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EJ_L
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EJ_L reacted to JSGerson in Rattlesnake by KenW - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 - American Privateer
I didn't double-up my bobstay. I didn't know at the time I rigged it that it should have been because both the Mamoli and the MS plans did not show it that way. You did good.
According to Jame Lees' The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War the splice (which needs to be made on the model) lay in the grove of the heart (or deadeye). You placed it in the stem, but it won't matter except for the purest because in either case it will be hidden.
I don't know how you made your splice, but when I have to make them, I unravel the two ends, butt them together so that the loose strands overlap and lie on the other's end. I then apply some diluted PVC glue and hold with my fingers until nothing comes apart when I let go. I've have problems of them coming apart if the dilution is too thin. In this case because the line is served, I would leave a length of serving thread to continue the wrap around the splice which also gives it physical strength.
Nice work
Jon
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EJ_L reacted to KenW in Rattlesnake by KenW - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 - American Privateer
I started rigging with the bobstay. According to Antscherl’s Fully Framed Model, the bobstay is both served and doubled. I’ve never done either before. I purchased the Serve-o-Matic from Syren and while I made some errors putting it together, it works fine. In order to double the stay, I had to figure out how to splice the two ends of the served line in order to make a loop. After several tries I got something I can live with. Part of the challenge is that the splice has to be made while the served line is fed through the hole in the stem.
Since I felt that the splice was still noticeably thicker than the rest of the line, I placed the splice inside the hole in the stem. After some shaping, I seized the thimble in the opposite end and then lashed it to the bobstay collar. So now it’s on to the bob sprint shrouds which are served but not doubled.
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EJ_L got a reaction from cobra1951 in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
Looking good! I will echo what Mike said about the garboard turning up at the bow. Even if it is only a slight bend, once you start adding strakes that bend will become more and more noticable. One way to check this is to keep measuring your space inbetween the garboard and those upper planks. Do your planks still fit in that space with the correct number and widths? If they do then you are ok. If not then you need to reset.
What happens is that the spacing at the bow will close out faster that the rest of the hull as it is a smaller space to begin with. If your planks are turning up there thrn that will accelerate that gap closure and you will not have the space to run the same number of strakes at the bow as you have on the rest of the ship.
You may be fine but double check you spacing now. It is easier to replace one plank then have to remove a lot of planks or be unhappy with your results.
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EJ_L got a reaction from cobra1951 in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
MIke I thought the same thing about having to step over that rail and then it being a foot deeper on one side. I could see a lot of awkwardness, tripping and banged shins and knees on either height. Maybe not the best design...
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EJ_L got a reaction from Elijah in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
Looking good! I will echo what Mike said about the garboard turning up at the bow. Even if it is only a slight bend, once you start adding strakes that bend will become more and more noticable. One way to check this is to keep measuring your space inbetween the garboard and those upper planks. Do your planks still fit in that space with the correct number and widths? If they do then you are ok. If not then you need to reset.
What happens is that the spacing at the bow will close out faster that the rest of the hull as it is a smaller space to begin with. If your planks are turning up there thrn that will accelerate that gap closure and you will not have the space to run the same number of strakes at the bow as you have on the rest of the ship.
You may be fine but double check you spacing now. It is easier to replace one plank then have to remove a lot of planks or be unhappy with your results.
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EJ_L got a reaction from Elijah in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
MIke I thought the same thing about having to step over that rail and then it being a foot deeper on one side. I could see a lot of awkwardness, tripping and banged shins and knees on either height. Maybe not the best design...
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EJ_L got a reaction from mrshanks in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
Looking good! I will echo what Mike said about the garboard turning up at the bow. Even if it is only a slight bend, once you start adding strakes that bend will become more and more noticable. One way to check this is to keep measuring your space inbetween the garboard and those upper planks. Do your planks still fit in that space with the correct number and widths? If they do then you are ok. If not then you need to reset.
What happens is that the spacing at the bow will close out faster that the rest of the hull as it is a smaller space to begin with. If your planks are turning up there thrn that will accelerate that gap closure and you will not have the space to run the same number of strakes at the bow as you have on the rest of the ship.
You may be fine but double check you spacing now. It is easier to replace one plank then have to remove a lot of planks or be unhappy with your results.
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EJ_L got a reaction from Canute in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
Looking good! I will echo what Mike said about the garboard turning up at the bow. Even if it is only a slight bend, once you start adding strakes that bend will become more and more noticable. One way to check this is to keep measuring your space inbetween the garboard and those upper planks. Do your planks still fit in that space with the correct number and widths? If they do then you are ok. If not then you need to reset.
What happens is that the spacing at the bow will close out faster that the rest of the hull as it is a smaller space to begin with. If your planks are turning up there thrn that will accelerate that gap closure and you will not have the space to run the same number of strakes at the bow as you have on the rest of the ship.
You may be fine but double check you spacing now. It is easier to replace one plank then have to remove a lot of planks or be unhappy with your results.
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EJ_L got a reaction from Jeff-E in Golden Hind by Kihon - Mamoli - Scale 1:53 - circa 1577
Ciaran,
Your ship looks good and considering it has been sitting idle for that many years, thats even more impressive as often they get damaged while on the shelf. It is good to see you returning to the hobby as well. We have had many discussions lately about people leaving for many of the reasons you did so it is nice to see someone return and try again.
Unfortunately I do not know of any easy way to straighten out the hull at this point as the planking locks it into shape. As Jeff said it probably originated with a warped false keel from the beginning. Hopefully someone else may know of a way.
Don't feel too bad about the proper names. I find myself stopping to look up what something is called all the time. Best advice I can give on that is to try to use the proper terms once you have learned them a lot. The more you use them the easier it will be and as I'm sure you are like most of us and do not sail or build ships on a daily basis, the only time you will really get the chance is when you post on here.
Good luck and I look forward to seeing her come together.
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EJ_L got a reaction from Canute in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
MIke I thought the same thing about having to step over that rail and then it being a foot deeper on one side. I could see a lot of awkwardness, tripping and banged shins and knees on either height. Maybe not the best design...
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EJ_L reacted to mikiek in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
First off, that is some gorgeous wood!
It's hard to say because pix don't show the 3D view very well. Not your fault, it's just the way it is. If anything, I would say the garboard may be extending into the bow a little too much. But you can judge that. The key is you don't want the garboard turning up at all at the bow. In your next to last pic it kinda looks like it might be turning up some - maybe just the camera angle. I can say from experience, if it goes too far into the bow (even if the GB looks level) the next strakes will start to turn up.
One view you didn't show was your transom. How is that working out?
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EJ_L reacted to Elijah in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
Hello all! I got three strakes done in the last two days, including the garboard on the starboard side. I took a lot of pictures, so I will let them explain themselves. I did surgery to remove a bad plank that had CA on it, and replaced it. The garboard points up at the same rate as the planks above do, so I think it works, but I would like to hear feedback on it. If I manage to get the next two strakes above the garboard, I will move on to the garboard on the port side. Really, after I get some planks on the lower part of the hull, on both sides, it will only be a matter of closing the gap. Onward !
I will update again at the halfway point! Thanks for any comments and help! Until next time.
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EJ_L reacted to dgbot in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
I was able to read Chucks practicum and he said that the cockpit was originally a fot below the dexk. The reason he does not do it is beausr of the dificulty of getting it done nice and neat.
David B
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EJ_L reacted to mikiek in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
Would look kinda cool but then reality sets in. That rail around the cockpit area would be annoying enough to have to step over to get to the wheel. If you had to step over and down? At nite?
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EJ_L got a reaction from Elijah in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
That is a tough call. I agree that the drawings do look like the decks are at the same level. I also agree though that I think it would look better and was probably lower down in side the cockpit. With a solid hull that might make for some carving out of the deck to make it work.
I would do some research on other build logs or even google images and see if you can find what others have done. Ultimately like Bob said, it's your ship and decision. Which ever way makes you happy.
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EJ_L reacted to Jeff-E in Golden Hind by Kihon - Mamoli - Scale 1:53 - circa 1577
Hi Ciaran,
First let me say welcome to Model Ship World
Your model looks real good, it looks like you have made a good job of the planking. It is a shame about the twist but I don't think anything can be done about it now without major alterations. It may have been caused by a twisted false keel in the beginning.
To taper your masts and yards the method I use is first cut them about 25mm longer than required, so that it can be held in a drill chuck without any damage to the actual mast, and then mark a circle on one end the diameter it needs to be tapered to. Then measure from that end back down the mast to where the plans state that the taper starts from and mark it. I use a small hand plane to carefully first square the dowel, planning from the mark to the end of the dowel, being careful to keep just outside the marked circle. I then plane the corners off making it eight sided and then plane the corners off again so I end up with a sixteen sided piece. The other end is put into a battery drill and the tapered end is smoothed down with sand paper until the correct diameter is achieved.
I don't live in the UK but a good reliable supplier that I know of there is Cornwall Model Boats they have a web site and ship worldwide. I am fairly sure they will be able to help you with any supplies that you require.
Hope this helps you
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EJ_L reacted to Kihon in Golden Hind by Kihon - Mamoli - Scale 1:53 - circa 1577
I've a bit to go before I'm on to the masts but I like to jump about in the building and not do it in sequence but I'm concerned about how to taper the spars and masts.
Anyone got any tips?
Also are there any UK people on here that could suggest a good supplier for the items such as better rigging thread, blocks for guns, triangular deadeyes, smaller belay pins, etc?
Thanks,
Ciaran.
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EJ_L reacted to Kihon in Golden Hind by Kihon - Mamoli - Scale 1:53 - circa 1577
Hello everyone.
I started this more than 15 years ago and it was the first wooden ship model kit I had bought (also the last to date!), however after second planking and being confounded by the kits inaccurate parts, such as the chain plates, and having no experience of ship building, I gave up.
Well the internet is much better now with all sorts of info out there such as this site/forum so after stumbling upon it, I was inspired by rschisslers build log of this kit to try again to complete it.
So here is my build log from now; I had taken pictures previously but that was back in the days of pin hole cameras if I unearth them I will add them in.
Here is where I started from recently.
And the most recent work, not much so far;
hand/cap rails installed some gratings hollowed out the boat adjusted the front pointy bit to accept the goat or hind figure head (no I'm not kidding, I'll try to get the names right but I'm no nautical person!) border on stern installed
Unfortunatley the hull is twisted, is there anything I can do?
Anyway hopefully I'll get better pictures and more detail as I go on but it will all be inspired by Mr R Schisslers work.
Cheers,
Ciaran.
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EJ_L got a reaction from zoly99sask in La Couronne by EJ_L - FINISHED - Corel - 1:100 - 1637 Version
The Couronne shipyard has resumed work after an extended break. We took time off to mourn the passing of my first mate Brinkley. He developed cancer unexpectedly and had to be put down last Tuesday much to the Admiral's and mine sorrow. This, combined with having to take time to finalize plans for the new shipyard which has started construction today we had a busy and rather stressful week that did not allow time for ship building.
However, now I'm back at it and so here is a quick picture update of the work that I have managed to do in the past couple of days. She is slowly climbing upward and starting to flush out some details. I think I will have lots of good build time this week so I will see what more I can get done and also take some better pictures of the whole ship soon.
It feels good to be building again!
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EJ_L reacted to Salty Sea Dog in La Couronne by EJ_L - FINISHED - Corel - 1:100 - 1637 Version
So sorry for your loss EJ.
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EJ_L got a reaction from riverboat in La Couronne by EJ_L - FINISHED - Corel - 1:100 - 1637 Version
The Couronne shipyard has resumed work after an extended break. We took time off to mourn the passing of my first mate Brinkley. He developed cancer unexpectedly and had to be put down last Tuesday much to the Admiral's and mine sorrow. This, combined with having to take time to finalize plans for the new shipyard which has started construction today we had a busy and rather stressful week that did not allow time for ship building.
However, now I'm back at it and so here is a quick picture update of the work that I have managed to do in the past couple of days. She is slowly climbing upward and starting to flush out some details. I think I will have lots of good build time this week so I will see what more I can get done and also take some better pictures of the whole ship soon.
It feels good to be building again!
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EJ_L got a reaction from Elijah in La Couronne by EJ_L - FINISHED - Corel - 1:100 - 1637 Version
Mark, Bob, thank you for your condolences.
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EJ_L got a reaction from Gerhardvienna in Phantom by Elijah - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:96 - New York Pilot Boat
That is a tough call. I agree that the drawings do look like the decks are at the same level. I also agree though that I think it would look better and was probably lower down in side the cockpit. With a solid hull that might make for some carving out of the deck to make it work.
I would do some research on other build logs or even google images and see if you can find what others have done. Ultimately like Bob said, it's your ship and decision. Which ever way makes you happy.
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EJ_L got a reaction from mtaylor in La Couronne by EJ_L - FINISHED - Corel - 1:100 - 1637 Version
Mark, Bob, thank you for your condolences.
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EJ_L reacted to cobra1951 in La Couronne by EJ_L - FINISHED - Corel - 1:100 - 1637 Version
Sorry for your loss EJ
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