dragzz

thank u canoe21  if was not for the msw fourms and the great poeple here to help me i would have not started in this great hobby thank u all for all your great help

I decided to finish off the stern by doing the rear gun port lids and false cannon, and adding better doors at the top of the transom between the grotesques.  The kit provides plastic port lids.  They have a raised center section with lions embossed on the top.  The lions are quite nice actually, although they need a dark wash to bring out the detail (otherwise they look more like bears than lions).
 
Since the lids are supposed to be unpainted wood, I couldn't use the kit parts as provided.  Instead, I cut the edges off, leaving only the center section, which needs to be painted completely.  I thinned the section down a bit, then built the port lids from three strips of 3mm mahogany laid edgewise.
 
Here are the port lids and decorations prior to painting.  You can see the lid prior to and after cutting off the edges:
 

 
I then spray primed all the lids at once, with a medium flat yellow ("Demon Flesh" miniature primer, if you are interested :-).  After that, I put a thin layer of pale yellow on the lion heads, and followed that with a dull ochre wash.  The result picks out the lion mane and other details rather nicely.  Add a red mouth and red for the remainder of the lid, and I was done.  The painted decorations on the wood lid work out rather nicely, I think.
 
The cannon were sprayed with flat black primer, then washed with dark bronze.  Here's the result:
 

 
Then on to the doors.  What I did originally was simply scribe lines on the base of the transom and paint the result red.  It looked OK, but the "doors" were recessed and I decided I wanted them flush.  So I scratched some doors from pieces of wood and dropped them in the recessed, then painted them.  Here's a photo of the finished stern:
 

 
 
 
 
 

heres a bit more done slow but getting there
 
 

Beautiful planking job.

hello jpett   here are some pics from a book that i have its called plank on frame models volume 2 from harold a underhill just trying to help here it is the pic are of hms vic scale   1/150  hope it helps
 
 

heres a bit more done slow but getting there
 
 

Aha --- the mystery has been solved.  We can all sleep tonight!

heres a bit more done slow but getting there
 
 

vary nice work u have done there cant wait to see it all done

Hi Matti...
 
all the mates said it before: A GREAT Job on the Wasa so far. The planking and now the ratlines - you are a master of this work. And I really love the Kind of photography you do on your ship. The natural light gives he hull a more realistic view than any artifical light can do.
 
Cheerio my friend
 
Max

Hey all! Ok so I made the ratlines for the starboard side of the mainmast. Lots of beginner misstakes, but it was quite enjoyable work. To be honest shaping the dead eyes and metal parts for them was more challenging on the nerves as there where many stages. Once these are on you have a result. I like that as it gives energy to continue. I decided to do not go by a template, but did them freehand, by the eye and tried to look at the reference instead. I did end up with more rows then the original at the museum.
 
I still need to weather the ratlines and give a light coat of varnish to hide the CA but this is where Ï'm at now.
 

 

 

 

 

 
 
/Matti

The plans are good for this stage, but I couldn't get the exact details where the lower mast phases into the middle mast. The stuff is "stacked" on the drawing so I had to slide pre built components up and down to get them to match the master drawing. Now, it's just making sure I position the rest in the correct place.

Ahoy Mates
 
Bob: What a pleasure to have you aboard. As I think I have told you before but will mention it again. It was your original Bluenose log that got me interested in this hobby. It has a greatly influenced me on how I post my builds. So there you have it. We can all blame Bob 
 
Back to the build 
 
Ahh the mystery deepens 
 
Planking is proceeding well. I am half way through my first belt. Without jinxing myself I would like to report that planking Corel's Victory so far has been an absolute pleasure. The supplied wood for the first layer bends like licorice after soaking for 15 minutes and then being worked over my PVC and pill bottle.  
 
Not so pleasurable but more like solving hieroglyphics prior to finding the one ring to rule them all; or was that a stone, has been Corel's instructions. To further exacerbate the mystery of the stern post I bring you this tidbit I found last night. 
 
On the very bottom of this image on plate 5, it shows #15 which is the rear and mid section of the plywood keel. Covering this on three sides is a piece of #33 which you can see also covers the lower half of the hull. It is the finish planking which means that the plywood keel is to be covered. While you might think this is a good thing, and it does solve the stern post debacle it now becomes a not so good thing in the bow. I have not yet found any images showing the large expanse of wood representing the bow/cut water of the plywood keel covered; nor does the kit include any wood wide enough to achieve this.
 
Either way I will have to take this one step at a time. Thankfully I have a few months to work this out. If anyone wants to spoil my little mystery by exposing the secret, please feel free to use my log. 

hello mobbsie  welcome to my dry dock  i never thot of that thanks for the info .i did pre drill the holes in that planks the nails are small 

Ahoy Mates
 
Scott: Yes, its an ADHD thing 
 
Sjors: Thx, not too sure about the falling thing though. 
 
Dragzz: Taking time is something I don't have a problem with. Now taking too much time, that is a different story. Slow would be an exaggeration to explain my progress.
 
 
Back to the build
 
Planking has commenced. I have found that planking is one of my favorite things to do in shipbuilding
 
I spent a lot of time making sure the first two planks which represent the last wale plank were correct. I knew from my last endeavor that this first plank would determine the run of ship. Normal procedure in my shipyard seems to be to do one side, followed by the other. Then after doing the second side finding flaws with the first and redoing it. Actually it went even further here: After making corrections to the first I then proceeded to find more things on the second (see pics). As I stated getting this right and starting off on the right foot is "to me" very important. Any time spent making these repairs always comes back to me during planking. I am not a big fan of this work but I know that it lets me enjoy the planking stage. 
 
One of my fixes was to raise the point in the bow. Although I took careful measurements from the plans and spent some time on it: it just did not look correct. I made the call to go with what I "with lack my experience" thought was correct and not what I was seeing on the plans. I am sure there will be retribution but this is the first layer of planking; and we have some room to experiment. My adjustments in the last post did reduce the klinkering but not enough and the planks that followed let me know if I did not change this I would be spiling sooner then I would prefer. 
 
In the pics you will also see that I have started on the cannon supports which also do not follow the plans. This was me just being stupid. I am not sure if this mistake will cause a problem but will need to check these after the first layer of planking. I really need to develop a habit of referring to the plans more before I start anything. I did look at the plans , just not all of them. Checking this sheet is even mentioned in the little book which makes my mistake even dumber.
 
 What I did was to measure the height of the gunport and put the wood between the bulkheads at that height on both bulkheads and at a depth 8mm or 5/16" on center. It should be fine where there is a single gunport between the bulkheads but might require a correction on any that have two. What I missed was the wood should not be at the same height on each bulkhead. Thankfully the port supports I have completed so far are in an area that has very little sweep. I also used a full length filler where the entry is supposed to be. The plans show this has a half filler which I will not be doing. I could hear it rattling inside the hull after I knocked it off. After I finished with the planking off course. I will have to give this some more thought. The rest of these will need to follow the sweep which will make them considerably harder to install. I am not good at measuring and then cutting angles but I guess it is time to improve that skill too.  I also have the first two that I installed which are 2mm too low to contend with. These are not easily removed and I am thinking of recessed holes or washers to adjust the cannons should they need it. I can always remove/cut out the planking around that bulkhead if I remember to check them before starting the second layer.  
 
In the pics you will see that I am following Chucks planking method using the fan and tick strips to mark every plank. I made a slight change where he uses string to create the belts. I like the 1/32 by 3/32 basswood. It tends to let me know how much klinkering my paths will cause and allows me to adjust them to reduce it. It was here that I made the call to change my first plank. I am going with 3 belts 7, 7 and 8 planks. For anyone following this build that equals 22 which is considerably less then shown on the plans. This difference has caused me a bit of a conundrum in the stern as I do not know how to plot the planks here. My measurements tell me that the space I need to cover here is equal to the width of 25.5 planks.  Where this totally confused me on my first build I now know that because the planks will be terminating here at an angle their widths will be greater. This does not however mean I know at what width and where so I will be winging this area on this first layer. It will be a learning experience that thankfully I have the good fortune to experience and then cover with the second layer. I was hoping for a drop plank in the bow but my measurements tell me otherwise. I purposely measured for one less plank where the filler meets the keel on the first belt to cause one. 
 
I am also using a plane to shape the planks. A really cheap POS I found at home depot and spent a few hours tuning. I might upgrade it. I am really hoping to improve my skills with this tool, I really don't see how they could get any worst. I am enjoying it but can see I need a jig of some sort to hold the plank. That and cheap ones really are worthless. At least this one is
 
Planking in the stern is also not as bad as I expected. The planks don't seem to mind the bend I have created for them. I use a piece of PVC pipe first then switch to a prescription pill bottle to preform them. I actually have found that if work them, bending them repeatedly around my forms; flipping them over and bending them in both direction they soften up and have no problems with the complexly of this stern.   I am also using a rather large pin that I predrill and actually hammer in to persuade planks. I need to miss less with the hammer. The pins leave a rather large hole  that is perfect for a treenail. We all know how much I like tree nails. Not as much as I like beer but it is on that list. 

 
Thanks for stopping by and comments are welcome. Please do not hesitate to critique my work. All I ask is that it is constructive 

Hi Dragzz,
 
She's coming together nicely mate, the planking is looking really good. Be careful though not to punch the pins in to deep or you could damage the planking when you remove them.
 
If you can get hold of some collard pins and secure the second planking by pushing the pins below the plank so that it is held by the collar, just a suggestion mate. Hope you don't mind.
 
Be Good
 
mobbsie

here u can see i got some planks on so far looking great time will tell 
 
 
 

here u can see i got some planks on so far looking great time will tell 
 
 
 

here i go with the last stage of planking heres a little bit of it done so far so good 
 
 

here in the pic u will i have went and made my on jig for plank bending  its work real good for just put plank in water for 10mins then put it in the jig and use me heat gun on it then its all done works great
 
 

u have done such a great job on the wasa i have the billing wasa . keep up the great work that u are doing

here u can see i got some planks on so far looking great time will tell 
 
 
 

here i go with the last stage of planking heres a little bit of it done so far so good 
 
 

here it is just got to let it dry now
 
 
 

vary nice work that u are doing keep it  up