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I know ships take on different looks and paint schemes under different captains. Being a commercial vessel the Morgan underwent many retrofits and modifications not to mention paint schemes. When I build a vessel I tend to attempt to build her as she was originally constructed based upon the builders design...or the owners design/preferences. The Morgan underwent plenty of major refits and mods to include her aft house. My photo collection are from her 1870's refit and overhaul. Like with most Cutty Sark models that include the Poop house aft entrance and her round roof entrance over her fore hatch. These are not original configurations and are for public access. Same with the Morgan. Your build is very good and I'd keep the direction, you're on, if that is your direction. I included the image to show the difference...irregardless of what your current data suggests. I also noticed you built her without her added galley windows. Keep up the great build...I'll be looking in. Rob
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Great build......The rotating tiller wheel looks good...the tiller box looks good...but my 1870's image shows the interior spaces were white. Still..looks accurate..and cleanly done. Very good.
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With this being the Cutty Sark and a much later version then the YA or any East coast Clipper.....I can assume from the Lloyds requirements...their rules applied to her as far as having external cross lattice iron banding. She had Iron frames...but you can see if the banding was on the outside..how the siding would need to be Cut to accommodate them. Just for information's sake. Rob
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The radio and control gear is all hidden within I assume...do you water near by? Rob
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Michael....outstanding work. Do you have a plan for the finished model? A spot....a mantle...a museum? Rob
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I believe even Campbell's book suggests wooden cross lattice was utilized as internal bracing on occasions. From what I gathered from my own study..the thinner iron was cut into the framing on external applications and larger wooden bracing could be used internally as was typical with some large first and second rate ships of previous centuries. But.....Clipper design is so varied and not any two ships were designed exactly the same..because the evolution was rapid...so Internal strapping may have been limited in of itself...and since records available to deny or confirm are lost to history...any good educated guess would probably not find too much opposition among those who have even a clue......not to mention those who do not. Great build log Ed...it, along with the build has become a class room in design as well. Rob
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Looks good to me...Internal lattice was typically wood if I'm not mistaken. Good choice...since that is depicted in many line drawings of many ships. Rob
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Jumping back to the diagonal iron strapping...In my George Campbell book, *China Tea Clippers*..He diagrams well the use of diagonal iron straps in Clipper ships made after 1851. This is the only good image I could find...but I might have another in some other books I have. He says the straps were let into the face of the frame...suggesting metal strapping was done on the outside of frames not the inside. Just some thoughts to ponder. Rob
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The pigment is added to the glue to accentuate the seam lines to demonstrate the construction?
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I love the history lesson that accompanies your build Ed. I've decided to finish my Ferreira build..before I finish the Glory of the Seas......but I will still begin the hull mods and sea build for the Donald McKay. Lots to do and see. Rob
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Bruce...when do you plan on beginning the McKay? I too am planning her build. And yes..the Webb/McKay challenge would have been something to see for sure. Rob
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I'm impressed.... and finally we have several clippers being represented here on these build logs...to date: The Young America.. The Ariel..My Glory of the Seas and....the masterfully built Lightning. And not to forget..the several logs of the Cutty Sark. I think this is the most clippers represented in quite a while......and it also appears that 2 *Donald McKay's* will be entered the Frey in the future as well. What fun to see such a diverse collection of clippers.....wooden merchant ships of this period where built for a specific reason...*Speed*. a short but mighty career. Great forum. Rob
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Great news Ed....thanks. Bruce..I too am building the Donald McKay for a large open ocean diorama......I'm, currently building the Glory of the Seas..both for similar reasons as what you described...but namely because Glory was McKay's last Clipper and she died here in Seattle and the McKay was one of 4 passenger builds for James Baines Black ball line...which, like the Lighting had unique open air gangways for crew access. I would be most interested in your build of the Mckay. I have followed your Lightning build and enjoy your web page on the subject...great work and attention to detail. Rob
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