreciate the pointer though.

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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