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shiloh got a reaction from lambsbk in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
He has a good start, 'even has left a handle to hang on to'. Like every other carver, all he needs to do now, is remove everything that doesn't look like a ladder.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
He has a good start, 'even has left a handle to hang on to'. Like every other carver, all he needs to do now, is remove everything that doesn't look like a ladder.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from Jack12477 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
He has a good start, 'even has left a handle to hang on to'. Like every other carver, all he needs to do now, is remove everything that doesn't look like a ladder.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from Canute in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Suspect that you will get it all together and be content with what you have done. This model will be one talked about and used as a reference for a long time, along with this build log. Second guessing and hindsight will happen as new data sources are discovered, but applying common sense and keeping in mind the room needed to operate the various fittings, as you have done, will keep conflicts with future data discovery at a minimum.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from Canute in Modifications to a Dremel Belt/Disk Sander
Now your table edge will run in an arc with the new pin lock as the radius point and preventing the pins from sliding in the slot. Those slots were what allowed the table to use the thumb nuts as pivot points. Using the thumb nut bolts to pivot and the slots allowing movement is you keep the table edge close to the wheel when adjusting larger angles. The guard modification should do as intended and looks like a good Idea.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from GLakie in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
He has a good start, 'even has left a handle to hang on to'. Like every other carver, all he needs to do now, is remove everything that doesn't look like a ladder.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from CaptainSteve in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Suspect that you will get it all together and be content with what you have done. This model will be one talked about and used as a reference for a long time, along with this build log. Second guessing and hindsight will happen as new data sources are discovered, but applying common sense and keeping in mind the room needed to operate the various fittings, as you have done, will keep conflicts with future data discovery at a minimum.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from Canute in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
He has a good start, 'even has left a handle to hang on to'. Like every other carver, all he needs to do now, is remove everything that doesn't look like a ladder.
jud
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shiloh reacted to Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Count me in, Henry. I have your number (I think).
Here is another question (and I am full of them). Sand was used on the gun and top deck before a battle to aid in traction (I believe). The drawing provided by Dan shows 'sand lockers' on both sides of the hold. Great; close to the main hatch, and easy to haul up.
But, was the sand loose or in gurney sacks, and how big? Interesting to add to the hold in front of my model eventually.
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shiloh got a reaction from Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Suspect that you will get it all together and be content with what you have done. This model will be one talked about and used as a reference for a long time, along with this build log. Second guessing and hindsight will happen as new data sources are discovered, but applying common sense and keeping in mind the room needed to operate the various fittings, as you have done, will keep conflicts with future data discovery at a minimum.
jud
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shiloh reacted to mtaylor in Deck clamp notches
Thomas,
Try fitting the clamp to the hull then drill several holes (exact size of the pin) and pin them to the hull. Removing the clamp and re-pinning should return the clamp to the exact spot. You can then mark the slots and pare them and return the clamp to the exact location. I think Danny V. and EdT use this method. I'll be giving it a shot when I get to that point.
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shiloh got a reaction from GLakie in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Suspect that you will get it all together and be content with what you have done. This model will be one talked about and used as a reference for a long time, along with this build log. Second guessing and hindsight will happen as new data sources are discovered, but applying common sense and keeping in mind the room needed to operate the various fittings, as you have done, will keep conflicts with future data discovery at a minimum.
jud
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shiloh reacted to Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Wayne, officially the use was outlawed in the 1970's, but here is part of an article published by the National Institute of Health in the US.
'Lead pipes for carrying drinking water were well recognized as a cause of lead poisoning by the late 1800s in the United States. By the 1920s, many cities and towns were prohibiting or restricting their use.'
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shiloh reacted to Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
The relocation of the oven and riding bits has caused some major changes in the rest of this model. Some for the better, as it turns out.
The extended hatches on the gun and berth deck now will have stairs so that it will be possible to go from the top (spar) deck down to the orlop deck and hold.
The picture below shows the large hatch on top (along with the hatch for the stove pipe) then there is the gun deck hatch with still a high cowling because of the wet deck, and then the berth deck with a lower cowling. Counting the two hatches in the orlop deck that go down into the magazine (covered with the solid board and hole), this thing will have six hatches.
I still have to make the three long gratings that are missing below. The filler piece and hatch for the orlop deck are still loose and I have to add more planking towards the bow, but I am holding off until I get a better fix on the light and powder rooms. I should add that there will be walls along the port side indicating the 'carpenter's walk' and the storage room. The height has to be determined during assembly, just like those in the magazine/powder room. But I do have a door waiting for that.
The alignment of the hatches on the gun and berth deck will be critical because of the stairs, but I have an idea how to help that situation and will show that later.
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shiloh reacted to woodrat in Ship's bell in mediaeval ships
Thanks Jud and Crackers.
I would still love to know more. This would be a great Ph.D thesis for some aspiring nautical archaeologist
Dick
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shiloh reacted to augie in USS Constitution by lambsbk – Revell – 1/96 - PLASTIC – With Fiber Optics
I share your pain in covering up the gun deck. My Confederacy is similar and Chuck's design calls for leaving off (completely) sections of the quarter and fore decks. I know Sam's Essex design (MS) does pretty much the same thing. They each have full deck beams however.
Be interested to see what you come up with.
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shiloh got a reaction from mtaylor in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Don't believe that type of pump was used to build pressure to fight fire, maybe used to fill a bucket. It would take 3 or more of those pumps ganged with very well kept seals and valves to build pressure and hold in a pressure tank to do that. It does not look like original equipment. If being used to pump from a cask of water, the cask would need to be vented or open. Years ago my brother and I were charged with filling the shower for the harvest crew. That was where I now live, but not then. The old homestead house was here but no pressurized water. Water flowed from an artisan spring, down a ditch to a horse trough, drinking water was caught at the spring and never reached the ditch. The old hand pump was mounted on the side of the trough and we used it to fill buckets that we carried up a ladder to a 55 gallon drum. Done in the early morning so the sun would heat the shower water, a valve and shower head, wooden deck and curtains completed the water works.
jud
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shiloh got a reaction from mtaylor in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Could all of that been used as a vent for the pump and provide for a head, so air is not spitting out at the hose bib. Might also been used to prime the pump? Real frustration to find the priming water gone, when needing drink.
jud
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shiloh reacted to lambsbk in USS Constitution by lambsbk – Revell – 1/96 - PLASTIC – With Fiber Optics
I have been putting so much effort into this gun deck that I find it increasingly troublesome to think of shutting it completely in...I did not believe I would feel this way and in fact previously had no misgivings about it at all. I think seeing the final result is giving me these misgivings. So now, at this stage in the build no less, I am musing ways to expose this deck somehow. Kimathm (on this forum) had suggested re-doing the deck in clear plastic. The thought was a possibility with styrene. Although the entire deck seems a bit much I am seriously thinking of working a piece up and replacing the fore portion of the Revell spar deck. That area has a lot of gun deck furniture and could probably be shaped. That would expose the camboose, cable bitts, and more. A manger might have to be worked up and maybe even a messenger cable. Thinking... Thinking...
Dave
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shiloh reacted to DanO in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Jay,
Some years ago I had aquired a CD from the Naval Attachement assigned to USS Constitution which is now available through their book store.
http://museumstore.navyhistory.org/CD-Constitution-Plans-p/618.htm
I found it to contain a wealth of information for a meager $15.00.
Dan
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shiloh reacted to Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Wowwww, Dan, that is interesting. I'll take a closer look at the plumbing, but it seems that my original thought was correct. It is a fresh water pump. Also I am not surprised that it is about 100 years old (or less). Electric lights and motors were probably not yet aboard at that time, hence the hand pump.
The 'lead pipes' were probably removed because of being made of lead, but the connections to the boiling pots on the stove are still visible. So, my guess is that the hand pump on the berth deck did supply fresh water from the hold to the oven. This is an interesting side line.
Can you tell from the first drawing you found if the plumbing on both sides had something to do with fire control or 'sanitation'? I don't think those had anything to do with fresh water. Just curious, what was your source?
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shiloh reacted to DanO in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Jay ,
I have done a little more reasearch and found the attached on a plan from 07/02/1931 'Drainage, Flooding, Fresh Water, and sanitary piping"
0930 Orlop
0929 Berth
0928 Gun
Hope this helps
Dan
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shiloh reacted to Izzy Madd in Gluing Techniques and Associated Information
Heard it seen it and wished I'd never seen CA. and to get as far ten years is lucky. As it crystallises over time and those crystals are bigger than the original joint very much like rust. Also it breaks down on contact with moisture. Such as humidity. Probably because it was designed to. As its only good use is for sticking soldiers back together until they get to the MASH unit. Circa 1970’s and Vietnam. It also has an exothermic reaction so can in some extreme cases melt plastic parts then there is the fogging. Easy to get around but still there. And it runs ever where or soaks right through. Changing the colour and texture completely. And if used for rigging no matter how small an a out used it will wick. So you then have a rigging line where part is hard as steel. Or melted. IMO only use it as a temporary hold before using real glues.
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shiloh reacted to popeye2sea in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
Next time I get aboard I will have to check that pump out. You know, for all the times I have been down there and seen that pump, I never paid attention to the hose coming out of the top and where it might lead. I am always learning new stuff about this ship.
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shiloh reacted to Modeler12 in USS Constitution by Modeler12 - Cross-Section - Bow Area
I agree with you Jud. I also spent some time on an old farm where the only source of fresh water were two hand pumps. They were about two times the diameter of the one we are talking about and provided water into a bucket (in spurts). Each up and down stroke yielded less than a gallon of water. The pressure was nill.
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