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_SalD_ got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
I couldn’t find too much information on what the boiler would look like so I took some artist liberties. From the drawings I knew its diameter and length, stack location and the stack height and diameter. I wasn’t sure about the number or location of the doors used to load the coal so I guessed at two.
I also took some liberties and added a pressure gauge and sight glass. I always made fun of the designers at work when they added nuts and bolts to pieces of equipment that would never be seen when you printed out the drawing but now I know why they did it, it's fun.
Boiler fit on the plans
Boiler in the ship
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_SalD_ got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Next I decided to work on the paddlewheels. I started with the crank arm with dimensions taken from the drawing. I also learnt that the length of the arm will be half of the stroke length. So with a stroke of 14’ the arm is 7 feet long.
The flanges for the paddlewheel arms were next. Followed by the shaft.
The buckets (paddles) on the paddlewheel are 8’-3” long by 2’-4” wide. There are 13 main buckets and 13 intermediate buckets per wheel. The wheel was 29’-4” in diameter and rotated at a speed of 17rpm.
One question I had about the buckets is; are they made of one piece of wood 28” wide or of three planks 9 1/4” wide?
After making one set of the main and intermediate buckets it was very simple to array (copy) them 13 times around the center hub. Iron bands were added as shown on the drawings.
After one paddlewheel was completed it was just a matter of copying it to the other side for the complete paddlewheel assemble
I like this view.
wheels set in the hull
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_SalD_ got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
I don’t know if this next step is 100% correct but for easy of installing the main deck beams I thought I would run them across the top of the bulwarks and hull in one piece. The main deck floor beams are 4”x 6” (1/16”x3/32”) and are equally spaced at 2’-4 ½”. These were made from extruded shapes placed on top of the hull and bulkheads.
An 8”x10” (1/8”x5/32”) guard timber was placed around the perimeter of the deck beams and faced with a 2” x 10” (1/32”x5/32”) plank. Wales were added at the top of the hull following the sheer and deck beam braces were added
The deck itself was constructed using a surface command and given a thickness of 2”. For clarity the decking won’t be shown to often.
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_SalD_ reacted to Mirabell61 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
Update...
here 2 of the 6 swan-neck hydrants that go to the promenade-deck, just inside of the railing...
Made from anealed 2 mm brass wire, bent and solder-fitted with sleeve and flange..., they will be painted red
Nils
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_SalD_ reacted to xken in USS Constitution by xken - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76.8
Jon thanks again for help with reference photos, I continue to be impressed with the plans lack of final details on certain elements that would have been so easy to add.
Here is a sequence of details based upon your photos and I can only guess that the slip rings are for the sail. One other question you may be able to answer, I have seen in some images a second studding boom rigged to the main mast. Do you have any info on it?
After formed, the rings were final fitted on the boom with end being trimmed as needed and tightened on the boom for a slip fit.
I darkened the rings once final fitted due the scratch that would have happened with tool marks.
Here is an overview of the boom lashed in place.
Now to fiquire out my next move which may be the brass stanchions for the hatch covers.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from Elijah in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Yes, that's the plan, I figure it's easier to work out the kinks on the 3D model than the actual model.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from EJ_L in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Yes, that's the plan, I figure it's easier to work out the kinks on the 3D model than the actual model.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from mtaylor in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Yes, that's the plan, I figure it's easier to work out the kinks on the 3D model than the actual model.
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_SalD_ reacted to xken in USS Constitution by xken - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76.8
Thanks to Jon's great picture I was able to fabricate these two rear brackets for the studding boom. here is an in progress picture showing the main straps that were bent and soldered together and then drilled for rings and this picture shows the double ring being soldered in place. Once soldered together they were adjusted to mate to the hull, blackened and then glued in place.
This shows the rear bracket.
Here are a couple of overviews.
Now to add the tackle blocks to the cleat area and ends of the booms themselves before lashing them to the brackets. If anyone has any info or details of these blocks it would be appreciated.
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_SalD_ reacted to xken in USS Constitution by xken - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76.8
Michael, thank you for your kind comments. Yes we do live in a great location with mild weather year around. I have moved on to the studding sail booms and realized that I had to locate the anchor in place first.
In looking at how the anchor was rigged on the plans it seemed odd that all the weight was carried by the eyebolts. I then checked the above photo by zooming in and confirmed that there is indeed a support bracket that the anchor rested upon.
Next I tapered the studding booms and added the reinforcement rings and gooseneck hooks.
I then fabricated the first and second support brackets that are once in place will establish the boom location in order to fabricate the third bracket. Following is a sequence showing how I made them and will let the pictures speak for themselves.
Now on to making the third and a little more complicated brackets.
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_SalD_ reacted to JesseLee in Syren by JesseLee - FINISHED - Model Shipways - scale: 1:64
I got to thinking that before adding and rigging the carronades in place I would rather pre-do a lot of the deck work while they are out of the way. I can just picture damaging some of them trying to work on other stuff all over the deck. I figured I'd make everything, get holes drilled, etc. but not glue anything down until after the carronades are in place.
First thing is the mast holes. Made a paper template to get the right angle from the plans. Used that to make a crude wooden drill guide. Dilled the mast holes very slowly first by digging out a smaller hole with cutting tools then using drills working up in size and checking the angles frequently as I go. This will get it very close but also give me a little wiggle room later on when the masts are installed. Each mast hole had a separate guide built but I only took shots of one to show the process. Now I will move on to the gratings, and other deck fittings.
I know, how can I work around such clutter?!?! Don't know how I do it myself. Every time I clean it all up it ends up right back like this again. It just works for me. Part of my problem is a severe lack of space but I think it would still be like this no matter how much space I had.
Jesse
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_SalD_ reacted to JesseLee in Syren by JesseLee - FINISHED - Model Shipways - scale: 1:64
Thanks for all the feedback & the likes everyone.
Denis, the blocks are about 3mm long & about 4mm with the hook.
I looked in my few books I have to see these blocks. Because the hooks were rigged to the blocks I am now adding some line to the blocks to simulate this a little better.
Jesse
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_SalD_ got a reaction from WackoWolf in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Yes, that's the plan, I figure it's easier to work out the kinks on the 3D model than the actual model.
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_SalD_ reacted to ggrieco in Heroine 1838 by ggrieco - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 - Western River Steamboat as she appeared before hitting a snag in the Red River
Thanks Pat, Albert,Tom, Nils, and WackoWolf,
Sorry that I didn't get back here sooner. It has been a crazy week. In addition to the two Heroine models, I'm rushing to finish a model of the Serce Limani wreck for the Bodrum Museum of Underwater Archaeology. Heroine takes up more work days and Serce fills my nights and weekends. Hopefully, Serce will be completed soon and I'll finally have some free time again.
As for Heroine, this week I worked on the roof trusses. Kevin wanted 15 inches of crown to the Hurricane deck so it didn't leave me with much depth to work with. I decided to play it safe and go with something simple. We wanted a light structure so the spacing between trusses is a little large but, they used tongue and groove planking that would have distributed the load and added a little strength (as well as making it a little more watertight). The roof will be covered with tarred canvas.
The trusses haven't been fastened in place yet and are little out of alignment. Started working on the floor of the pilot house. The opening will be for a trap door to the cabin below. I left the longitudinal timber a little long for support. They will be cut off even with the forward edge of the corner pieces.
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_SalD_ reacted to Mirabell61 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
Thank you very much John,
your compliment is much appreciated, and I saw you were catching up with the build log, thanks for looking in.
Today I assembled one of those benches ( fiddely stuff I must say ! ), but I think its acceptable with a bit more routine it will do.... Trust Bill and Carl were right with their recommendation to avoid soldering (thanks again Bill and Carl) , The CA connection of parts is strong enough for this.
Also thanks to those for all the " likes"
Nils
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_SalD_ reacted to Landlocked123 in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Hi Sal,
I meant to ask when at the meeting, once you complete the CAD, are you going to build it with "sticks and bricks"?
Best,
John
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_SalD_ got a reaction from PeteB in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Next I decided to work on the paddlewheels. I started with the crank arm with dimensions taken from the drawing. I also learnt that the length of the arm will be half of the stroke length. So with a stroke of 14’ the arm is 7 feet long.
The flanges for the paddlewheel arms were next. Followed by the shaft.
The buckets (paddles) on the paddlewheel are 8’-3” long by 2’-4” wide. There are 13 main buckets and 13 intermediate buckets per wheel. The wheel was 29’-4” in diameter and rotated at a speed of 17rpm.
One question I had about the buckets is; are they made of one piece of wood 28” wide or of three planks 9 1/4” wide?
After making one set of the main and intermediate buckets it was very simple to array (copy) them 13 times around the center hub. Iron bands were added as shown on the drawings.
After one paddlewheel was completed it was just a matter of copying it to the other side for the complete paddlewheel assemble
I like this view.
wheels set in the hull
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_SalD_ got a reaction from mtaylor in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Thanks EJ, I was thinking about doing that but at the moment I don't know how. I'll need to do research on the subject.
Thanks Wayne, I think the boiler has one large relief valve that I'm working on now.
Thanks Nils and I agree with you in that although 3D design drawings are nice and you can show the client a pretty picture you can't really building anything from them. You still need simple 2D drawings showing plan views and elevations. Maybe I'm too old fashion and that's why it took me 30 years to learn 3D.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from WackoWolf in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Thanks EJ, I was thinking about doing that but at the moment I don't know how. I'll need to do research on the subject.
Thanks Wayne, I think the boiler has one large relief valve that I'm working on now.
Thanks Nils and I agree with you in that although 3D design drawings are nice and you can show the client a pretty picture you can't really building anything from them. You still need simple 2D drawings showing plan views and elevations. Maybe I'm too old fashion and that's why it took me 30 years to learn 3D.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from Jack12477 in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Thanks EJ, I was thinking about doing that but at the moment I don't know how. I'll need to do research on the subject.
Thanks Wayne, I think the boiler has one large relief valve that I'm working on now.
Thanks Nils and I agree with you in that although 3D design drawings are nice and you can show the client a pretty picture you can't really building anything from them. You still need simple 2D drawings showing plan views and elevations. Maybe I'm too old fashion and that's why it took me 30 years to learn 3D.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from EJ_L in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Thanks EJ, I was thinking about doing that but at the moment I don't know how. I'll need to do research on the subject.
Thanks Wayne, I think the boiler has one large relief valve that I'm working on now.
Thanks Nils and I agree with you in that although 3D design drawings are nice and you can show the client a pretty picture you can't really building anything from them. You still need simple 2D drawings showing plan views and elevations. Maybe I'm too old fashion and that's why it took me 30 years to learn 3D.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from Elijah in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Thanks EJ, I was thinking about doing that but at the moment I don't know how. I'll need to do research on the subject.
Thanks Wayne, I think the boiler has one large relief valve that I'm working on now.
Thanks Nils and I agree with you in that although 3D design drawings are nice and you can show the client a pretty picture you can't really building anything from them. You still need simple 2D drawings showing plan views and elevations. Maybe I'm too old fashion and that's why it took me 30 years to learn 3D.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from Mirabell61 in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Thanks EJ, I was thinking about doing that but at the moment I don't know how. I'll need to do research on the subject.
Thanks Wayne, I think the boiler has one large relief valve that I'm working on now.
Thanks Nils and I agree with you in that although 3D design drawings are nice and you can show the client a pretty picture you can't really building anything from them. You still need simple 2D drawings showing plan views and elevations. Maybe I'm too old fashion and that's why it took me 30 years to learn 3D.
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_SalD_ got a reaction from PeteB in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
I couldn’t find too much information on what the boiler would look like so I took some artist liberties. From the drawings I knew its diameter and length, stack location and the stack height and diameter. I wasn’t sure about the number or location of the doors used to load the coal so I guessed at two.
I also took some liberties and added a pressure gauge and sight glass. I always made fun of the designers at work when they added nuts and bolts to pieces of equipment that would never be seen when you printed out the drawing but now I know why they did it, it's fun.
Boiler fit on the plans
Boiler in the ship
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_SalD_ got a reaction from igorcap in 3-D Armenia by SalD – Hudson River Sidewheeler, 1847
Next I decided to work on the paddlewheels. I started with the crank arm with dimensions taken from the drawing. I also learnt that the length of the arm will be half of the stroke length. So with a stroke of 14’ the arm is 7 feet long.
The flanges for the paddlewheel arms were next. Followed by the shaft.
The buckets (paddles) on the paddlewheel are 8’-3” long by 2’-4” wide. There are 13 main buckets and 13 intermediate buckets per wheel. The wheel was 29’-4” in diameter and rotated at a speed of 17rpm.
One question I had about the buckets is; are they made of one piece of wood 28” wide or of three planks 9 1/4” wide?
After making one set of the main and intermediate buckets it was very simple to array (copy) them 13 times around the center hub. Iron bands were added as shown on the drawings.
After one paddlewheel was completed it was just a matter of copying it to the other side for the complete paddlewheel assemble
I like this view.
wheels set in the hull
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