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  1. CharlieZardoz
    The attachment is removable. It's supposed to be for keeping the plank in place but really not necessary. Aeropiccola is long gone but from what I can tell their version is still the fav of those who use electric benders. And thanks for that Feldman link Doc! Definitely future subjects of interest to me. I'd like them both 1/64 but that just means downscaling by exactly half, ezpz
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    Regarding the aeropiccola plank bender (the company which designed it), that's the one I and those in the Brooklyn group (including Dan Pariser) use. It's nice in that you have variation in how you extreme you can bend the planks however we don't bother with the attachment piece, it isn't necessary. Not sure why other plank benders don't have the same shape head it's extremely useful.
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    http://www.modelsailingships.com/text/grass_text.html Hey guys according to this link the ships of 1811/1812 did not have a square tuck stern. So the first Grasshopper probably had one while the second did not. Also says the Epervier did not. Assuming we can trust this one source but that's my opinion that the tuck was probably something removed after 1810 but still not considered obsolete circa 1804. There is a 4/5 year gap in builds for the Cruizer class after 1807 so probability a chance for the plans to be revised a bit.
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    Well which Cruizer class brigs are confirmed as not having a square tuck?
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    Here is scout's plan from Greenwich archives, what do you think guys?
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    Well frolick when was the square tuck eliminated completely? We know Enterprize was built with one in 1799 and then later removed so it could be a time period thing since this class was built over the course of a few decades. Also are these all builders plans which are all sort of based off the original cruizer plan (with a few bits redrawn) so looking at them I honestly can't tell a difference... To tuck or to untuck that is the question. Tehe
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    Also here is the image of the Scorpion stern from that excellent rc model from the link I posted. Square tuck not sure if that's accurate based on what frolick is saying.
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    Thanks Joe. That is a perfect view though can anyone make out that symbol above the name Irine? Looks like to animals with a sort of crest? So Irene and Grasshopper are the same ship yes? Interesting though that the stern shape differs a bit again from Epervier and Scorpion/Cruizer. Ill have to invest in that Irene book
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    Yes this is what I thought thank you. Also the tip of Epervier's bow looks like something should be there no? Frolick what do you think?
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    And here is the plan for Scorpion/Cruizer which comparing the two you can see the subtle differences between 1797 and 1812.
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    Hi yes I see the plan. However the French one of 1803 to my knowledge isnt a Cruizer class ship. The ornamentation on that one is clear. I will assume these ships had very little decoration if any and especially by 1812 they would have been further streamlined. This does look a bit like a builders plan though and the billet looks like it could hold something maybe a scroll? But what can I say I like knowing the suttle nuances between ship classes. Are there any clearer images of the Irine models stern?
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    So that's Irine not Scorpion? My mistake then and yeah one day ill splurge on the book I just love adding to my resources on ships The link for the rc model of Scorpion looks amazing not sure if its accurate but looks pretty neat. And im thinking one day I may build the Caldercraft kit and if I do id like it to be the Epervier
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    That makes sense of course. Do you happen to have an image or source (book?) of these to see what these looked like?
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    Hi Jason! Well yes I get that and understand what these ships might have had was minimal at best but these images show what I mean. HMS Scorpion seems to have some basic scrollwork similar to Syren's stern and then there is this strange figurehead on Epervier. Neither pic is clear enough for me to make out so by all means I'm open to interpretation lol Maybe it's something that is -er at the discretion of the model builder? Also check this build log and look at these various flourish concepts. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1716548&page=13
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    Hi all! I am curious since most ships tend to have slight differences in the bow and stern decorations (carvings if any) among class ships, were there any for the Cruizer class and more importantly is there any record of what they might have been? The HMS Scorpion miodel does seem to have some scrollwork and a model of Epervier I've seen has what looks like a figurehead.
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    Another quick point im using the flat edge to create the keelson edge. Then sanding away and down if that makes sense.
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    One quick image showing the symmetry done for the bow. Now moving slowly towards the stern the same method as the other side.
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    Thank you so much guys. Im really hoping to give these models my best and learn all the lessons I need in order to then build bigger and better ships and get to the level I seen from your logs. I can only dream of building frigate or larger for now.
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    No worries Mark, all that's out that window is a courtyard, perhaps a few dusty pigeons
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    Haha cheers! Well it was touch and go there for a bit I realized this was a tad more challenging than I expected. But I'm very pleased with the result and learned a lot and yes have been wearing a mask though initially I didn't realize how much dust this can create so I started doing the sanding by the window and that helped.
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    And so here we are. I've gotten one half sanded perfect to the templates. Now onto the second half. You can see in some of the pics the difference between sides especially at the stern. Also look at the design such a streamline shape so different to Sultana.
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    The keel now fits where it should. Notice the beak overhangs a bit. This is correct and in the proper keel (made in cherry?) I will have the beak extend about a quarter of an inch onto the top deck. The lines on the hull will be redrawn a few times but they help me know where to sand. The xxxx's are where the templates brush into the wood incorrectly so those areas are where I sand next. EzPz!
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    So then came the sanding process. You can see the tools I used starting from the bow and working my way back. The shaping templates helped me to refine the form and were invaluable. You can see the various bit I used to sand roughly then refine and the smaller ones for curves and detailing.
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    Using a slicing style blade for the dremel I sliced about a quarter of an inch off the keelson. In hindsight it should have been from the deck however it ultimately worked out just as fine even if I now have lungs full of sawdust lol. The box shows what fell in the rest blew out the window using a reverse fan
  25. CharlieZardoz
    So here is my newest update. I spent a week or so reshaping the hull from the 31 ton at 1/48 scale (the kit) to a 51 ton 1/64 scale. This was a bit more challenging than one might think while both look similar there is actually quite a bit of difference in the incline. The 51 ton is flatter at 27 degrees while the 31 ton has more drag at 30 degrees. Fortunately the templates at modelshipwright are perfect as they indicate the height as well as correct shape. Also for a bit of fun I put the Sultana template next to the revenue cutter so you can see how different the shapes are.

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