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As always, if curious, have to try out ... ... easy to see, it is getting tight. One place has to stay free because of the hanging knee. Still missing some jugs and a handful of barrels and the duffels in the corners. There were about 800 seamen living, eating and sleeping on the area of the decks, means 400 each deck. As the aft was reserved for ranks so the remaining area was about 12 guns long each side. This makes a count of 400 / 12 / 2 and gives about 17 people each mess. So I understand the shift system with the watches, as there is maximum space for 11 or 13 people on the table. All those 17 people´s belonging had most possibly also to be stored in that confined space ... ... just some thoughts ... DAniel
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... these ones?!? ...hihihihihi.... Thank you Sirs, but cleared for action is the most boring one in my opinion - just guns and their equipment, everything else stripped ... ...boooooring ;-) Daniel
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Here we went on in the lower deck, getting tighter ... ...first table dummies ... ... followed by some real model making ... ... first sitting trials ... ... and tight we go. bom apetite! XXXDAn
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The usual stunning research and execution :-) Bravo!!! With a deep bow, DAniel
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Hello Robin and Fortres, thank you for the pictures above :-) There are some glitches in Turners drawing of December 05. I do not know if these things are really guns, there is much discussion about it. Also the position of three of them on the poop rails is quite uncommon. Also are to be seen woolings on the mizzen - repairs from Gibraltar still as the great repair was done with iron loops? Some guessing was done, if he did the drawing on board - it seems to have snow and therefor was cold - or if he finished or even did completely by memory afterwards in the studio. Turner was in first place an artist, and reality had to step back behind the artistic expression. See the first painting of the ship of the line, how exaggerated the heights are - looks like a 12 story building, people standing in the gunports ... Also the last painting was quite controversial if I remember well - it was a contract work by the marine and he melted several stages of the combat into one picture - not to the delight of his clients ... All the best, Daniel
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... functioning flintlocks ... ... ?!? ... ...hmmmm... When I was in Austria start of this year I had the great honor in meeting with Willi Meischl, wunderful modelmaker and weapon collector. He showed me an english marine trombone with working flints. I did not miss the chance and got a nice shot of it while flashing with both states: Arm back and the small cover protecting the powder closed and arm in front with the cover swung open and the egnition. Fascinating as agood friend of mine would say ;-) Thanks Jan and Popeye!, Daniel PS: Here is a link to Wiilis page http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite64.html and his York http://www.schifferlbauer.at/seite16.html
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After my small sidekick ... http://modelshipworl...-display/page-4 ... a quick return to my main project as the cap-squares arrived yesterday :-) Immediately build the template ... ... and assembled :-) Also the gunlocks ... ... almost to small to be pictured, but still managed to fix them easily by using the sprue to be inserted in a hole underneath. So mission accomplished, the guns are completed :-) And with ease I managed to triple the number of parts for each gun from 7 to 21 ... Hurray Best regards, sincerily, Daniel
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No this was still before ... ... the camera refused to take pictures afterwards as being believed to be too disturbing ... ;-) XXXDAn
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The mess and sailors chests ... A lot of contemporary pictures show sailors sitting on their chests while having their meals on the tables that were hung up from the deck beams. Most AOTS and the Vic in P. show benches to sit on instead. This gives me some of my usual intriguing questions: - Was the use of benches something special in the navy for that in case of clearing for combat there were no hundrets of chests to be removed into the hold? - Were bags used instead like in the sketch of AOTS Bellona? - Were their any chests for the common sailors on the RN? - Were chests used at the merchant vessels or smaller RN vessels where they did not interfere with gun exercise? - Were the cupboard plates and the barrels removed in case of exercising? How did everything did not get messed up or broken? - was the table always fixed to the inboard hull or was it sometimes left swinging by a second rope to avoid spilling? Thank you for any hints, Daniel
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I think you are doing all right :-) The overlap is difficult as the material is far to thick in scale. Some modelers use hand made plates with the rivets just on two sides in L-shape and not on all four sides, thus implementing the overlap. If you look at historic coppering, the overlap is almost not visible - as are the nails :-) Here a picture that wefalk shot at the HMS Garnet and showed here some time ago: http://www.wefalck.eu/mm/maritime/chatham/100220-72.jpg Cheers, Daniel
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I love Halloween, the kids used to run off in panic three blocks away ... ... perhaps I should have worn a costume with mask ;-) Thanks for the nice feedbacks, Daniel
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Thank you all! My pleasure - building and enjoying your comments :-) Very appreciated! Daniel
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Thank you Sirs :-) Big M.: The only thing to envy me are my specs - 3 dioptrine with build in LED for 5€ from the supermarket ;-) XXXDAN
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Thank you Aldo, Andy, Popeye, Chris and all the others, very appreciated :-) So the next quantum leap, means lot of work for shortest distance possible ;-) Next were the gunport lid topping lifts. A blackened 0,3 mm copper wire wound around a 1 mm needle and cut into rings. For the next steps I skipped the tweezers and used fine pliers from the electro department, thus reducing the free flights of the parts enormously ! After some tests I did like follow: As the thread was to thin to do a real splice, I held the ring with the pliers ... ... some CA in the U-turn of the tread and twisted counter clockwise ... .. to get a well enough splice imitation. Then positiond the ring, hooked in ... ... closed with the pliers ... ... and the lift is in place :-) The original idea was to imitate the small tube that enters the hull with diluted PVA but now I wanted to try something more tricky. Some time ago I already presented the trick, that heated and pulled sprue keeps the proportion of its section. So I prepared a 4 mm sprue by drilling a center hole of 2 mm, fixed toothpicks on its ends ... ... and slowly heated it up and pulled to the wanted diameter ... ... then cut 3 mm pieces and fiddeld them on a 0,1 mm copper wire to avoid unwanted escapes. In the front the test topping lift. Then drilled 0,7 mm holes for the tubes pointing 45° upwards, inserted the tubes, glued them in and cut them to the necessary length ... ... used a needle to reopen the squeezed holes, put the lift in and glued it by fixing with the needle. And it looks like this: With a little more practice it will for shure look even tidier macro wise, but for the naked eye it already works :-) Cheers, Daniel
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Thank you Lawrence and Gil! I love the "very serious" bending jig :-) Thank you for posting! Here is my "very toyful" jig Lieber Gruß, Daniel
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Thank you Dirk, Kats, Mark, Popeye, Paul, Jan and "Bones" :-) :-) :-) I am already wondering, but nobody dares asking about the title of the thread ;-) ... okokok, before I have to wait too long: dafi, what strange thread title you have ?!? Once upon a time, the shout from the channels was to be heard "By the Deep 17" meaning a little more than 17 fathoms of water were measured, roundabout 30 meters. The line used was ca. 20 to 25 fathoms long (about 36 to 45 meters) and had marks indicating the depth measured. So the shout "By the Mark XX" meant that it was exactely on the mark and "By the Deep XX" meant it to be above the mark. The marks were at 2, 3, 5, 7, 10, 13, 15, 17 und 20 fathoms (after Nares) and had : 2 fathoms leather with 2 stripes, 3 fathoms leather with 3 stripes, 5 fathoms white, 7 fathoms red, 10 fathoms leather with hole 13 fathoms blue, 15 fathoms white, 17 fathoms red und 20 fathoms two knots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sounding_line So hastily made the 20 fathom line, fitted marks and lead ... ... and the sound of the falling lead could be heard :-) "By the Deep ..." XXXDAn
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