robert22564 Posted April 20, 2015 Author #151 Posted April 20, 2015 May be worth considering getting the rudder plated to complete all the coppering Good point Glenn, I'll do just that. Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Sjors Posted April 20, 2015 #152 Posted April 20, 2015 Very nice work with the copper Robert ! I have also put copper plates on the rudder but not place the rudder. I'm afraid that I hit it of all the time...... Sjors robert22564 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
robert22564 Posted April 20, 2015 Author #153 Posted April 20, 2015 Thanks Sjors, I'm starting to ponder now whether to copper leaf or not, something in side of me is saying leave it alone and let it tarnish naturally. You can see in one of the pictures the original pyramid from where I started has already tarnished beautifully. Sjors 1 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Shipyard sid Posted April 20, 2015 #154 Posted April 20, 2015 Greetings Robert Well that's got the tiles sorted, and all looks really good. I followed a few of the others and polished the tiles with brasso, then added two coats of varnish. But a couple of years on the shine has totally dulled off, and to be honest I think it looks a lot better dull. Well done Robert, keep enjoying it...DAVID robert22564 1 Quote
robert22564 Posted April 25, 2015 Author #155 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) A quick update: I've made a temporary base to sit the ship on, I need to protect the copper plates from being caught while they naturally tarnish. The first coat of yellow ochre has been applied to the inner bulwarks and the deck has now been varnished with a matt coat. Now will be a couple of weeks of cleaning her up repainting areas that got disturbed a repainting some of the gunport linings, after that it'll be all hands on deck working on the cannons. The grating assemblies are only dry fitted at this stage. Edited April 25, 2015 by robert22564 Sjors, Glenn-UK, mort stoll and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Shipyard sid Posted April 25, 2015 #156 Posted April 25, 2015 Greetings Robert It's looking really good. Yep excellent progress and you are certainly moving along. Good luck withe cannons, and keep up the good work and enjoy it. Keep an eye on those cannon balls.. DAVID Quote
robert22564 Posted April 25, 2015 Author #157 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Greetings Robert It's looking really good. Yep excellent progress and you are certainly moving along. Good luck withe cannons, and keep up the good work and enjoy it. Keep an eye on those cannon balls.. DAVID Took your advice David and gave them 2 coats of matt varnish they're not going anywhere Edited April 25, 2015 by robert22564 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Sjors Posted April 26, 2015 #158 Posted April 26, 2015 Just beautiful Robert !!!!! Sjors robert22564 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
mdkboggle Posted April 26, 2015 #159 Posted April 26, 2015 Looks good Robert You must be pleased with it so far and now it looks like a ship sitting there. well done sir. Tim robert22564 1 Quote HMS Victory by mdkboggle - Caldercraft
robert22564 Posted April 26, 2015 Author #160 Posted April 26, 2015 Need a little advice please. As you all know I've been playing with these cannons, the manual says use part (480) but these seem tiny, what's been your experience with rigging them? I noticed in Gils log he's used the eyelets supplied in the packet which are bigger. I do not like part (501) so I'll be ordering the Mantua ones from CMB. Sjors 1 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Shipyard sid Posted April 26, 2015 #161 Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) Hello Robert I think I did mention the cannon rigging earlier in a PM, but not sure as I have cleared my messages. You can paint the eyelets and feed them In sequence onto the rigging thread and also include part c83506 on the thread for the breaching ring. ( I think that's what they call it) it's a simple process as all you need to do is pre drill the holes for small eyelet to fit in the side of the carriage, and then locate the eyelets already threaded into the hole with a dot of ca at the hole. It makes it simple. I know you don't want to use those eyelet, But there is no prob with them when they are threaded. You could thread a few up and see how it would work out. Harden the end of the thread with ca and snip it an angle to make the threading easy. Anyway good luck with the rigging. DAVID Edited April 26, 2015 by Shipyard sid robert22564 1 Quote
Glenn-UK Posted April 26, 2015 #162 Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) I used the model supplied eyelets for the bulwark eyelets, the cannon decorative eyelets and fixing rigging blocks to the deck. I used a larger eyelet CMB 83506 for the breaching ring cae'd to each rigged cannon. I then used a some left over eyelets similar to the CMB 83500 for the larger eyelets on each side of the cannon where the breaching thread feeds through. I only did this on the quarter deck cannons. For the upper gun deck I simply used the kit supplied eyelets for the cannon assembly and 83506 for the breach ring Edited April 26, 2015 by Glennard robert22564 and Shipyard sid 2 Quote Glenn (UK)
robert22564 Posted April 27, 2015 Author #163 Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Hello Robert I think I did mention the cannon rigging earlier in a PM, but not sure as I have cleared my messages. You can paint the eyelets and feed them In sequence onto the rigging thread and also include part c83506 on the thread for the breaching ring. ( I think that's what they call it) it's a simple process as all you need to do is pre drill the holes for small eyelet to fit in the side of the carriage, and then locate the eyelets already threaded into the hole with a dot of ca at the hole. It makes it simple. I know you don't want to use those eyelet, But there is no prob with them when they are threaded. You could thread a few up and see how it would work out. Harden the end of the thread with ca and snip it an angle to make the threading easy. Anyway good luck with the rigging. DAVID Yes you did send me a PM David, I'm just getting a little confused with these "C" Numbers which I now believe is an aftermarket part from Cornwall Model Boats......Correct? And it seems the way you've done them makes sense too, I'll do mine the same way thanks David. Edited April 27, 2015 by robert22564 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
robert22564 Posted April 27, 2015 Author #164 Posted April 27, 2015 I used the model supplied eyelets for the bulwark eyelets, the cannon decorative eyelets and fixing rigging blocks to the deck. I used a larger eyelet CMB 83506 for the breaching ring cae'd to each rigged cannon. I then used a some left over eyelets similar to the CMB 83500 for the larger eyelets on each side of the cannon where the breaching thread feeds through. I only did this on the quarter deck cannons. For the upper gun deck I simply used the kit supplied eyelets for the cannon assembly and 83506 for the breach ring Thanks Glenn, I'm looking at alternatives now Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Shipyard sid Posted April 27, 2015 #165 Posted April 27, 2015 Greetings Robert The eyelets are CMB83506 for the breaching rings as Glenn mentioned. And you will be ok with the small ones that you don't like for around the carriage, as once they are fed onto the thread they are very easy to fit. I would order 3 packs of CMB83506 if you decide to use use them, as you will prob use them as an alternative for staunchings later. Have a look at the rail around the waist on my ship or the stair ways, and you will see what I mean. Regards DAVID kier 1 Quote
robert22564 Posted April 27, 2015 Author #166 Posted April 27, 2015 Greetings Robert The eyelets are CMB83506 for the breaching rings as Glenn mentioned. And you will be ok with the small ones that you don't like for around the carriage, as once they are fed onto the thread they are very easy to fit. I would order 3 packs of CMB83506 if you decide to use use them, as you will prob use them as an alternative for staunchings later. Have a look at the rail around the waist on my ship or the stair ways, and you will see what I mean. Regards DAVID Your a diamond David, Thank you Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
robert22564 Posted April 29, 2015 Author #167 Posted April 29, 2015 Lesson for oneself.......when laying out a bunch of little rings, don't cough, goodbye little rings Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
mdkboggle Posted April 29, 2015 #168 Posted April 29, 2015 The carpet monster strikes. Have you got more? Tim Quote HMS Victory by mdkboggle - Caldercraft
robert22564 Posted April 29, 2015 Author #169 Posted April 29, 2015 The carpet monster strikes. Have you got more? Tim A trial pack from CMB, I still have a couple to trial Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
robert22564 Posted May 1, 2015 Author #170 Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) I've decided on a way forward with my Cannons, this is the template: I'm using the rings from part no.42844 as the breach ring. I'm also using the part no.36750 as the bridge. I've used cocktail sticks to make false axles just to raise the cannons a couple of millimeters. In my opinion it brings them into a better prospective and I was looking for the extra height. Edited May 2, 2015 by robert22564 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Sjors Posted May 2, 2015 #171 Posted May 2, 2015 Nice Robert, Are you painting the carriages ????? And if so, they has to be yellow....... Sjors Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
robert22564 Posted May 3, 2015 Author #172 Posted May 3, 2015 Lol.........Sjors, the cannons are painted, Caldercrafts yellow ochre. clearway, surferzob and Harvey 3 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Sjors Posted May 3, 2015 #173 Posted May 3, 2015 Robert, The cannons are black and the carriages are yellow....... I need a magnifier....how can I missed that !!! Shame on me !!! Sjors robert22564 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Shipyard sid Posted May 3, 2015 #174 Posted May 3, 2015 Hello Robert Still buzzing along merrily well done. How many cannons are you rigging ???? Or have I missed that???? I think Sjors is colour blind, and I also think he is a bus driver. Wouldn't trust him at traffic lights. DAVID robert22564 1 Quote
robert22564 Posted May 3, 2015 Author #175 Posted May 3, 2015 Hello Robert Still buzzing along merrily well done. How many cannons are you rigging ???? Or have I missed that???? I think Sjors is colour blind, and I also think he is a bus driver. Wouldn't trust him at traffic lights. DAVID Hello David, I've decided to rig 12 Cannons, the ones shown are not yet complete and are just put there for the picture. Shipyard sid 1 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Sjors Posted May 4, 2015 #176 Posted May 4, 2015 Hello Robert Still buzzing along merrily well done. How many cannons are you rigging ???? Or have I missed that???? I think Sjors is colour blind, and I also think he is a bus driver. Wouldn't trust him at traffic lights. DAVID David, I'm sorry to tell you but I'm not color blind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I was so then I was not driving a bus !!!!!!!!!!!!!! When you look at the pictures, it looks if they are not painted. When Robert told me so I have take another look and when I magnify the picture, I could see it ! Not before. Robert, Show me the progress at the rigged cannons... Sjors Shipyard sid 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
robert22564 Posted June 28, 2015 Author #177 Posted June 28, 2015 Well...............the chores did eventually catch up with me but I'm back in the workshop and the fun will continue. As you can see the cannons are all complete and I have six left to rig and fix to the ship. mort stoll, maddog33, Philg88 and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Shipyard sid Posted June 28, 2015 #178 Posted June 28, 2015 Hello Robert Well done. The work on the cannon rigging is wonderful, and the deck itself really stands out with the cannons in place. I surmise you are going to add the block and tackles later. The excellent standard continues, keep enjoying it ....DAVID robert22564 and maddog33 2 Quote
robert22564 Posted September 19, 2015 Author #179 Posted September 19, 2015 Still here guys, just been enjoying the summer so haven't had much time to get in the workshop, can see myself back very soon Philg88 1 Quote Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
surferzob Posted November 14, 2015 #180 Posted November 14, 2015 Hi Robert, I just found this great building thread of the Victory. I was wondering wich technique you use for getting the black lines between the deck planking. Do you just colour the edges of the planks with permanent black pen? I just got a caldercraft Victory partially built, exactly at the sale stage as yours. Not sure though if I will continue building it now or later as I do have some other projects. I really like your building thread. Best regards Michel. Shipyard sid and robert22564 2 Quote
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