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Hi Dave Thank you for your advice. I have already downloaded an excellent Simple Planking Guide for Beginners by Bakker, Brooker, and Rogers. Is that the guide you helped write or are you offering a different article? I will PM you an email address after posting this just in case your article is different. Thank you for your kind offer. Reading the Simple Planking Guide for Beginners carefully again and then again ( It's amazing what one misses on the first reading - especially this one ) I can see that I've failed to even consider a beading line for starters. I'm going to ponder over that and decide whether to remove all planks and use a dremel to attempt to create the beading line or whether to continue on regardless and just taper the thin planks. It has been eight years since this build began (life got in the way but it's OK - the stuff that got in the way has been mostly superb) and it is my first build, so I'm kind of thinking - just get the build finished, learn from the mistakes and do a better build on the next ship. I think the ship will look much better painted (and hides minor mistakes as you suggest) so that might be the way to go. Looks like a nicer day coming up than we've been having and I get the feeling that I'm expected to do something 'useful' outside to please the Commander in Chief who must be obeyed so there may not be any further progress today. Thank you again for your kind advice Dave Graham

Gidday to you also Rowan Thank you for your reply. I think I'll follow your advice and dry glue. On the first planking attempt, I glued the planks while they were moist and that may have caused some of the issues that I had. With regards to the Victory video - You might be confusing me with another fellow Melbournian, Paul Rowan. To prove this, you'll find a photo of our beloved dog, Ascii attached as well. It was good of Paul to make a video though and it was interesting watching the unpacking video along with the wonderful canine expressions as well. Your jig is pure genius Rowan as is your beautiful Endeavour. My tools are limited and my workshop is yet to be created as they say so I'm going to try the hot water and pin method of plank bending. I bought a length of PVC pipe and two ends to use for soaking the planks and have attached a photo of that. The photos show extensive use of polyfilla and sanding to regain the proper shape after removing the old warped planks with acetone. (These photos are shown at the beginning of this build log). Thank you again for your advice Rowan Stay warm and Cheers as always Graham

Ok - it's been a while but work has recommended in the shipyard. All along though, I must say that it is very enjoyable reading what everyone else has to say on this forum. Most of the old surface planks have been removed and new replacement planks have arrived since. I'm about to attempt planking once again but a question has occurred. I'm soaking the planks in a tube of warm water to make them very pliable because I don't have an electric plank bender. The question is: Should I glue them in situ while the planks are wet or should I affix the plank by means of clips, pins ect and let the plank dry before gluing? I'm using Titebond glue. The glue instructions say to use on clean dry surfaces so I'm assuming the latter part of the question is probably the better way to go. The glue is water cleanup. I'll post some photos shortly from my laptop. Thanking you for any advice Graham

Thanks for your time, typing up all those notes for me Pat and of course, your kind advice and learned wisdom. I had another good and better informed look at the bow problem again and after taking measurements, it seems that the problem is that either the starboard planks are curved a little too much upwards, or the port planks are curved a little too much downwards. The planks only get out of whack where the bow really begins to curve. To solve this problem on this occasion, I might just trim the lowest portside plank at the bow slightly to even it up with the starboard plank. I recon by the time the rest of the planks are done and given that this is my first build, only myself and a keen beholders eye would be able to pick the issue. I have downloaded all the planking guides that I can find on this site and am now trawling through the planking forum to get a handle on how to properly progress. Your notes will help most assuredly. Thanks again Graham

It is almost the end of January - time for an update. As you can see from the previous post, I used Polyfilla to try to overcome the fact that I did not fair the bulkheads before doing the first planking, some seven or so years earlier. (Life got in the way hence this extrordinarily long build ) Lesson learned = fair the bulkheads! The polyfilla has now been sanded back as the new photos show. I think there is now a more rounded shape upon which to begin the second planking. I've learned that broad areas can be easily sanded but when it comes to trying to sand something right beside a part that you don't wish to sand, then sanding become difficult if you don't wish to damage the unsanded part. I suppose some might use a dremel for the fine sanding but gee, one false move and you have a repair job I recon. What I did discover was that if you paint acetone on Polyfilla, you can very easily by using a sharp knife or chisel, remove very thin layers of Polyfilla right beside parts that you don't want to accidentally sand. This allows for very fine work indeed. With respect to the bow photo below, you will see that I have drawn a crude circle around a couple of opposing planks. Looking at both the starboard and port plank, you will notice that they don't quite mirror each other on a horozontal plane. I'm looking for opinions please. Should I remove these planks and attempt to mirror both the starboard and port planks or should I leave it and make small incremental adjustments until they mirror as the planking gets redone? I've tried by eye to keep the starboard and port sides looking exactly identical and mirrored. Is there a better way and perhaps easier way to achieve this other than by eye? Cheers as always and thanks in advance for any comments and advice, Graham

Thank you very much to everyone who, in response to a planking question here... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8772-first-attempt-at-planking-need-advice/ ...answered with lots of opinions and advice. I was asked to create a build log, and this is the result of that sensible request Taking aboard all your varying opinions and advices, I was unsure about what to do. After checking to see if more planks could be purchased, for better or worse as they say, to remove the offending planks. This way, hopefully I can create a much better surface upon which to attach the final planks. I think, seeing as I did not fair the frames before the first planking, one significant cause of the issues mentioned the link above was unevenness of the first planking layer. Another significant cause is inexperience but inexperience always precedes experience so there is no avoiding that! With the help of a litre of Bunnings acetone, a number of planks were carefully removed and then polyfilla was used to create a rough sanding surface. The photos below show how this model has progressed from my first planking post. Just to recap - Before plank removal (from original post in link above) After plank removal Here you can see the abrupt fairing issue After filler - awaiting drying and sanding Same but showing taping over planks to be retained It will be interesting to see if this innovation makes a difference but we will have to wait until the sanding is completed to be sure. Thanks again for all your help and advice thus far. Much appreciated. Happy modeling in 2015 as well Cheers Graham

A beautifully designed, eyecatching and informative catalogue there Daniel Well done! All the best for 2015 Graham

Congratulations Daryl, on your achievement Finished just in time for the 2015 footy pre-season. Looking forward to seeing you begin your next build Wishing you a happy Christmas Graham

Thank you everyone I'm not worried about the hole. It's more about the shape of the hull and trying to get the second planking closer to what it should be. I agree with you all even though there is a little conflicting advice there :-) but that is very understandable when there are so many experienced people willing to give unbiased advice. Armed with your advice, I'm going to weigh your kind advice, procrastinate for a day or two and then do something and pop that in a new build log. Thank you again Graham

Thank you very much for your kind and willing advice everyone. Looks like I have lots or reading and thinking to do, some plank undoing, a little plank resupply ordering and another go at doing things properly. Mind you, taking time and doing things properly in the first place would have helped avoid this. And yes, I will begin a build log shortly. Great idea. Thank you again Graham

Greetings to all from northern NSW In 2006, I commenced building the Artesania Latina H. M. S. Endeavour before work, family and moving house interfered. Eight years later, I'd like to continue. This is my first build. Looking at the model, I think the decking is OK but the planking needs attention before continuing. Photos are attached for your scrutiny! I would imagine experienced modelers would probably say the first planking isn't too bad but the flaring of the bulkheads wasn't done well. They might also say that the second planking is totally wrong. The reason for this post is to seek a little advice if the following thinking is incorrect. I'm thinking about removing the second planking entirely. After that, using filler to better round out the bulkhead issues and then to do do the second planking. To avoid repeating the same mistakes I have downloaded well written planking guides and am rereading Mastini's Ship Modelling Simplified book as well as consulting relevent posts on this forum. If this thinking is wrong or if there is a better way, I'd appreciate any advice that members may give. Thanking you Graham

Hi Frank Thank you for your photos and writings. I have a partially built AL Endeavour built and I'm not happy with the planking thus far. Being a newbie modeller, methinks I've exceeded my ability and need to do an apprenticeship properly. The Palamos is widely touted as a beginner ship and I'm thinking of buying it to learn before retackling the Endeavour. So am following your build logs with much interest! Is there any chance of a photo of the gap problem? Thanks Graham