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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    there is a bit more to the last I didn't add last night........I must have been in a hurry.   I didn't add this picture.

    here I did some sanding.......more is still needed.  the kit came with mahogany planking,  which I won't use.......I ordered some Obechi instead.  most of the sheets that the part are printed on is mahogany.  the deck platform is sheet mahogany,  printed with the details for the planking and fixtures.  this might be the reason for the problem I've been having.
        when I built the Nordkap,  I intended to plank the deck.  along with this,  I would have to create parts to overlay the margins along the bulwarks.  the deck platforms were of basswood......light colored wood where the printing showed up good enough to be seen using printer paper.  I traced the margins and cut them from 1/16 basswood strip.   logical,  since I planked the deck using 1.5 x 5 mm strip.  I never gave a though to thickness,  or an alternative to use thin strip instead.   here is a picture of the margins I made.
        
    not to confuse folks,  I will toss in a picture here and there of the Nordkap build to show the differences.  I keep thinking to myself that I really should redo the original log,  but I've likely forgotten so much and it would be quite an undertaking to do.......it was a huge log     I did a separate build log of her on Blogger....if your interested,  do a search for 'seymoregutz' and you should find it easily enough.
     
    getting back to the problem at hand........there could be other reasons why I was having a hard time in trying to trace the margins.   perhaps I was using a paper that wasn't as dense,  as what we have now.  I dunno..........I did have an idea........tracing paper.   I went to the local Wal Greens,  but they didn't have any.    I went to the local Wal Mart.......they had paper products strewn over four departments....and they didn't have any.   we asked some kid to help us,  and the 'lil bugger disappeared on us!   we ended up at the local Staples and bought the last pack of tracing paper they had.  


    as for the bow and the stern.......there won't be much to see of the bow,  as it's a boxed in cabin of sorts.   it's mainly for storage and the mechanism for the anchors.  the stern will be planked over,  since the aft cabin is eliminated and will be open.   there will be some major modification for the main cabin structure..........the upper decking will be gone as well.


    still more parts to be cut out too.....

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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    the next step here,  is to fit and install all of the deck beams.   following the numbers,  they were all cemented into place.

    two additional part were added to the stern,  once the beams were dry.   sanding was required to fit them into place.  the rest of the sanding can be done when it's time to level the frame for the false deck platforms.

    stringers were added to the frame.  at this time,  the bulkheads were checked and adjusted to the upper increments.........53 mm from center to center.

    a single stringer for the bow,  and two running down the sides in the slots provided.

    when dry,  the ends were trimmed........I could leave 'em......but I like a neat job      I did some sanding to level the deck frame surface....I still have a bit more to go.  besides,  I need to go on an errand before that happens      not much more to go anyway,  before I'm caught up to where I am with the project at this point.  see you in the morning   
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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    Thank you denis.
     
    OC.
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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    by the 24th of September,  almost all of the spacers were in place........the second of the two 50 mm spacers was being put into place.

    #6 was being cemented in place.........#5 was next.....a slow process.

    it wasn't to bad keeping the frame on an even keel.......I was using another part of the build slip to keep it perpendicular.   there!  I said it......Perpendicular..........upright!........not vertically challenged!      

    the rest will be added to the stern stem now.   #4 will sit in the notch at the beginning of the stem.  I cut another spacer to aide in holding it in place and give the bulkhead a better root.

    by the end of the day,  the rest were in place.   they required no special supports to be added.   looking down the barrel,  all of the bulkheads appear to be fairly straight.

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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    hello OC........this is the type of build slip that Billing Boats sells.  it's really not designed for the older kits,  but I used it anyway.   you may have noticed the one that I assembled the keel on.......that one is home made.   I used to make my own slips before I got the one I have now........one board that I have has three different slips on it.  it does make life easier  
     
    welcome aboard ⚓
     
    welcome to the log CDW   plenty of room  
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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    usually,  I'm pretty good with reading Billing's instructions....but I almost made a mistake here.   with the first kit,  I didn't assemble the hull frame.  this is how I got it back in 2010

    I brought home a skeleton!  pretty comical was the look on the admiral's face.   the diagram is a bit blurry.....

    the increments along the top is 53 mm from bulkhead center to center.   that is what I cut the spacers to.  this is also what the build slip would look like,  using the supplied chocks.   looking at the base of the slip,  is another bar with a different set of increments.......5 @ 48 mm,  2 @ 50 mm,  and 1 @ 48 mm.   these are the actual increments that I needed to use.   bulkhead #12 was cemented in place,  along with a spacer.   when #11 was cemented in place,  I became suspicious.   lining the rest of the spacers in their places,  I found that I could not fit them all.  good thing I realized this quickly!  

    #11 was removed,  along with the spacer that wasn't dry yet,  and cut down to 48 mm.   to remedy the spacer that was already in place and dry,  I merely measured and cut it to 48 mm,  removing the excess piece and cleaning up the mess.   #11 was cemented back in place,  along with the spacer that I had trimmed.   after that,  four of the others were trimmed to 48 mm,  and the last two were trimmed to 50 mm.  problem solved.

    my mistake.......I proudly own it      the spacers were arranged to mimic the order that they were to be used,  so I wouldn't forget that either.  this was allowed to dry and others were added in this sporadic time frame......this took a couple of days.

    this is where I was on the 21st of September
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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    I love your keel supports denis  - very well thought out, being able to move it along the length of the slipway is a great idea.
     
    OC.
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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    welcome to the log Channell and Elijah....I hope I don't disappoint  
     
    in this day and age Channell,  I would imagine there is a collector's market.  although,  plastic rules the roost because it holds up better to time...decals don't though      decals didn't for this one either....but that's OK,  I can try to make some.   wood does have a shelf life...it depends greatly how the kit is stored.  one of the deck halves has ripples,  so I would imagine that it was likely stored in a cellar.  the first kit came from an attic.....Harold assured me of it...all the sheets were reasonably flat.  I have a couple of plastic kits that I should put away,  but that would ruin the purpose of the kit.  the one thing that would add value to a wooden kit is rarity......if I had an actual kit of the Progress,  then I would be inclined to look at it's condition.   naaaaaa,  what fun would there be in that   
     
    thanks Elijah.......it will look better once I knock the ugly duckling out of it      that's the funny part of modeling.....most plastic models look OK while your building it,  they just look incomplete,  while a wooden kit looks disheveled until you put a finish on it....paint or clear sealer        I hope you enjoy the log......who knows,  it may entice you to bring out one of the old kits  
     
    welcome to the log Jack  
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    Piet reacted to Jack12477 in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    Guess I will pull up a stool also Denis.
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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    back in the day,  there were no build slips for these models........the stops were supplied to make your own.  I decided not to use them and use the build slip that Billing Boats later developed.  at this point of the build,  it fits fine.....but add the rabbits,  and there would have to be modifications made on the slip.

    it can't be put in at the stern end due to the rudder shoe.  at this point,  it was time to start cutting out the parts.....the rabbits were first.   the bow rabbits weren't too bad....I only had to repair one of them,  but for the stern,  they were a total loss.   I made a pair from basswood stock,  1/16 inches thick.....they were fitted and then fine tuned later,  when they were cemented to the stern stem.


    as mentioned,  the bow rabbits fared much better.

    there was a small cap rabbit that fit at the top of the stem....they were replaced by 4 mm strip stock.    this is not a good start........I want to use as many kit parts as possible.........for the Nordkap,  I used about 90% of the original wood........one of my goals in building an old kit like this.  it's not petrified wood,  it's just dry beyond comprehension.    being mahogany {they call it Mahonie in the instructions},  it is very brittle.   while these parts were drying,  I went on my cutting spree.  first were all of the deck beams...


    some of the mahogany parts...

    these parts won't be needed...

    haven't tried to cut any of the 1/16 plywood parts.......some of these parts won't be used either

    when dry,  the keel was put back on the slip........that's when I found out the slots weren't wide enough.   rather than try and adjust anything,  I just kept making sure that it sat correctly in the slip.

    the bow bulkheads were cemented in place first.  these didn't require spacers.....

    once I arrived at the flat of the keel,  the real fun started  
     
     
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    Piet reacted to Elijah in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    Looks like a nice build Popeye! I have a couple old kits and they look intimidating, so kudos to you for taking this on. I liked your dinosaur analogy. 
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    Piet reacted to channell in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    Wow, that's a well-aged kit! Forgive me for asking but would it possibly have more collector value untouched in the box like some styrene kits? Don't know if there's even a market for old wood ship kits or not... 
     
    Anyway, takin' a seat for the show... 
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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    it all starts with assembling the keel.......the bow stem and the stern stem are pre cut out.   the keel spine is made up of two strips of pine,  cut to accommodate the stems.   


    at the base of each stem,  there are the steps that the pine strips need to fit into.   there is some sanding requires to get them to fit snugly.   plastic wrap was laid out for the assembly to lay on as it was cemented together.

    to what small gaps remain,  they were filled with glue.   this sat for the day.


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    Piet reacted to popeye the sailor in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    thanks John........there's more I need to add.   I'm so glad you popped in..........I hope your going to follow along.   you were so helpful with the nordkap and all.   I forgot to add this,  but there won't be a remake of the Nordkap.   I was going to replicate the parts,  but I thought of all the extra work and changed my mind.   I figure that I'd wait till later and order one of the newer kits.........see what it's like to work with laser cut parts   
     
    the admiral said I could      oh.........I hope you're doing well....as I recall,  you were getting a tune up 
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    Piet reacted to Jim Lad in MS Progress by popeye the sailor - Billing Boats - 1:50 scale   
    Terrific!  Another fishing boat from Popeye! 
     
    John
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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    Evening all   so today was  "weathering/shading day"   - I gave the hull and upper hull parts a series of dry brush white passes,  basically  just white acrylic  with a large brush  with almost all of tha paint taken off the brush with a rag,  than brushed all over raising the highlights  and  creating some age.
     
    Here's the pics -
     
    OC.




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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    Good evening all,      firstly thank you all for the likes and comments  - I had another good day on the pearl  I started bt painting the main grating, then I glued it down and set it aside to set,   then I turned my attention to the poop deck  firstly I constructed a section of grating for the wheel to sit on, then I boxed it in, before fixing it down I cut a square opening through the deck for the wheel/rudder control ropes to go through the deck,  then I glued the grating down and gave it a couple of coats of paint.
    I also decided to modify the captains cabin roof skylight as the kit molded sides are flat and not angled,   I got around this by sanding the top till I created a slope,   right here goes a little bit of my immagination  - I decided to try to create the illusion of candle light inside the cabin using a mix of orangy/yellow/red paints - the idea was to attach some clear plastic glued under the deck, this I painted the colors to (on the underside of the clear plastic)  I also added some more clear plastic under the skylight top frame (acting as windows)  the idea was  looking through two sections of clear plastic should mimic dappled coloured light.
     
    So here are a few pics showing my ideas.
     
    OC.




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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    Evening all,    got some more work done on the pearl this evening,  I  glued a few of the deck/bulkheads together and added a finishing strip to cover where I had dropped the front of the forecastle deck down a bit.
     
    Here are a few pics  also one showing a comparison with my other build  - they could almost be from the same film.
     
    OC.



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    Piet reacted to rwiederrich in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    OC..I was thinking of using the powder and sealer on the entire hull...not just the deck.  It gives the highlights that eludes to sun washed wood and greying that comes with it.  Here is another example of the same model I did of the Ferreira (AKA Cutty Sark)
     
    I was mimicking the image of the severely weathered vessel...note the accompanying image.
     
    Rob

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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    Evening all,    more work today on the main deck  - its getting there.
     
    OC.


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    Piet reacted to lmagna in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    Here you go, music and all.
     
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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    A shot of the actual ship   curtosy of  Hawi'i magazine   shot in 2011  for one of the later films.
     
    OC.

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    Piet reacted to lmagna in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    I suppose that could be possible except you would only have power to the light(s) when you have light available not in the dark when you really want it.
     
    I am sure you could make it so the wires exit through the keel, or you locate a power jack plug there and hide the power source in the stand. It is coming up Christmas and if your stores are anything like ours they will be overflowing with the cheap Chinese micro lights, (About the size of a grain of rice) that run on three AAA batteries and cost about $5, (3.81 GPB) If not they are readily available on eBay and elsewhere.
    https://www.lightinthebox.com/en/p/1pc-2m-20led-battery-powered-led-string-light-waterproof-led-fairy-strip-lamps-for-wedding-party-event-christmas-decoration_p6038135.html?currency=USD&litb_from=paid_adwords_shopping&sku=221_3079&country_code=us&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&adword_mt=&adword_ct=216747508710&adword_kw=&adword_pos=1o2&adword_pl=&adword_net=g&adword_tar=&adw_src_id=2907233386_857973720_51218338528_pla-349653284574&gclid=Cj0KCQjwl9zdBRDgARIsAL5Nyn39eE5nexlQlGptBAqRjvGEozXtbaXOSq63wkAc7WX9crzJtcJVpFIaAufIEALw_wcB
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    Piet reacted to CDW in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    Oh man, that is a really nice kit. Santa came early this year!
    Can't wait to see the model as you progress with it.
    What kind of figurehead does the kit include?
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    Piet reacted to Old Collingwood in Black Pearl by Old Collingwood - FINISHED - 1/72 Scale   
    So  no time like the present  I opened it up and made a start putting some paint on the upper hull parts and other hull parts,  I chose a slightly grey/black color that is supposed to simulate a burned wood affect.
     
    I will be building her  (very slightly differently - well A lot)  from my original  plan,  as I will be using the Fantastic kit as a base  but adding many wood parts including  - masts and spars, decking,  details  and  rope shrouds and all running gear.
    I am not sure if she still belongs here in the scratchbuild section (modes let me know what you think)
     
    I am really looking forward to this build as the kit is Fantastic  and aided with  extra detailing it should be a stunning  ship.
     
    "Oh Arr  me hearties"
     
    OC.


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