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Well here we go - after a long hiatus (and a half dozen or so planes, trains, & automobiles) I'm back in the shipyard with the HMS Pegasus. I won't spend any time on the history, etc - since Victory's Pegasus is pretty prominent throughout the forum. However, I will add a little background why she's my current project. I have four adult children (3 girls and boy) and three ships to go around. So I let the youngest pick out what she she wanted to be built for her. Nice choice kiddo. As with my previous builds, I tend to mix somewhere between 70% accuracy and 30% artistic licensed - which will be the case with the Pegasus as well. Meanwhile, I'll be leaning pretty heavily on Blue Ensign's build (which I believe sets a benchmark for Pegasus..es... Pegasi? in terms of accuracy) as well as Danny Vadas' spectacular work on the Vulture. As always - I thank you all in advance for your encouragement and support. It's good to be back. Here's the typical start to the build. I've gone ahead and added the rabbet even though the plans say it's unnecessary. As I've perused other builds, it looks like it's probably going to come in handy.
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Today I was supposed to go to work but it was raining, so I decided to do a kit opening page for my new log, the Pegasus. The contents of the kit look really good, as I put things away , and get ready to build. My keel is made of plywood, not mdf. Must be an older kit, I assume. I dont know much about the Pegasus, but she sank in Canada in 1777, a little over a year after she was launched. So putting things away, the keel fell out of the box, lol, so I decided to make the temporary stand, and dry fit everything. It went together really well. It does come with a lot of plans and books of understandable instructions. I dry fitted all the bulkheads and got all the keel parts ready. So tomorrow, I will start glueing and beveling the bulkheads, and also the four pairs of plank termination patterns. Then I will see what I need to do next. It is so helpful to know that if I run into problems, this is the place to be to get all the help I need here. Thanks so much for watching. Take care my friends. Bob M.
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Hello, In the continuing search for my next project I have been looking at two similar offerings in the Amati Victory class of kits: HMS Pegasus and HMS Fly. The designer, Chris Watton, has received fine reviews, I'm told. On the surface, the two models appear to be very alike. Would those of you who have info agree? There are only superficial differences that I can see in the website pictures of these two ships. Are there material, or major, differences in the builds? How extensive are the instructions? Are the plans complete, well organized and clearly drawn? I've recently completed USS Constitution with which I'm very happy and proud. Also, a Mayflower done in mahogany that looks great, according to biased grandchildren, and a scratch-built Viking Drakkar using Amati plans (they were OK only) that's going to an office in Northern Virginia. Bottom line is, I believe either model would be very doable. Finally, I've noted that Bob Hunt has a practicum on the Pegasus/Fly. I've done a few of his practicums in the past. Any remarks about this practicum? Many thanks to all who may offer ideas, impressions, opinions, assistance of any kind. Chris Miller
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Hi What to say about this high end kit..... They do not come any better or then again, more expencive. Building this kit makes one wonder why scratch has not been an option. Then again without building this kit, scratch would not have been an option for me........just saying Rather than trying to rebuild my buildlog trying to recooperate any disscussions on the way I will repost as many pictures as I can and hopfully questions will follow bringing this log along with others of the same kit to life. Here we go.
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Hi guys, I need some help from our Swan Class experts as well as our other members familiar with David Antscherl's TFFM series of books. I've been reviewing the section on Fore and Main-Mast partners on the gun- /upper deck (TFFM Vol II, pp 61-63) and I'm interested in adding the exposed portions of these mast partners (i.e. the areas protruding above the deck planking) to my Pegasus kit. Below is the NMM upper deck plan of Pegasus showing the main mast partner encircled in red: Based on this, as well as the TFFM plans, I drew my four interpretations of this particular component: Drawing A shows the chocks (letters A to F) slightly higher than the deck planking and the mast wedges (G) slightly higher than the chocks and octagonal in shape: Drawing B has the same arrangement as A, except for the circular shaped mast wedges: Drawing C is similar to A, but includes the carlings (H and I) on each side among the components above the deck planking: Drawing D is similar to C, except for the circular shaped mast wedges: I apologize in advance for the crude, ill-proportioned nature of my drawings, I think my 2 year old makes better shapes than me May I know if which of these 4 drawings is the most appropriate for Pegasus? Personally, I am leaning towards B since most of the scratchbuilt Swan Class ships I've seen show the carlings H and I to be lower/below the deck planking and both TFFM and Goodwin's "Construction and Fitting..." book state that the octagonal shaped opening becomes rounded upon opening out or finishing of the mast partner. However, I am curious as to why the NMM plan shows an octagonal shaped opening for the mast wedge. Is this the finished shape of the mast wedge or did the plan intend to show how it looked like prior to opening out/finishing, hence the octagonal shape? Thanks in advance for the help guys.
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Hi to all First of all, a big thanks to the Admin and Moderators for their efforts in upgrading this site, keep up the good work guys I've been working on this kit, which I fondly named "Peggy-Sue", for more than a year now, squeezing in what little model-building time I have after work and family responsibilities. The kit will build into an excellent ship right out of the box, but I decided that I would add some modifications to make it as historically accurate as my skills would allow. To do these, I will be using the excellent TFFM books by David Antscherl, the original NMM draught of HMS Pegasus and some pictures of contemporary models/paintings. I also read up on a couple of Ship Modelling books to improve my knowledge on these magnificent vessels: Going back to Pegasus, the kit has been a fun project so far, materials are of very nice quality and fit of the parts is top-notch. I'm a bit lazy to re-write my whole log so will just summarize all that I have done. I started with the usual set of bulkheads fitted to the keel as seen below: This was followed by the following events, occurred more or less in chronological order: -applied gunport patterns and pricked myself with the nails followed by a lot of foul words -applied first planking basically violating every planking rule known to men -reduced the briddle port size to TFFM dimensions and moved it further forward. -applied second planking, which looked like it had been done by my 2 year-old kid -removed the bulkhead extensions, made some false frames using some scrap wood attached inside the bulwarks to thicken it (I hope to later plank over these false frames, attach some FC and QD deck beams and hanging knees to replace the kit provided parts) -my original second planking was simply unacceptable so I decided to remove the stem and keel for re-planking, resulting to irreparable damage to these parts.... THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY EVEN MORE FOUL WORDS! -bought the HMS Fly and donated her keel to Pegasus to allow re-planking... resulting to foul words from the Admiral for the added expense -
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