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I have progressed to the point of adding much of the boiler deck. Thought that I would add some up to date pictures.
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I finish the main staircase and the lights for that area. All the lights are 12v 1.8mm LEDS. I have a variable resistor that I may have to use to dim it a little. I'll wait till after I finished to see if I need it.
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Sorry I did it again post a reply twice.
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I have completed the main deck to the point that I will add the next (boiler deck??). According to the plans I will add the rails etc on the main deck latter. I have added lights to the engine room, boiler room and over the doors. I'll get a better photo of the effect next time. I thing I want to add a red led to the boiler room to get a little more effect. I finished the planking with MinWax wipe on poly (wop). Really couldn't tell the before and after finish.
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I have completed the main deck to the point that I will add the next (boiler deck??). According to the plans I will add the rails etc on the main deck latter. I have added lights to the engine room, boiler room and over the doors. I'll get a better photo of the effect next time. I thing I want to add a red led to the boiler room to get a little more effect. I had to add ceilings to the boiler and engine rooms because of the lights, and prevent them from shining through to the upper deck. I finished the planking with MinWax wipe on poly (wop). Really couldn't tell the before and after finish.
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Cathead I appreciate your keen eye. I took one picture then realized I should show the paddle wheel so I just set it there. The structures are planked, and I have just started planking the deck. Here I am using another idea I got from you. I have cut the strips in "20 and 10 ft" lengths and stained them Minwax natural then randomly layed them. I like the effect. I think I mentioned before I do not intend to "Gloss" anything. Just going to keep it flat finish. Since the kit has no real name I am trying to come up with my own name for it. I may use my wife's maiden name. I have practiced using decal paper with an ink jet printer and things have come out pretty well. When I come up with something I like I'll put it on a 1/32" plywood and mount it on the side. This picture shows the wire that will got to the spotlight that is on the foremast. Glad you are following, and keep the comment coming Clarence
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Here is the status to date. I have the main deck structures in place and painted. I used tan for the hull. I saw it in a picture of the Bertram in Cathead's forum and I thought it look good and different.
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I see I posted the last twice. Sorry. I get the hang of this soon.
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sorry it took so long to continue, but a few personal issues have held me up. I have finished the hull planking, and have done a little mock up of the superstructure. Without knowing any facts I would say the model is a little “to tall”. The paddle wheel is 28ft in dia, the boiler room is 12ft tall The other decks have a ceiling height of 9+ft. I have spent quite a bit of time trying to modify it to something less, but with all the laser cut parts that fit so well it means that if you change one it cascades through the whole model. So I have decided to follow the plans except where change does not create a mountain of problems. I have cut the paddle wheel down to 18ft. and am going use flat finishes instead of the varnish. I have pained the hull white and tan below the water line. I
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sorry it took so long to continue, but a few personal issues have held me up. I have finished the hull planking, and have done a little mock up of the superstructure. Without knowing any facts I would say the model is a little “to tall”. The paddle wheel is 28ft in dia, the boiler room is 12ft tall The other decks have a ceiling height of 9+ft. I have spent quite a bit of time trying to modify it to something less, but with all the laser cut parts that fit so well it means that if you change one it cascades through the whole model. So I have decided to follow the plans except where change does not create a mountain of problems. I have cut the paddle wheel down to 18ft. and am going use flat finishes instead of the varnish. I have pained the hull white and tan below the water line. I The planking on the bottom of the hull is not to good. It calls for double planking, but when I decided to paint the hull i decided to leave the bottom as is. If someone turns it over after it is built,, so be it. The paddle wheel in the background is painted dark red, and the paddles are dark red mahogany. I get a better picture next time.
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I thin that is great idea. There is so much I thought I knew, and so much more I realize I don't If one is started I hope the it would not be to limited in scope. I am interested in the steam engines, difference between up river down rive boats, passenger/gargo etc. I am working on the Mantua boat, and have ordered plans to hopefully scratch build one I've putted up my study chair and am ready Clarence
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I agree with all the comments above. This forum has enforced my feelings of riverboats. Growing up in Pittsburgh in the 30-40s I spent a lot of time sitting on the hill watching the boat traffic. I have built the "Chaparon", and am in the process of building the Mississippi Riverboat" Mantua. This kit seems out of proportion in so many ways, that I am spending a lot of time doing research to try to get it right. All of your words and those of others have helped. Maybe there should be a corner of this site for Riverboats.
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Nice work and explanation. It shows that need is the mother of invention.
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I am going to finish planking the hull, then try to mock up the decks to see what the kit hieghts are. Then I may have to scratch build or modify portions to get it reasonable. I am certainly going to reduce the wheel to around 18ft.
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Buying an Expensive Kit and throwing most of it away
chborgm replied to pirozzi's topic in Wood ship model kits
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Cathead There was also the name "The Bourbon Nearly" shown on the front of the Pilot House. Sorry I missed it last time. Also below is a old photo of the Chaparon it is essentially identical to the kit.
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Here is a side shot of the main deck. You may not be able to read the ruler, but it is 5/8" and over all length is 40" The names that show up on the drawing are: "The River Prince Company" on side of Engine room, "Tennessee - New Orleans" on the side of the boiler room & "Matthew V Spress" on the side of the Pilot House. Here is a picture of the Chaparon (MSW) that I built which has good proportions and is in agreement with a picture of it in real Life. I'll copy it and include in future post.
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Well here is the first step. The kit is roughly 9" wide and 40" long. A quick look at the parts trouble me a little in that some of the parts look out of scale. For example the paddle wheel is 7" in dia. That scales to 28 feet. I would think it should be around 16 to 18 feet. The cabin height also looks a little tall. I am not sure what realistically they should be. I'll take any input. After I get the hull planked I'll mock it up and see how it works out. I am certainly goig to cut down the wheel and try to get everything in the right proportions. I have Built the Chaparon (MSW), and it appears very true to historic drawing and pictures so I will use the as a guide. Another note on the kit. The supplied plywood is very soft and porous. Using thin quick set CA the glue gets absorbed by wood, and a second coat has to be used. I switched to the thicked CA and it works ok.
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Well I got the kit last night. UPS came at 8:00PM. I had ordered it from Model Ship Building College in Australia. (it was little lower cost) According to the internet tracking it made 27 transfer on it's way here. the shipment came through Europe,London, New York, Miami, to Palm Beach Gardens I am not going to unpack it any further than that. I'll do it as I need the parts I do not intend to finish it like the pictures in the box. I am going to paint the hull flat white, and tone down the finish everywhere. Also I intend to put lights in it like the model of the "Portland" that I just finished. A quick review of the drawings and part show that Mantua took some liberty in making this kit a true "Scale Model". The paddle wheel scales out to be 28 ft in Dia where it should be in the 16 - 18 range. The aspect ratio of the model makes it appear short and tall.
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I can see what happened I started with a question and then unthinkly let it evolve into a build forum. I will redo and move. Pls anyone following this please follow on the Kit Built forums Sorry for the error
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I will be more than happy to conform since I use this site a lot, and have been frustrated at times when I have searched for an item. The kit is by Mantua, but not of a "Named" boat. So I guess it would be correct to title it as:-- Mississippi Riverboat by chborgm – Mantua – Scale 1:50 How do I change it? Clarence
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Well here is the first step. The kit is roughly 9" wide and 40" long. A quick look at the parts trouble me a little in that some of the parts look out of scale. For example the paddle wheel is 7" in dia. That scales to 28 feet. I would think it should be around 16 to 18 feet. The cabin height also looks a little tall. I am not sure what realistically they should be. I'll take any input. After I get the hull planked I'll mock it up and see how it works out.
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Bluejackett has some nice turnbuckles in several small sizes. They used them on their Portland Model I built. Somewhere along the line I missed the overall dimensions of your model. Especially the diameter of the paddle wheel. I have just started the Mantua Mississippi Riverboat and some of the dimensions look wrong when I compare it the "Chaparon" that I built. for example the Wheel scales to 28ft.
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