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yangliyuan got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Hi, all
Recently, I bought a 1:72 HMS Victory from Caldercraft and realised it does not include sails. I know that modelers do not want any sail as it can interfere the view on riggings. However, if I really want to include hand-made sails in my ship, will it largely diminish the rigging details? Did anyone try to include sails on Victory before? Or I just stupid to have sails. Or what kind of condition of sails is the best? rolled-up or stretched.
Welcome any comment. Thanks, guys.
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yangliyuan got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Thank you for your comment. I did order the 1:72 sails online and would use full sails streched on my ship. However, I may not have time to open a full log. After I finished my kit, I will definitly upload many photos of details.
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yangliyuan got a reaction from slow2cool in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Thank you for your comment. I did order the 1:72 sails online and would use full sails streched on my ship. However, I may not have time to open a full log. After I finished my kit, I will definitly upload many photos of details.
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yangliyuan got a reaction from Canute in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Thank you for your comment. I did order the 1:72 sails online and would use full sails streched on my ship. However, I may not have time to open a full log. After I finished my kit, I will definitly upload many photos of details.
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yangliyuan reacted to vossy in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
hello, I don't know if a sail set exists for model or if you can make one yourself, but I would love to see this kit with sails. even furled would be super and not obscure the intricate rigging work.
cheers
chris
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yangliyuan reacted to overdale in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
I am about to put sails on my frigate 'Boston'.
I don't usually put sails on but this is for someone else so i don't have a choice. They will be furled so as to show as much rigging as possible. I'm using silkspan which is a kind of tissue used to cover model aircraft as I find cotton etc. too thick and over scale.
Keep an eye on my build log below, and I'll put up some photos to show the progress.
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12369-frigate-boston-by-overdale/page-1
Dan.
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yangliyuan reacted to mtaylor in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Sails are definitely an option and it's your option. There's lots of choices and yes, many builders do put on sails. Go to the Kit Build area and search on "Victory"... there's all varieties of methods.
As a primer, go to the article database on masts and sails here: http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-rigging-and-sails.php There's a primer by John Tilley. It is an old article so not all the links work, however.
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yangliyuan reacted to slow2cool in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
I just made my first ship with rigging and sails. The box shows them some what furled, but I wanted to to try the full blown efect.
The way it turned out it does hide some of the rigging when looking from the front, when you look from the sides you can see the rigging and more details.
I find that a ship with full blown sails very majestic.
If losing detail is you concern you can always have the sails just starting to furl. Or have the top sails full and the bottom sails starting to furl.
One more thing to think about is at the scale you are woking with you should have more room to work with sails. Mine was 1:90 scale, so things were a little tight.
On the other hand, if this is your first ship, you may want to take things a little easy. From what I understand you have a great kit.
Now if it were me, I would go full tilt, because the Victory is a very majestic ship.
Hope you do a build log, I would like to follow your progress. If you do, send me a PM so I can follow your log.
Joe
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yangliyuan reacted to mtaylor in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Joe got me thinking. Some builders will do full sails and blowing in the wind... except for the fore and main course which will be brailed up as they would be during battle. Frolich in his "The Art of Ship Modeling" shows one where the yards and sails are set as to keep the ship stopped in place while loading and/or unloading the ship's boats. A variety of ways....
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yangliyuan got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Hi, all
Recently, I bought a 1:72 HMS Victory from Caldercraft and realised it does not include sails. I know that modelers do not want any sail as it can interfere the view on riggings. However, if I really want to include hand-made sails in my ship, will it largely diminish the rigging details? Did anyone try to include sails on Victory before? Or I just stupid to have sails. Or what kind of condition of sails is the best? rolled-up or stretched.
Welcome any comment. Thanks, guys.
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yangliyuan got a reaction from WackoWolf in HMS Victory 1:72 with sails or not?
Hi, all
Recently, I bought a 1:72 HMS Victory from Caldercraft and realised it does not include sails. I know that modelers do not want any sail as it can interfere the view on riggings. However, if I really want to include hand-made sails in my ship, will it largely diminish the rigging details? Did anyone try to include sails on Victory before? Or I just stupid to have sails. Or what kind of condition of sails is the best? rolled-up or stretched.
Welcome any comment. Thanks, guys.
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yangliyuan reacted to mtaylor in Chinese Mannul of HMS Victory
Yangliyuan,
I know of no Chinese instructions for this kit. As for help, there's quite a few build logs here in MSW which would probably be a lot of help. Also opening your own log would give you a lot of feedback.
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yangliyuan got a reaction from WackoWolf in Chinese Mannul of HMS Victory
Hi, all
I bought a Caldercraft HMS Victory model kit last month. And after one-month shipping (largely delayed by Chinese custom), I will finally get my model kit at next Tuesday. However, I feel like I have trouble understanding the English version of the manual. And I want a Chinese version or some materials of constructing the ship with more photos rather than words, which can help me build the model without the need to look at the manual. Please help me with this. Thanks a lot!
BTW: the Caldercraft Victory has no sails right? Where can I get the sails?
Best Regards guys!
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yangliyuan reacted to mtdoramike in Is the Caldercraft HMS Victory still the best?
Thanks for the link Mark, but they have been teasing us with that carrot for quite some time now. I'm hoping the release will be soon since the release of the Revenge though. It sure makes me want to build another Victory.
mike
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yangliyuan reacted to Heinz6672 in Is the Caldercraft HMS Victory still the best?
Hello Yang,
I could not seriously say, that the caldercraft kit is the best for building a victory, just because I have no experiences with other kits.
But I can tell you, that the kit is really good. Very good!
I would like to invite you to take a look at my build log. Because I am someone using the kit as a basis. But I go a different way in building my Victory. I use different woods to imitate the color. And I try to build her without using these millwork sheet parts. Of course, this means that I have to buy additional wood - it makes my Victory more expensive - but this is ok for me.
Best wishes to you
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yangliyuan got a reaction from mtaylor in Is the Caldercraft HMS Victory still the best?
Hi Rick,
Many thanks for your reply! I did read some logs, especially the Caldercraft one since it has the most makers around. Personally, I think it is the most detailed one. However, I do not like the copper plate because I prefer the original color and wood. I think I will follow your ideas and read more different logs on various kits. Thanks!
Regards kevin
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yangliyuan reacted to Seventynet in Is the Caldercraft HMS Victory still the best?
yangliyuan,
The CC Victory is a massive kit requiring a long time to complete. It is my first model, a choice many would advise against, but I am enjoying it and am able to build it (so far) because of the collective experience and examples on this site. However, you have said you don't like the coppering. Then you should buy different wood than that supplied (African walnut, aka mansonia) because it is not intended to be a final surface, or think of a different model.
Good luck with your decision.
Ian
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yangliyuan got a reaction from Canute in Help with buying the Caldercraft HMS Victory
Hi Mark,
Sure, I think I will! Thanks Mark!
kevin
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yangliyuan got a reaction from Canute in Help with buying the Caldercraft HMS Victory
Thanks, Tom, this Cornwall Models is better than the shop I find. Many thanks! Extremely helpful!
Kevin
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yangliyuan reacted to CharlieZardoz in Is the Caldercraft HMS Victory still the best?
Perhaps you mean more historically accurate or easy to construct which for Victory is very relative? I would say that caldercraft has alot of fine kits many made by Chris Watton whose work is amazing. In general newer kits often have the benefit of modern tools and tech like lasers. Older kits can sometimes be a bit off on details and problematic with construction however as Rick said the same is true with many newer kits as well if anything ive read on this forum some of them (not saying which) are bit of a mess. That said I am looking forward to if Chris will one day find a home for that 1/64 scale Victory 8)
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yangliyuan reacted to mtdoramike in Is the Caldercraft HMS Victory still the best?
Rick is dead on. Most people think the more expensive the kit the better the kit. But I don't buy into that. No matter who the manufacture of the kit is, they all have their faults and they all have their good points. I just finished the Artesania Latina Victory kit and am very pleased with the results. The Sergal/Mantua Victory kit was touted to be the best Victory kit or most accurate back in the 70's and 80's. But to me accuracy is something that you the builder must insure or add to any kit because if you want accuracy, you must do your research of that particular model and be willing to make any adjustments to the kit as needed. I look at a kit and only the shell and most kits can be built straight out of the box, but if you want to make it your own, research, research, research.
So your question really should be, which is the most accurate kit.
mike
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yangliyuan got a reaction from WackoWolf in Help with buying the Caldercraft HMS Victory
Hi Mark,
Sure, I think I will! Thanks Mark!
kevin
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yangliyuan got a reaction from WackoWolf in Help with buying the Caldercraft HMS Victory
Thanks, Tom, this Cornwall Models is better than the shop I find. Many thanks! Extremely helpful!
Kevin
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yangliyuan got a reaction from mtaylor in Help with buying the Caldercraft HMS Victory
Hi Mark,
Sure, I think I will! Thanks Mark!
kevin
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yangliyuan reacted to mtaylor in Help with buying the Caldercraft HMS Victory
Kevin,
I hope you'll consider doing a build log once you start.
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