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Still working on the bow trims, new wood received from Cornwall Model Boats will certainly help, Ayous and it unwilling bending wasted a lot of of strips
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Progress is slow on the planking but always worth the time, remember to take some off the inside top and bottom edge of the planks when on the curved sections this will enable the planks to sit close closing the gap a curve would cause. This is not quite as important if painting as filla will cover any gaps not to mention copper bottom if your going down that route
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Ha Ha Dave, As long as I'm putting correct pictures on you mean.
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John your a star Thank you, your spot on. I read this at 0020 UK time changed them immediately
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I have took a little time out to reflect on whats been done and the time taken to get this far, I started on 01/04/14 that's right April fools. My build log states I have so far put in 351 1/4 Hours into her and a long way yet to go. Plus a few pictures of where i'm at todate
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They look the part, and remember they are additions to the kit and make it more accurate. I say that look at my page re the pillars, appears were short on those too, we would'nt be able to squeeze 8 in
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Interesting, that's one to look out for, is there a predicted release date.
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Looking at your image of the kit, Yours has 8 pillars between the quarter galleries my kit only has 6. Oh nooooo it gets worse. I will scratch build the missing hatches, thankyou for the picture Kevin. I should have bought the beautiful Caldercraft version but as a newbie I had no idea I could even build a ship and its a lot of cash to cut my teeth with..... future for sure
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I noticed they have done this to put a gap between the pillars and the doors but I will have to compromise this as the gap of 14mm on the rail is so narrow to fit the 5 brass no 183 eye bolts shown on the plan
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I have been busy this weekend throwing a lot of hours in. The two posts either side ( Riding bits ) had to be removed and re-made, anyone building this kit, please save time and wood doing a dry fit first, the instructions just tell you to make them 20 mm long with a taper at the top and bottom, ok ! how deep should the top taper actually be, well that would be a little to much info to give us. My first attempt was to deep and ended up below the rail I fitted later ( tried to fit) If your wood diameter is the same as the instructions a 4mm drop on the taper will see you good. Ok thats sorted upwards and onwards. No sorry, another error. I have come to the conclusion our Spanish designers of this kit did'nt bother to buy a plane ticket and study the real ship in Portsmouth. Why! Look at the curved sections of the bow handrail where the canons are to protrude, the real ship has them more central / inside the gap between the quater galleries, Contructo has them part over the galleries, I have matched the real ship but to do this the rails needed to be 22mm long (outside the curves) funny thing is the kit says there 22mm long. Have Constucto not followed there own plans, plans are 16.3mm,,,, mmmmm maybe. I have put pictures on which I hope clears up what im trying to point out.... ok I, like many are not building a museum piece but come on lets get some basics correct , oh look at the real ship in the snap shot and its got a post near the riding bits which the kit seams to have forgot to fit or even ilustrate...
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Looking good mate, I'm going to pass on a few problems in a bid to prevent you suffering the same and like me wasting wood and time making parts due to bad ilustrations / manual. I have come to the conclusion that Constructo never actually sent anyone to the uk to study the real ship before they made this kit and thought that will do, close enough. First the image posted shows the position of the curved rail (128) for the canons to protude, these are to be 22mm from the sides, per instructions but doing this puts them in the right position of the real ship but the diagram in the manual shows them far further out from the centre (pic 70) clearly they never followed there own instructions. Other issue so far - Pic 69 item 126.... ok, they tell us the measurement for this which is 20mm long, they also show it shaped on the top and a slight taper to the bottom, Please fit the rail post 127 (pic 70) before you make these, then dry fit the rail 130 (pic 71) and then cut the shaped top to be just above the rail. I didnt have the right info and did it as per manual and...... you guessed the post needed taking off as mine ended up to low / below the rail. I have sent picture 78 which shows where they want us to fit the curved rail which is half over the quarter galleries, this is not correct on the real ship, they are further to the centre of the deck.
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Artesiana Latina HMS Victory 1:84 scale kit (REVIEW)
Paul0367 replied to mtdoramike's topic in Wood ship model kits
All gone quiet here, they say no news is good news and with that kit you sure need some of the latter. Hope alls well -
Days, weeks, months and looking like years are going to be eaten up on the build, beauty about it you do it at your pace when in the right mood. Hey looking fantastic by the way.
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Anchor davits and some trims fitted, oh and ive started on the figurehead
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Ha Ha, my brother said the same thing after seeing these images first then the ship. The bow section is quite tricky ( whilst were talking small), its a focal point of the vessel and has a lot of repetitive parts which all have to be identical width / hight. Wait until you bend the brass colour wire, oh you will love it, not
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I have the contructo kit so if you need any lengths and diameters let me know
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I have put the rebuild of the rear windows on hold whilst I continue with the bow section, really I actually thought this would be an easy stage but should know better, unlike some kits the pillars have to be made from stock and the wire is tough to bend so small and getting them all even is a nightmare. The kit shows the curved galleries level wih the deck but the real ship has them over the the edge of the deck, this is what I have done and will worry about the implications of doing this later in the build ( The last two picture are an attempt to shows this ).
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Should I, shouldn't I, well I should / have to,, tearing away at previous work seams to be common place for me at the moment. Looking at pictures of her in Portsmouth its clear the upper side windows ain't little boxes floating between the trims, there far larger and mine need to be a little closer to her. That said strip a strip down/chop and rebuild is requiredrequired but the way its going they will all be ripped out
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Hi , in reply to your message, I used paper for the back with black marker and put the frames on. If you look close the wood below is also raised using the supplied vaneer strips, I just shanferred the edges, amd added a little trim between. Oh and don't do what I did, that's instal the poop deck first and then decide to put in windows, then spend hours squeezing throught the gap between both decks.
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I have found your build and I will for sure be popping back every time I post to see your progress. Enjoy her. Looking excellent
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Cheers guys I have moved upfront to the bow decoration, this is a crucial part as it is quite a focal point of the whole ship and has to be spot on. Lots of paper templates to get the shape and then back to bending wood that's constantly battling to stay straight.
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Well 34 1\4 hours over 28 days and I have finally got my rear section windows / frames and trims completed. This took so long due to being so repetitive and not something I can sit doing for long periods, not to mention tearing off all the previously installed frames and vaneer.
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That's not good at all, I have a few issues with possible shortfalls but that is because I add extra trim with wood from the kit to look as close as possible to the real ship. the kit doesn't allow for this not to mention losses due to snapping when trying a bend but having fittings missing is very annoying. Try Cornwall model boats site, OK in the UK but very good. I do hope you get sorted, especially as she is for your local libray .
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Hey thanks for the compliments Mike, the beautiful wood your refering to, would that be the cocktail sticks i'm using for my turnings. As for me doing it all again, I just had to, I couldn't leave it knowing it was all off line, I guess most people would probably never have noticed and I could have let it be but I just had to correct it. This just adds to the time but i'm in no rush, there was a point as I was hacking chunks out of the rear that I may be making a mistake but in the end its veneered wood so I just had to gently peel the vaneer and rematch the new, Oh and re do all the windows and surrounds. The progress is slow now due to all the big dramatic stuff being done, decking / planking etc. It appears that i'm a trail blazer on Model Ship Worlds site and that i'm the only Contructo kit Victory builder thats at this stage of build( that I can find) so I have no one to bounce off. I have been salavating over the topics of the Caldercraft version, the rear detailing is sublime and one day she will be a future venture after ive cut my teeth in this new hobby.
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