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Ed, will your book be covering the rigging and masting or just the hull construction? Rob(I'm all over that book)
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Just came across your build log...fantastic work and execution. I'll be following along. Great job. Rob
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Fantastic Ed. It was always a mystery to me how the actual ship builders aligned their ribs so accurately. Images look good but how it got that way is the marvel. Great job..sir. Rob
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Thanks for the update Ed........Great job! I've spend ample hours myself in historical study for my current builds and at a stop point as well. Again, thanks for this fine log. Rob
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Was able to return to the Glory and I spent some time working on the port ratlines
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Here is a better closeup of the new wooden deck for the Western Shore.
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One of my dreams have come true today. I was able to go to the pyre site of the Glory of the Seas.....and at an extreme low tide..did indeed find the remains of my favorite clipper ship. I then excavated several portions of the iron pins used to fashion the timbers together(No timber survived). These iron pins were roughly 1.5" and some over 3ft long. I procured several portions..one crusted nearly fully and the rounded form head was barely visible. Being nearly 100 years old....they are brittle and after preservation I will mount them along with my model of the vessel. 8 years ago there was more to be found...she is nearly completely vanished from view and from memory. I saved my piece of the *Glory* and can't be any more excited. I have an actual piece of the Glory of the Seas and it will rest proudly and preserved with the model of her namesake. Rob(How many people can say that?)
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I wish I had gotten a better image. I hand laid the individual planks...stained and then they required ample sanding to bring them to a smooth finish. Some accounts suggests that the Western Shore sported a single tree bowsprit/jib-boom unlike many clippers that had a bowsprit, cap and separate jib-boom. Others suggest a bit less typical with the bowsprit of square dimensions and a jib-boom of typical round configuration. I will continue my research, until I am confident of this. Rob
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Got to working on some ratlines on the Glory and I rigged the mainmast yards. Still lots of ratlines to finish..but coming along.
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And a bit closer so you can see the individually laid planks. I hope to begin on more.but the Glory needs finishing work too.
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Spent some time laying the wooden deck for the Western Shore.
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I have anew computer that has no photo software loaded on it so I'm working to remedy that . Hopefully soon. Rob
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
rwiederrich replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
I am so sorry about your mother......I pray she recovers fully...as well as your sweet wife. According to your most recent images of the Cutty and the chain you are fabricating...good job! One thing I am not clear on is that, are you going to model your version with the forward hatch covered with that stairwell cowling as well as that cowling just aft of the windless forward? These items are not of the original design and were added for cadet and public usage. Are you omitting them or adding them..not sure I read that anywhere? Rob- 4,152 replies
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That is outstanding news....and I have not forgotten your excellent offer. Just let me know the shipping and associated costs and I'll pop off the address. Again...thanks so much for your kindness and generosity. Rob
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Great tribute Ed. I too have been moved by Mr. Crothers writings and collections of clipper ship data. His collective research is in my view, priceless. And you have translated his work into a living representation. No better tribute. Rob
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Sometimes I don't know if I'm coming or going. I kinda feel like Ole Donald McKay myself with the anxious anxiety of a new build fogging my view...long before I have finished the ship I'm currently working on. After working on the clipper Donald McKay for a time...and finalizing a home move...I finally spent some quality time rigging and fitting out the Glory of the Seas foremast yards. To include lift rigging, jackstays, Flemish horses, stirrups and footropes. Before I affix them to the mast...I must return to finishing the port side foot ropes. I spent much of last night rigging them on the shrouds. I intend to fashion the Jacobs ladders as well during this stage. It appears I have created for myself a nightmare(If such can be considered to be so). I'm on the brink of finishing ....totally...the Barkentine Ferreira ...(aka Cutty Sark). few odds and ends. I'm a third way through the mast construction on the Clipper Donald McKay. I'm slinging along on the mainmast yards and backstays of the clipper Glory of the Seas. And... I'm laying the deck for the new construction on the clipper Western Shore. I forgot to take images...so I'll try that soon. Rob
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Thanks......I will probably be building several copies of the Western Shore...one by way of using a heavily modified hull of an existing CS hull and then later after I am given permission from the owner of the plans...a plank on bulkhead version. As some may know from previous builds of mine..I like to use inexpensive 1/96 polystyrene hulls and then modify them as much as possible to the correct dimensions. Saves time. This will be tricky.....however, since only carpenter drawings are all that remain of her hull. Her deck fixtures and fittings are not unlike that of the McKay, Glory of the Seas, and her forecastle is not unlike that of the Flying fish. Asa Simpsen simply went aboard vessels at anchor and took measurements and ideas, from what I gather. Rob
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Yes...I considered a larger scale...but I do need to stay within some limits. I still have to build the Sea Witch....and the Great Republic...... 6 clippers. Rob
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Further study reveals that the Western Shore had a simple(whaler) tiller style steering gear...unlike the mechanical designs of clippers a decade earlier and since. Here are some examples of the wheel and tiller rigging the Western Shore emulated. Asa Simpson wanted his ships as modern as possible..but sturdy and sometimes the simpler the design the better. He never insured his vessels since he owned and operated them for his own particulars.....and when they wrecked that was it. Rob
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Yes, and I just ordered 5 books this last week....... Rob
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Thanks for responding.....I'm looking forward to your technique when you come to making the lower masts. By the way.....most outstanding Log....I will be getting the book too when it is finally in print
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Some art work of the Western Shore.
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It's funny, but as I go through my notes on the Western Shore...a Particular incident comes to mind and was possibly a good reason why Asa Simpson built the Shore. In a newspaper interview Asa gives a detailed account of ‘why’ he built the ‘shore’ and it all centered around an east coast Captain leaning over the handrail of his ‘clipper’ ship (could have been a Mckay or Webb ship?) shouting to one of Asa’s captains in command of one of their Barkentines, “nice yacht”!That friendly insult along with what must have been constant chiding at their many dinner parties, inspired Asa to ‘prove’ his west coast yards could indeed built a true clipper ship (there’s a whole bunch more to the east coast skepticism, a whole bunch of which centers around using Oregon Cedars and Fir, rather then east coast hardwoods to build premium ships). Great American know-how and a streak of competitiveness.... Great story. The discovery of this vessel and its record breaking runs...will forever change the history books according to clipper design and history. Rob
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Ed..not sure you mentioned this earlier, but did the YA have single stick masts or composite masts? From her images it appears they were not composite...but I could be wrong. Rob
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