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Dessert And as icing on the cherry :-) I wish you a good night and a good digestion, also we hope you liked Mr Thor and his mighty hammer :-) Daniel

Third Course To end something less heavy to digest, just some details ... What a nice back ... ...hihihihihihi...

Second Course Next curse is about the nippers ... ... here shown the newer version, a long rope, that links the anchor cable with the messenger. The older version is shorter with a small plate on the end, but apparently more difficult to unlock. The system is simple: 3 turns around the messenger, three around both cables, there around the anchor cable. There were more complicated versions, but I hope, this one will do. The ends are not knotted, so I believe the end was to be stretched by a hand. This is why my little shipyard worker was helping out - What a smart nipper he is :-) And here are the details: The messenger is pulled on the starbord side and running back on larboard. At the bows the messenger is running loosely around the rollers ... ... and will be nipped straight after the manger. Both cables run over the horizontal parts of the riding bits. On larboard the eye splices are to be seen, then it goes just straight ... ... before the nipping is taken off for the anchor cable to disappear in the orlop deck. The starboard cable is stored on the port side and vica versa for handling reasons. Of course the grating should still be taken down, but unfortunately it was glued in to professionally in my dim and distant past ... The messenger still has to finish its turn round the pumps, on starboard over the stanchion´s roller ... ... and finally running round the capstan to proceed bowwards. And if you have a close look, you will discover our mysterious Mr. Thor swinging his mighty hammer :-) His duty was to make shure, that the incoming cable does not jump over the turn lying above it. And we see Jack, Ben und Phil pulling free the outgoing cable. Here a overview from the back, one can see the space above the elmtree pumps ... ... also interesting the turns the cables take on the pulled side, both horizontally and vertically ... ... and from the front. ...hihihihihihi... *runningbacktokitchen*

Second Course Next curse is about the nippers ... ... here shown the newer version, a long rope, that links the anchor cable with the messenger. The older version is shorter with a small plate on the end, but apparently more difficult to unlock. The system is simple: 3 turns around the messenger, three around both cables, there around the anchor cable. There were more complicated versions, but I hope, this one will do. The ends are not knotted, so I believe the end was to be stretched by a hand. This is why my little shipyard worker was helping out - What a smart nipper he is :-) And here are the details: The messenger is pulled on the starbord side and running back on larboard. At the bows the messenger is running loosely around the rollers ... ... and will be nipped straight after the manger. Both cables run over the horizontal parts of the riding bits. On larboard the eye splices are to be seen, then it goes just straight ... ... before the nipping is taken off for the anchor cable to disappear in the orlop deck. The starboard cable is stored on the port side and vica versa for handling reasons. Of course the grating should still be taken down, but unfortunately it was glued in to professionally in my dim and distant past ... The messenger still has to finish its turn round the pumps, on starboard over the stanchion´s roller ... ... and finally running round the capstan to proceed bowwards. And if you have a close look, you will discover our mysterious Mr. Thor swinging his mighty hammer :-) His duty was to make shure, that the incoming cable does not jump over the turn lying above it. And we see Jack, Ben und Phil pulling free the outgoing cable. Here a overview from the back, one can see the space above the elmtree pumps ... ... also interesting the turns the cables take on the pulled side, both horizontally and vertically ... ... and from the front. ...hihihihihihi... *runningbacktokitchen*

First Course ... and if you think things are now sorted, you could be wrong ... ... first a threat was streched to get an idea of the way the messenger takes. Bows rather easy, the capstan too, but the pump ensemble appeared intresting ... ... if the messenger is on the floor, it is underneath the dales and could get stuck in the sharp corner of the stanchion, if it is put on the roller of the stanchion, it hangs in the front of the chain pumps´cisterns, if it is lead from the stanchion´s roller to a hanging roller it interferes with the elmtree pump. Only if it is guided by a roller abreast and aback the pumps it can move freely ... ... what was to be proved easily by a test messenger. So distributed the hanging messengers by means of a tape on the stand and doing the count of the deckbeams ... ... and drilling the holes ... ... which resulted in another of my funny operations deep inside the intestines of my Vic. Then taking out the thread, putting in the real messenger ... ... adjusted the length, and taking out the whole thing again to build up the second eye spice ... ... and putting everything in again, sometimes using the heavy duty special devices ... ... just to end up with the fun and honnor to have to do the lashing all down in there :-) But sometimes two hair clamps work wonders :-)! Afterwards Dr dafi still had to remove the stitches ... *andrunnighastilybacktothekitchen*

Aperitif ... so first a new messenger was done and there came the next question: which way was the messenger worked? Always from the bottom to the top or always clockwise because of the lay of the cable? So Jack, Ben und Phil were pushed away from the old capstan, this one was made turnable, the messenger was wound 4 times round, some weight put onto the cables to simulate load and the capstan was worked. The frictional connection worked extremely well on the model, I did not manage to make it loose grip, neither with little or with heavy load. The pile of turns nicely slid upwards, giving space on the bottom. The other way round - cable coming in on the top and leaving on the bottom - did not work as expected. (picture still with an old cable-laid cable) As the messenger is endless, it is linked by 2 eye splices with a lashing. Curious as I am, I wanted to see what happens if this big fat end comes to the capstan - it looks less dramatically than expected :-) And here comes the big topic, the side that runs back too the bows. On the Vic in P. it is shown on the floor, most models show the same. This for sure is the basic idea. But early in the research i found the drawing of 1815, showing hanging rollers. Many contemporary drawings show cables lashed up to the ceiling, the AOTS of Bellona 1760 and Diana 1794 show the same system of rollers as seen on the drawing. So great happiness as I found a uncommon feature to put to discussion. First tests proved successful *jumpingofjoy* *runningbacktokitchen*

I think that by now is a commonly known fact, that I am infamous for trying to understand technical interconnections. I realised long ago the two stanchions situated behind the pumps´area, being that solid, good english oak and plenty of that. Once I fixed the first dale, I immediately understood the height of the guide, to keep the dale free. But as I did not see the sense of the vertical roller, I took the chance to omit it as I thought it to be just for reduction of friction ... ... and as I did not want you to call me a rivet counter ... ... but! ... but by now, a learnt a little bit more about the messenger . yes, a little bit :-) On the tension side the messenger comes from the main hatch - where the anchor cable is stowed - and passes the pumps´ area almost parallel to the ships axis, slowly raising to the above mentioned rollers on the stanchion, where it takes a turn down- and inwards towards the spill. Therefore the whole weight/force of the anchor pulling on the messenger is put onto this one stanchion. No wonder it is as thick as it is. And for that the vertical roller is needed too, yes, the tiny one that little dafi wanted to embezzle ... And another thing I realised ... ... of course the pump and cistern are ought to be kept free too. So the cable has to be set more outside. As the rework was to great to be done ambulantly inside, one already guesses the ritual coming ... ... with a friendly and nasty sound of a gentle crack, caused by the pleasant but nicely brutal push of a scalpel´s back the stanchions gave way for external treatment ... ... the missing wheel including its bearing was fixed, as was the missing clamp (even though I still ignore its purpose, but one can never have enough clamps on a sailing ship) ... ... and positive confirmation that the change of direction works fine :-) Thrown back into the hull, but still just stuck in and therefore not aligned properly ... ... one can see how tight it is ... ... and above I gave the position of the upper deck beam using a kebab skewer ... ... and ontop of this one missing the quarter deck. Deep down inside, the pump now is nicely kept clear ... ... also nicely to be seen from above. Now the messenger can be unleashed :-) Cheerio, DAniel

...hihihihihi... ... and who did realise it? On the plan of the chain pump one can see little circles on the place the elm-tree pumps ought to be. And not just two - on the lower and upper gun deck - as shown in most models of three deckers and as to be found on the Vic in P. No there are 3 of them, see the blue circles. And as the plan has other minor omissions in other areas, I took the liberty to lead one of the pumps to the upper deck, see the green circle. now all decks have fresh sea water :-) So I prepared 3 pumps. Almost like the Dalton-Brothers from Lucky luke, just that Emmett/Averell is out looking for food ... ... and as the Daltons´trademark are the holes from pistol shots everywhere, my one is holes on wrong places, as I used the metal handle for small drills. This one was too thick and about 2 mm out of place, so reclose the hole and with Dr. dafis patented kebab-skewer-drill I was able too reach the furthest godforsaken area of the ship :-) XXXDAn

And it keeps hurting ... ... long time ago I proudly presented the pump ensemble ... http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/page-3#entry4419 ... but now, suddenly something was missing on the lower deck ... ...ouch...ouch...ouch... ...?!? Long time ago I realised a remark in Arming and Fitting that from about 1740 on, the ships were supplied with an extra set of pumps. First quests were begative, but then I discovered the described sets of pumps on almost all plans in the NMM, among them the plans of the Vic of 1788, showing the etxra pumps on the middle deck. http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79915.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79916.html http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/79917.html Here is a montage of the three decks of the pumps area One can nicely see the Layout: The single story pumps linked by the cistern, the double story pumps with a cistern each on the lower deck but not interconnected. But no technical details to be found. The only place showing the details is Rob Napier´s book about the contemporary model of the HMS PRINCESS ROYAL 1773. The linkage in between the two stories was in form of a well, all the lower deck cisterns have adapters for dales and the cranks of the single story pumps protrudes through the well of the two story pumps. Why this arrangement almost never is shown? The curse of the museums ship? So here we go adapting the pumps ... ... a touch of color, a tad of highlights and ink ... ...the clamps on the ships side for the dale´s round end pointing into the scupper, once open and once closed by a slider ... ... maneuvered onto its place ... ... and the pump ensemble shoved into its habitat too. Interesting is the way the dales go ... ... being quite close to then guns. That is why I do have the side entry port, for the nice view, and yes, I know, if the dale is fixed, the slider should have been taken off ... And now we go on and have to fix some new cranks and drill some scuppers ... ... so the thrill goes on :-) Lieber Gruß, Daniel

Nurse! - Scalpel - wadding - death certificate ... ... please put the patient up ... ... adjust field of view ... ... look for culprit ... ... aaaaaaaaaand - CUT!!! ... Dear Sirs and Madam, we proudly present bitstopper version 2. The old one - not only looking more alike a blopp than a stopper - was a great security risk: only the thin lanyard was fixed on the anchor cable ... http://pete-coleman.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1035&start=480#p14601 ... not very stable. The right way now seen means that the stopper is lashed directly onto the anchor cable, only the turks head looking out, the rest of the lanyard being wormed along the cable and secured Looks more heavy duty now ... ... also the bitstoppern ... ... and the dogstopper. And so we get a nice new picture :-) Sincerily, Daniel

As five hands sometimes are not enough for rigging, I build myself a small rigging bench. An inclined plane with a pin in the middle ... ... and two hairgrips on a holder. The holder can be fixed also pointing the other direction - or being left off - ... ... and even tiny bits can be worked on with ease :-) For serving small parts I included a hook on a thread. Turning the part in between the fingers, it is still nicely held under tension and does not wobble around :-) These are the nice bits one can do with it ... ... and even to be repeated precisely :-) Gruß, DAniel

As five hands sometimes are not enough for rigging, I build myself a small rigging bench. An inclined plane with a pin in the middle ... ... and two hairgrips on a holder. The holder can be fixed also pointing the other direction - or being left off - ... ... and even tiny bits can be worked on with ease :-) For serving small parts I included a hook on a thread. Turning the part in between the fingers, it is still nicely held under tension and does not wobble around :-) These are the nice bits one can do with it ... ... and even to be repeated precisely :-) Gruß, DAniel

The bosum´s mate´s whistle sounds across the deck ... ... I will make you spin, dirty old landlubbers, ... Jack, Ben and Phil are looking with astonishment. The head still heavy, but not from the lovely sound of the beautiful voice, no, much more from yesterdays rum in the cosy inn "at the funny anchor", where this lovely mate made them sign in, for a funny cruise with plenty of entertainment and great atmosphere. ... I will teach you, go to the crow´s nest, fetch some eggs for the captains breakfast ... And here they they find themselves standing on the messenger, supposed to pull it clear the capstan on the outgoing side ... Jack thinks ... Breakfast ?!? Eggs ?!? Can I have some too? ... Ben thinks ... what massage was I supposed to get? ... Phil thinks ... who is he talking too, this funny ol´man ... ... I will take you apart and reassemble you for new, even your mother won´t recognise you any longer ... ... and with a loud SQUACH Jack finds himself taken to pieces, lying helplessly on the deck, having NDE-kind of visions just ... ... just to find himself pulled back together again pulling the messenger. ... and I will fix your head ... Phil feels a strange pain in the back ... ... how I will have a hold on you, ... ... his knees shaking, after a first cut his knees went straight, after the second, leaving a deep cut, thats allows the knees to be bent more with some loving and tender brutality ... ... but he still was happy, as he saw Ben´s fate ... ... I will teach you what it means to show balls ... ... who, after a tender squeeze into the family jewels, opened his legs a tad more to have a better standing. Already more willing to show working position ... ... our three freshwater sailors reassemble themselves on the messenger, but the bosum´s mate only yells ... ... I ... WANNA ... SEE ... MORE ... ... with a friendly and sweet sounding whip of his starter accompanying each syllable. So the back leg bent even more to put more grip onto the front one ... ... and ... heave... heave ...heave ... ... and an unnoticeable smile deep on the inside of the mate´s sinister soul comes from enjoying the effects of HIS successful work :-) And how our three new-bees will become dirty, sweaty and stinking lowerdeck rats, this will be told in one of the future dafi´s sailor's yarn. XXXDAn

These are the words, that Maurice used when he got his little serving machine. So here comes my interpretation of it. Famous for my lifetime-supply of old Fischer-Technics (luckily my son never was interested in), it can be either turned by hand ... ... or the motor can be switched down. As it is works by friction and not by the gearwheel, the drive can be stopped easily while working just by holding the axis if any correction is needed I did not use hooks but tubes, a wire is used to get the lines through ... ... and the other side is hold by a toothpic squeezed into the tube. Like this I can shift the serving area to the left or right if longer distances are needed. First tests on the trials of the mainstay show a nice result, still showing the structure underneath. But it not just works for the big ones, here are the tests for the thinner ropes, this one 0,5 mm thick. Here some serving tests. Right the 3/0 fly fishing yarn with the charm of dental floss - very uncool. On the left my usual 8/0 yarn, much better :-) After serving a touch of CA on the ends, still some diluted white glue along the sausage. And juch-huui! Still tried the 6/0 one, the black one on the right, that is a tad thicker and goes therefore faster in serving, that it will be. Also tried the direction of serving. Going with the cuntlines - here serving rightwards - results in the serving line getting stuck in the groove and running of, like seen on the right side of the orange one. So always against the cuntlines, that it means :-) And the result? The modelling ropes have the bad habit to flatten if taken around sharp turns. Totally uncool. Not with Dr. dafis non-patented serving machine! Here a rope of 0,5 mm wraps itself gently around a 0,5 mm drill and nicely keeps its form. And smaller parts? No prob, if well planned, some of these can be ... ... nicely placed on the same line like Münchhausens duck hunting :-) So have a nice day until it will be shouted again: "Mom, he did it again!!!" Sincereily, dafi PS: This kind of machines can be found in many variations on the net, either to buy or DIY. But this was a great opportunity to proove dear darling wife that it was a wise decision to keep all these items in the cellar, and not to sell, swoop, give as present - or even through away - already many years ago ... XXXDAN

"A machine that will serve me well" These are the words, that B.E. used when he got his little serving machine. So here comes my interpretation of it. Famous for my lifetime-supply of old Fischer-Technics (luckily my son never was interested in), it can be either turned by hand ... ... or the motor can be switched down. As it is works by friction and not by the gearwheel, the drive can be stopped easily while working just by holding the axis if any correction is needed I did not use hooks but tubes, a wire is used to get the lines through ... ... and the other side is hold by a toothpic squeezed into the tube. Like this I can shift the serving area to the left or right if longer distances are needed. First tests on the trials of the mainstay show a nice result, still showing the structure underneath. But it not just works for the big ones, here are the tests for the thinner ropes, this one 0,5 mm thick. Here some serving tests. Right the 3/0 fly fishing yarn with the charm of dental floss - very uncool. On the left my usual 8/0 yarn, much better :-) After serving a touch of CA on the ends, still some diluted white glue along the sausage. And juch-huui! Still tried the 6/0 one, the black one on the right, that is a tad thicker and goes therefore faster in serving, that it will be. Also tried the direction of serving. Going with the cuntlines - here serving rightwards - results in the serving line getting stuck in the groove and running of, like seen on the right side of the orange one. So always against the cuntlines, that it means :-) And the result? The modelling ropes have the bad habit to flatten if taken around sharp turns. Totally uncool. Not with Dr. dafis non-patented serving machine! Here a rope of 0,5 mm wraps itself gently around a 0,5 mm drill and nicely keeps its form. And smaller parts? No prob, if well planned, some of these can be ... ... nicely placed on the same line like Münchhausens duck hunting :-) So have a nice day until it will be shouted again: "Mom, he did it again!!!" Sincereily, dafi PS: This kind of machines can be found in many variations on the net, either to buy or DIY. But this was a great opportunity to proove dear darling wife that it was a wise decision to keep all these items in the cellar, and not to sell, swoop, give as present - or even through away - already many years ago ... XXXDAN

Known for my non linear working scheme, I tackled something I was pushing for a while, the lettering for the figurehead. After long search I found the (possibly) smallest letters available. After all these years of building the first PE ;-) First a template to get a feeling for the space and needed sizes ... ... and really it is the smallest of the set ... ... after cutting the letters I placed them on the backside of a Post-it, as this one glues not too heavily. Then side 1 "Honi soit q(ui)", the last two letters underneath the volute ... ... and side 2 "mal y pense" . For glueing I gave up the CA quite fast, and came back to the hint to try paint. The best was the matt varnish I had for my decks. But not easy to cut without zoing and free ticket to nowhere, and placing on the right place before the paint is too dry ... And afterwards the next task: the letters on the side of the stem. Creating some cleanroom atmosphere ... ... and after some nerve wrecking long moments, tada ... ... "Dieu et mon Droit", ... ... and a last one to enjoy. Amicalement, Daniel

As usual, the last details always need most attention and especially work ... Whaddat? A dogstopper. Where from? From deep inside, there where fixing bits on bitts is the most fun, located at number 2. And it is rather clear immediately. As the turns around the bitts won´t give enough grip for the anchor cable, the cable is further held by several stoppers. The dogstopper secures the incoming side of the cable against the outgoing side before and after the bitt. In front of it we have the bittstopper, alternatively done without the short strop and lashed directly against the bitt ... ... and behind we have n# 3, 4 and 5 three deckstoppers, short strop against an eyebolt and with a thinner rope for lashing. This thinner rope is turned around several times inside the cuntline before being lashed up. Greetings, Daniel

And what does one do if one has almost a cable length of anchor rope and some movable manger boards ? Of course one tries out things :-) And what? The last pictures show the anchor rope tight and well clear the manger boards. Usually with the guns run out, everything looks neat, tidy and spacious. With the guns lashed it becomes already more tight. But what with the cables prepared for throwing the anchor? Hihihihihihihi... So here we go ... ... the tensioned anchor cables clear above the manger boards. But some time ago, I already did put up some heretical questions: - the boards of the manger are not constructed in a way that a heavy anchor cable can rub over them. - several sources claim the manger´s boards to be removable for what purpose? - for what purpose were they taken out? - why are they usually shown as a permanent fix? While preparing came out Goodwins new book Victorys "Owners´ Workshop Manual" that gives a nice describtion on how to prepare to throw an anchor - Clear the deck. But I kept the guns lashed (Lets suppose we have a heavy sea and do not want to unleash them). - The sides of the manger were taken out! HA!!! That is why I made them removable, I knew it!!! - The starboard side anchor cable is stored on the port side because of handling. So bring it up the gundeck and flake it out in long loops along the deck, in a way that it can´t get jammed. HA!!! That is why I made my cable that long!!! - When the required length is laid out, fix the rope around the bitts and add some stoppers in front and back of the bitts (missing in the pictures still) - If not done yet take a smaller messenger cable and get the cable through the hawser holes to to be fixed on the anchor. Then comes a series of sailing manouvers . Then the anchor is let go and the rope can run out the hawser holes and uncoil easily throughout the deck without rubbing against any manger boards. Like this it makes finally sense to me :-) Finetuning still welcome! And this is how it looks like: Starboard manger boards taken out ... ... uand the long hanks down the deck. This is almost a cable length. And some more pics for pleasure and fun. And suddenly, it doesn´t look that spacious and clear any more ;-) As a guide the length of the cable should be 3 times the depth of water if I understood right. The free end of this cable shown here on deck is 150 meters, so the water shoud be 40 to 50 meters deep. The Cable length of about 183 meters came out of the length of the old ropewalks. If longer cables were needed for deeper water, two cables had to be spliced together. Than we would have had about 9 hanks instead of the five here shown on the pictures. I think this should be still possible space wise. Sincerily, Daniel

Thank you Pete :-) And off we go. Took out the capstans and replaced them slightly to give better use of the lenghts of the bars. Like this the bars can be 0,5 meters longer, but the main capstan in front of the mizzen mast is limited by the rigging of the rudder, resulting in quite short bars. And with two anchor cables fitted it looks rather clean and neat ... ... several stoppers still missing ... ... and the manger. Cheers, Daniel

Shaving horses, what a fun :-) Seen the shaving horse some years ago on the V. in P., the nice officer that guided me, explained how it works. Long time gone since and many details forgotten, it was a nice hunt to find out the details again. Serving as a workbench for holding the object to work on, it consists of a board with feet and a small bench on top to hold the work piece (the darker bit on top) ... ... and a pivoting frame that holds down the work piece by the push of the legs. For working the drawknife is pulled towards the body of the craftsman. Skilled craftsman could easily produce round battens on it without having to use a lath. And again, a small bit of ancient craftsmanship is understood :-) :-) :-) Wikipedia sayz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaving_horse ... and the noble officer on the original horse as shown on the Vic. I used the chance to enhale a little bit of life into my mallet-man. And after some moments with only me, him and the brush I was shure: His name only can be Thor :-) Lieber Gruß, Daniel PS: Just to make sure - Thor has nothing to do with shaving horses, he just did fine on the pictures ... ... and he still is missing his duty ;-)

Let me put together all the guesses I received for the little tools purpose: - for calling the big kraken to get more bamboo skewers - juice maker, as the brits were called Limeys - winemaker for the captain´s port - jack for excanging the steeringwheel - torture: stretching bed or thumbscrew - olive press - garbich press - nutcracker king-size for coconuts - tool to inflate the ship in harbour to save tax - archimedes screw for the bilge - ship biscuit juicer to liquefy maggots - tool to iron captain´s uniform - dvice for fine adjustment of the water line - sealing leakages / repairing beams The last point I would have said yes, that too for sure :-) And here is the sweet bit in it´s natural habitat: It is in deed the jack to lift the deck beams in order to remove and put back the stanchions that are in the way of the capstans bars. Blaise Olivier describes them well with the dry comment, that the french system with iron bars on hinges is far more practical ... All the best, Daniel

Let me put together all the guesses I received for the little tools purpose: - for calling the big kraken to get more bamboo skewers - juice maker, as the brits were called Limeys - winemaker for the captain´s port - jack for excanging the steeringwheel - torture: stretching bed or thumbscrew - olive press - garbich press - nutcracker king-size for coconuts - tool to inflate the ship in harbour to save tax - archimedes screw for the bilge - ship biscuit juicer to liquefy maggots - tool to iron captain´s uniform - dvice for fine adjustment of the water line - sealing leakages / repairing beams The last point I would have said yes, that too for sure :-) And here is the sweet bit in it´s natural habitat: It is in deed the jack to lift the deck beams in order to remove and put back the stanchions that are in the way of the capstans bars. Blaise Olivier describes them well with the dry comment, that the french system with iron bars on hinges is far more practical ... All the best, Daniel

...hihihihi... ...couldn´t resist ... ...hihihihi... :-) XXXDAn

Dear Kevin :-) It really is present since entry 75!!! Just for the records! ...hihihihihi... Lieber Gruß, Daniel :-)

Hello Kevin, look at the pictures atop :-) Did you mistake it for an ostrich egg? ...hihihihi... Daniel