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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Another step in my shipyard. Now the main deck is planked and the ship has its knee of the head. Also done: hawse holes and scuppers. Last work, the big bitt under the forecastle; I made it by carving a piece of walnut - real walnut wood, not tanganika or mansonia. Cheers Alex -
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
The wales are dark brown tainted. I’ve stained with wengè mordant- two hands. I have to correct my previuos message about ancient terms. I've found a precisation: - amante = each rope that is connected to the yard, to lift it; they were two (plural: amanti), coupled. So, you're right in your drawing. The term comes from ancient galleys - so was named the rope that raised and lowered the yard - riza (rizza) = rope destined to secure a mobile load. In your drawing, correct: the "rize" (2 - plural) are just hanging the yard and connected to the "amanti" - drizza = the running rigging that raises the yard. The term, properly, indicated the rope between the ramshead and the knighthead. Usually, the word "drizza" indicated both "amanti" and "drizza" (so specificated), all together. -
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
As said, Im not a sailorman so I've searched something. In modern naval Italian, the word "rizza" (noun very close to ancient italian "riza") is a rope destined to secure a mobile load, and usually equipped with a turnbuckle; and the word "drizza" (noun very close to "riza" too) is the halyard, wich is a specific - well identified - "rizza". In modern naval Italian "amantiglio" - plural: "amantigli" (noun very close to ancient "manti" and "amanti") is the running rigging that hangs a flagpole. In my opinion Bellabarba's "riza" is the halyard. And his "manti" (that's a plural noun) are the lower lifts. Little progress. Wales completed, with a little change of idea: the first wale is black, not red as previuos thought -
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thanks to you, Waldemar for the study. I'm thinking to something similar, without temporary splicing. I'm also still in doubt about the knighthead but in the end I tink to place it Another little step. Keel almost completed and temporary placed, aiming to the the wales -
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Now I’m fighting with the keel and wales. I hope to win soon, it’s hard! -
interesting model, Bob. A bit of patience and the shipyard will start Alex
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
at all, Waldemar. It's all on theme. It seems halyard ties should pass through the calcet, as shown in fig.17 of your message #67 -
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Very interesting. All this opens another question. If a single capstan is placed on the main deck, back the mainmast, the problem is: where are the riggings tied? We can lock them in rings on the deck, into blocks linked to those rings (I think this is more probable) or using a fife rail; in any way, it's difficult to imagine all those fittings on the main deck ... seeing the position of the mast, that's partially inserted into the halfdeck (for this, it's hollowed) and the mainmast's back area is under the halfdeck. All these fittings perhaps had to be on the upper halfdeck, unless they decided to place in the fore area of the main mast (but it would be very strange, with a capstan on the back) rings and blocks for the locking of the riggings. I'm not a seaman, and all this is free reasoning, so I join Wandemar in asking comments -
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Thanks for the info. I think all configurations you have shown were applied, depending on the tonnage (so by the weight of the yards) of the ship. In little northern cogs you could see even the tie linked directly to a very simple windlass. -
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I saw your photo of a sailor replica (post #65) so I have just offered myself as a part of the crew ! Alex (edit) it was a joke, of course😉
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Great work, Christos. I think it was impossible - at the time - to make all oars the same. So little differences add realism to the model. About the replica: if you need oarsmen, whistle to me. Cheers Alex
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
You've a PM, Steven! Thanks a lot for your help. Little progress in my work. Completed planking - it is currently only roughed and needs to be filed properly; as you see at the edge of the hull's shape, there are some inaccuracies. Next step, the placing of the wales (their position is marked by oversized light brown planks) and the keel (into the fissure) Cheers Alex -
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Thanks, Steven! Now I have something to read .... -
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
Thank you, very useful! My next model will probably be a Venetian cog. After all this training , no fear -
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Foremast replied to Foremast's topic in - Kit subjects built Up to and including 1500 AD
For sure. I’m trying to remember where I saw them. It seems to me in an old publication of Verlag Hinstorff- Rostock. It’s been a long time
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