Cabbie

On 7/19/2020 at 8:42 AM, JamesBhm said:

It’s still up in the air as to whether they’ll come out good enough to feature on the deck

Go easy on yourself James, they look darn good to me as well.

Good to have some one showing me what to do again, except mine keep getting side tracked.

Howdy Scott keeps looking better as it goes.

Fully masted, rigged and with sails she will be majestic to look at.

Marvelous thanks Toni that makes it much clearer.

Chris

17 minutes ago, modeller_masa said:

Hello mm thank you and good to meet you.

Yes when you look at the pics the bottom of the garboard is lower than the stern post.

It must be exactly as you have put in in the red line, instructions. That makes it a lot clearer thank you.

 

I did same thing like the mortise on stem. I hope it is correct.

Yes if you mean removing the deadwood so that the face of the garboard is in line with the stern post.

Also are you reading that the Garboard plank is an even taper from stern to stem,

or do you think it is mainly parallel and just widens at the stern and tapers at the bow?

BTW I hope all is well up there and you are coping with covid 19 ok.

Hooroo Chris

Good evening to all

Working my way through this model and finding it very enjoyable.

But can someone explain to me how and why the garboard plank has the hook down up to the stern post?

Not registering in my brain.

thanks Chris

Hello Ji Yes there seems to be a lot of adjusting, fiddling to get things sitting right with

some of these kits.

Do a test nail into ply and see if it splits or not. The deck needs to be held down somehow.

Some people use a heap of elastic bands, I have glued a timber strip between the bulkheads at the top of

the b'head and used clamps to hold deck down. Probably won't hurt to nail into the b'heads.

And i have used screws at times to hold things in place whilst the glue dries.

Make sure your keel is straight and every thing is squared up before putting deck on.

Hooroo Chris

Still can't see why they want them, card details name and address seems to be good enough anywhere else.

They will have my money, why does a Spanish bureaucracy need passport/id numbers.

Maybe in your case collecting an insurance payout is fair enough, but i would be sending a small

amount of money in. Wouldn't be getting mine anyway, not going to buy anymore AL kits.

Hooroo Chris

Hello Neddie just came across your log, your boat is looking very good indeed.

I think the first lesson to be learnt is "keep going", paying off for you.

As far as tools goes i use one of these.

Couldn't do without it, no quite PC for some but with the disposable blades, which last a fair while,

it makes a lot of things easier to do. I adjust the blade by tapping with a hammer down near the blade.

Cheers Chris

G'day Pete and welcome to MSW.

It looks like you are off to a strong start. yes the planking is certainly a tricky part of

model boat building. I am waiting on this kit myself and am very interested in seeing what you do.

I know very little about ship boats in general and know nothing of the kit.

If you want something to help build up your skills have a look at this,

https://thenrg.org/the-nrg-store.php#!/Half-Hull-Planking-Kit/c/41410202/offset=0&sort=normal

I just started this one.

Thanks for the link to the other log as well.

Hooroo Chris

Just looking through the new site and in order to create an account or use the instant checkout

you have to give them your Id or Passport number.

To me that sounds a bit strange.

https://artesanialatina.net/en/autenticacion?back=my-account

Oh well mark there is always a first time for everyone.😉

You should have i think your keel and stem timbers already shaped in the kit.

Maybe you can use them to check the shape of the bow or find a scrap bit of ply to mark the shape on

and cut it out to use as a template.

Mine was done this way as well, but it was mostly flat. Hard to say what is needed until you start to fair the hull.

What you could do is screw it on dry and then see if there is enough material available for you to sand it flat.

If not, then  glue it on and fill with car filling bog or builders bog. it was placed centrally and flush with the bulkheads at the top.

Cheers Chris

Nice diagram Craig but I haven't got a clue what you are suggesting.

BUT no need to explain, you don't have enough time for me.

On the first image they don't show the line on the other side of the sail.

If it was done as in the Mermaid drawing there would need to

worry about it for tacking?

Chris

On 6/28/2020 at 11:11 AM, Jim Lad said:

 

It will be good to see a model of her carrying her boats - I don't think I've ever seen a cutter model with boats on deck.

 

John

 

 

Thanks John looks like its a 2 part challenge now, making them and then attaching to the deck.

BTW i am enjoying looking at these images on the new 4k computer screen, rally brings out the detail.

And did you see this topic, should be easy for a man of your talents.

Hooroo Chris

Thanks Craig for all of your help I was thinking the same

myself about the breadth of the boats and thinking that meant whale boats.

Cheers Chris

Evening Gents

Could it be for a flag as per image, that will be the absolute best of my contribution. Cabbie

5 minutes ago, iMustBeCrazy said:

I assume you mean me, I've been called a lot of names before but that's a first

 

Not they, that was written by the man himself. It seems that boat naming conventions can be a bit loose.

 

He gives 1st cutter, 2nd cutter, Jolly (or is it Joley) and cutter in frames. So you have to build four then take one apart.

Sorry about that sir, from now on you can call yourself Craig,

The cutters are meant to be whaleboats as per this which is taken from

"Mitchell Library, State Library of New South Wales

Phillip Parker King letter book relating to survey voyages around New South Wales, 1817-1823
MLMSS 4429"

"In addition to these Boongaree a native having volunteered to go with me I have with the Governors permission accepted his services, he formerly was with Captn Flinders

I have 2 Whale Boats, a Jolly Boat
and

[Page 15]

and a Whale Boat in frame, in case any accident should happen to the Vessel"

Sorry for one more question i just don't know enough, but one must strike whilst the iron is hot.

Do those measurements look to be for one type of boat or the other?

Thanks Chris

Hi Paul That certainly sorts a lot of of it. are they calling the boats cutters on this page?

Thanks Rick he had the 3 full boats and frames for another whaleboat stored below.

It is in his letter book relating to the voyages.

Thanks John

It appears i have a little bit of freedom in regards to the whale boats,

just have to work out how to hold them to the deck. The jolly boat will be shortened from what i have now

back to 12 ft.

But I think madness has set in, thinking I am going to make them, but a challenge has been issued and must be honored.

Thanks Roger PP King use the Mermaid for survey voyages around Australia, i don't

know why he the boats that he had, perhaps it what was on the Mermaid when it was bought.

Thanks Chris

Thanks Craig

What do you think, should the jolly boat be shorter? And the breadth of the whaleboats narrower?

I have seen other sites say a whaleboat is generally 28 ft long 6ft wide.

Also they must in a cradle of sorts to sit on the deck?

Going by ratios from that last drawing to model it looks like my whaleboats could be a bit longer.

Sorry for all the questions Cheers Chris

Hello to all

Some help needed please on the deck and ship boats positioning for my Mermaid

PP King said in his journal that he had 2 whaleboats and a Jolly boat, i have done some cardboard shapes to represent the boats.

Where would the Whaleboats be placed, supported on the deck close to where I have them and would the Jolly boat

be hung off Davits at the stern?

And how about the size of the boats that i have, look about right?

All advice greatly appreciated. Thanks Chris

Looking good Jeff, now something a bit more relaxing for a while, always good.

Chris

Hello  Jii Welcome to MSW

Yes it can be a tricky business, model ship building, but very enjoyable.

Whilst looking at kits look here https://thenrg.org/half-hull-planking-kit.php

A lot of beginners get stuck with the fairing and planking, and learn the correct technique first up.

It comes with a very detailed set of instructions.

I am on to my 3rd model so far and as yet have not done one in the correct traditional method.

I have ordered one and will arrive soon I hope, and will do before I start the ship boats for my Mermaid.

And maybe get yourself a little fun build to do as well.

Hooroo Chris