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What is the general opinions regards painting the Victory, or leaving her the natural wood state. Especially when the wood shows no gaps to be filled. I'm torn what to do
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I am at a loss on this subject, up until This Monday I was painting it but told the wife I was staying natural just last nights, honestly.. I was initially sticking to painted but that said I could have just thrown it together and wood fillered the problems up and painted over them. I don't know what to do at the moment painting hides a lot of effort. I haven't investigated the colour direction yet I.e what paint to use. Any ones input on this would be much appreciated, for example if you saw it completed in wood, would your initial reaction be it should be painted. -
I have started installing the main guard rails and wales and have stuck with the hard to bend Manzonia, well to be honest its hard to do anything with this wood, even sanding it. I will perservere.
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Yes really my first attempt, the bow deck has since been repaired, if you look at the earlier picture of the build site you will notice a red Relax sign perched on the light. This sign decided to jump off directly on to the deck. Relax, ironic really.
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This is what happens when your ship receives a light canon shot on the deck.
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A little more work this week, Stem fitted also sternpost followed by the false keel. Transom stern also fitted, quarter gallery also started but I have changed the blue card which has window frames drawn on with a black pen, I'm going black with wooden frames installed.
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Thank you for the compliment, having seen the quality you create I'll take that any day. Builders like you push the rest of us
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Latest images, close up of Bulwarks all capped and wow this took far longer then I had anticipated. Plus a few other close ups.
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I have finally finished the capping of my bulwarks, this job took so much longer than anticipated, took some super close ups
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Hey thanks for the compliments and looking at your builds they are compliments indeed, yes my first ever build of a ship.
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Total planks used on my hull as a guide for you was, below the last two light Ayous strips 21 x 6 mm x 2 mm on each side and about 5 more each side for packing any gaps, the kit provides 56 strips. Some will snap due to the grain direction and also due to grain be a nightmare to plane and also snap. ( normally when you have spent a while getting it perfect) I did use the veneer on my last 5 strips, I veneered the hull frames first and added the 1.5 mm strips to it when dry. this was because the strips should have been 2 mm but the quality control staff sent me 1.5. I did buy 12 extra strip and guess what, the shop only had 1.5 mm. read my log regards other issues I have had so you can avoid some problems Manzonia strips do not like doing as there told, Like a petulant teenager. ( my log will reveal all ) Hope all is ok
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Well thanks everyone, really this site is the best, thanks everyone for your feedback, I think I have achieved the impossible and managed my bends with the Manzonia strips. I finally bent them dry with the plank bender (crimp type) and a lot of patience.
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MTDORAMIKE This is my first ever build of a ship, I looked and did my homework regards the kit to cut my teeth on, If money was no object I would have gone Caldercraft all the way but it's a lot of cash for a first time build. Also instructions were the best on the Constructo, that said you do have to read ahead of your actual work to get the idea, they sort of think we're all experienced in this hobby. ( reading your comment you have built many). Manual is all colour as I'm sure your past constructo kits were. I did need to surf the net to find out what Ayous wood was / looked like as it's not marked up, just bundeled with a band around. I actually had to do this with all the timber due to not not knowing what they looked like, Oh the ply hull main section as with most kits was bent, I used the cannon mount timber to clamp it straight, the captains cabin fairing ply was marked up back to front on the paper page supplied. The planking went really well, took a while but went well, Contstructo do supply 0.5 mm x 6 mm veneer strips for those who struggle planking plus they are all the same shade. (I have no idea if this is the norm with there kits). I started using the brass pins in the kit which require a pre-drilling of the plank to prevent splitting. I then used the coloured pins in the pictures previous, they clamp really well and speed up the process by saving pre-drilling. Oh also the grates main spar should run fore to aft but the plans show port to starboard on the lower deck but upper deck the correct way. Mine are as the plan but only the purest will see it, still I may put mine right way soon. Wow I'm going on here but hope I've helped, get this kit and at sub £200 you wont be disappointed
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Anyone building this kit, treat yourself to some strips of Walnut and ditch the Manzonia, the images are of the Manzonia bent, but I wastred a lot of strips trying to achieve this. The wood grain runs similar to what I can only describe as ply, and trying to bend so tight just split, split, splits and more splits before I got it to bend. Hot water, Steam, you name it I tried it. I will be replacing the lost strips with Walnut which appears the same. Colour matching of the same timber in the kit, don't get me started with that one. I may paint her but still haven't decided so the wood has to at least be reasonably close match Oh, just to let you know if your feeling brave to attempt it, well lets face it you have the Manzonia timber, use a plank bender, the pliers type that just creases the back with a blade and be careful, you need a lot of pressure but to much and watch it fly past your shoulder. Crimp as close together as possible mm even and bend as you crimp, they will behave eventually.
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Cheers guys, Ha ha contructo can't - bend - the -wood club, really would prefer my membership be cancelled. The other issue with that timber is colour shades
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Has any one tried to bend Manzonia timber 6mm x 2mm, I need to bend it quite sharp for capping my bulwarks, Constructo Victory. Hot water doesn't work as its very dense, it is listed on the web as steam bendable. Has anyone achieved this without it splintering
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Been browsing over you work, beautifully built mate
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finished planking rear quarters and started the bulwarks.
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After 31 days and 61.5 hours I have finally planked the hull.
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Thank you Rich, I've almost finished the planking process but also intend to add copper too
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Be careful with your Sapelly planks for the hull. Do a stock check and ensure they are all the same thickness of 2 mm. I have 6 X 1.5 mm mixed in, the other thing is to look for cross grain, these will snap rather than allow you to plain them, I lost a few to this phenomenon. I have decided as I only have 6 planks to finish the hull that I'm going to use some vaneer as packing to acheivce the 2 mm required. I will message you the quantity of planks I have used to give you an idea how many by our likely to use.
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