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slow2cool got a reaction from CaptainSteve in Pinrail rope coils
Hi Jd
I had the same problem.
In the first link it will show how I make coils. The way I make them does help them to lay right.
https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/13186-making-rope-coils-with-help-from-many/&tab=comments#comment-402670
The next link will show how I hold coil in place while the glue dries
Before I place the coil on the pin and pin rail I will put some water down glue on the rope that bends around the pin. If need be I will also put some on the coil. This will soften the rope and make it so it will flex easier. Then I use the next link
https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/12313-just-the-right-amount-of-holding-force/&tab=comments#comment-372390
Hope this helps
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from mtaylor in Pinrail rope coils
Hi Jd
I had the same problem.
In the first link it will show how I make coils. The way I make them does help them to lay right.
https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/13186-making-rope-coils-with-help-from-many/&tab=comments#comment-402670
The next link will show how I hold coil in place while the glue dries
Before I place the coil on the pin and pin rail I will put some water down glue on the rope that bends around the pin. If need be I will also put some on the coil. This will soften the rope and make it so it will flex easier. Then I use the next link
https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/12313-just-the-right-amount-of-holding-force/&tab=comments#comment-372390
Hope this helps
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Nirvana in Painting a Waterline
I would paint the hull white, the whole hull
Then I would mark the water line.
Then tape and cover the white paint, then paint black.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Nirvana in Chuck's planking videos...
Mark and Chuck
Thanks for posting. I never saw this before. I can't wait for my next build to try this out.
Will this work on all types of wood???
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Elijah in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Good to see you back, and all is well. I was thinking something bad may have happened. Planking looks great.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
I just made my first ship with rigging and sails. The box shows them some what furled, but I wanted to to try the full blown efect.
The way it turned out it does hide some of the rigging when looking from the front, when you look from the sides you can see the rigging and more details.
I find that a ship with full blown sails very majestic.
If losing detail is you concern you can always have the sails just starting to furl. Or have the top sails full and the bottom sails starting to furl.
One more thing to think about is at the scale you are woking with you should have more room to work with sails. Mine was 1:90 scale, so things were a little tight.
On the other hand, if this is your first ship, you may want to take things a little easy. From what I understand you have a great kit.
Now if it were me, I would go full tilt, because the Victory is a very majestic ship.
Hope you do a build log, I would like to follow your progress. If you do, send me a PM so I can follow your log.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from mrshanks in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Good to see you back, and all is well. I was thinking something bad may have happened. Planking looks great.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from mtaylor in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Good to see you back, and all is well. I was thinking something bad may have happened. Planking looks great.
Joe
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slow2cool reacted to John Maguire in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Thank you Elijah. Thank you for the LIKES, folks.
A pause of a couple of weeks for Raspberry Pi projects and a VPN setup between Seattle and Maine. Those events are under control and back to the shipyard.
At my rate of advance, it continues slow and deliberate. The steam box is working well for my edge bending.
I have redone the plank mapping fore 'n aft. Fifteen additional strakes to go. The bow area looks weird. I hope it'll become clear to me a I get closer. Dropped planks don't look apparent, but my eye is inexperienced. Aft, I believe a stealer is in store. The turn by the rudder post might be a logical place.
Respectfully submitted,
John
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slow2cool got a reaction from Barbara in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
I have not been doing this for a long time but, I would say that Brian is spot on. I can't think of any thing else.
If you can spile, spile. If you can't look for softer wood.
I have to say, it takes a lot of determanation to sand away the work you have done.
Joe
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slow2cool reacted to Elijah in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
That is some very nice hull planking! Great job!
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slow2cool got a reaction from Elijah in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Great Job John
I have learned a lot from you
Thanks for posting
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Elijah in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
John
You are not alone. I have the same thinking as you.
When things don't work out I keep thinking it me, and I must be doing something wrong. Like not enough heat, to much heat, didn't let it soak long enough, etc, etc.
I like you have come to the point that it must be the wood, and different wood acts different.
What you have come up with is not only out of the box, but very smart. I would have never thought of using tile to help with the bending.
My hat is off to you for keeping with it, and doing what you have done.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from mtaylor in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Great Job John
I have learned a lot from you
Thanks for posting
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from WackoWolf in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
John
You are not alone. I have the same thinking as you.
When things don't work out I keep thinking it me, and I must be doing something wrong. Like not enough heat, to much heat, didn't let it soak long enough, etc, etc.
I like you have come to the point that it must be the wood, and different wood acts different.
What you have come up with is not only out of the box, but very smart. I would have never thought of using tile to help with the bending.
My hat is off to you for keeping with it, and doing what you have done.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from mtaylor in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
John
You are not alone. I have the same thinking as you.
When things don't work out I keep thinking it me, and I must be doing something wrong. Like not enough heat, to much heat, didn't let it soak long enough, etc, etc.
I like you have come to the point that it must be the wood, and different wood acts different.
What you have come up with is not only out of the box, but very smart. I would have never thought of using tile to help with the bending.
My hat is off to you for keeping with it, and doing what you have done.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from mtaylor in scarf joints
Dennis
If you want the best videos I have ever seen, go to utube and look up "daves" or "dave stevens" videos. The build he does is the Caustic
"daves" is on modelshipworld
If you can't find him or the videos, send me PM and I will look for the links
His videos are outstanding, everthing is very clear and spot on.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Canute in scarf joints
Dennis
If you want the best videos I have ever seen, go to utube and look up "daves" or "dave stevens" videos. The build he does is the Caustic
"daves" is on modelshipworld
If you can't find him or the videos, send me PM and I will look for the links
His videos are outstanding, everthing is very clear and spot on.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Seventynet in scarf joints
Dennis
If you want the best videos I have ever seen, go to utube and look up "daves" or "dave stevens" videos. The build he does is the Caustic
"daves" is on modelshipworld
If you can't find him or the videos, send me PM and I will look for the links
His videos are outstanding, everthing is very clear and spot on.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from CaptainSteve in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
John
You are not alone. I have the same thinking as you.
When things don't work out I keep thinking it me, and I must be doing something wrong. Like not enough heat, to much heat, didn't let it soak long enough, etc, etc.
I like you have come to the point that it must be the wood, and different wood acts different.
What you have come up with is not only out of the box, but very smart. I would have never thought of using tile to help with the bending.
My hat is off to you for keeping with it, and doing what you have done.
Joe
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slow2cool reacted to John Maguire in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
Thank you for the many likes and I'm pleased to see some new names looking in. Thank you.
My planking is slow. There are generally three and in some instances four segments fore & aft in each strake. Each one is compression edge clamped because I am not edge glueing. I just finished the fourth upper level strake on each side. The multiple planks per "run" restricts how many sections can be attached each day.
After making a pattern, both garboard planks were laid parallel and simultaneously shaped on the Byrnes sander. Each was well and evenly beveled in a calibrated manner by using the Byrnes sander table at a 75 degree angle. They were then marked with a small pencil tic that was used as a mark against the keel to assure symmetry on both sides of the keel.
The stbd garboard was then attached today and will remain clamped for a full day to allow the glue to cure. Lots of glue is visible because I like the buff white color scheme and am comfortable that I'll be able to satisfactorily prep the area prior to paint. Putty & paint makes the devil a saint . . . . Easy glue application on the other strakes but heavy on the garboard.
I suspect that a month of easy days is in store for this lower hull planking.
Respectfully submitted,
John Maguire
Seattle
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slow2cool got a reaction from Elijah in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
John
You are doing some really great work. Looks like all your effort is paying off.
At the rate you are going your planking job is 1st rate.
Joe
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slow2cool got a reaction from Elijah in REVENGE by John Maguire - Amati/Victory Models - build in the Cougar Mountain Shipyard
John
I have been there done that. I have spent weeks trying this, doing that. Then my admiral will say I don't knnow why you build those things.
Any other time she is very helpful.
For a long time I thought is was just me that had the results that you have gone through. I thought I was doing something wrong.
Thanks for posting, and all the info
Joe
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slow2cool reacted to Red in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
HI Mike
Another problem overcome, well done.
I am currently building a Ship-ways model Philadelphia. So far everything has been most impressive; design, instructions, a very well thought out model.
I have noticed though, that some of the larger pieces of thin wood do bare an uncanny resemblance to the type of wood you are having so much trouble with (deck).
However it does look a fine model. Anyway I have learnt something from your trials and tribulations, so thanks for posting.
Regards
Red
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slow2cool reacted to Mike Dowling in Chaperon 1894 by Mike Dowling - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Sternwheeler Steamer
Yes you are right my friend, it didn't look bad before I started painting it - except for the lumps of course !!!
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