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Rob, That's a clever reuse of ordinary objects. -
Rob, I seriously believe that the detailed observations of Scottsman, sailor and newspaper journalist Duncan McLean are our greatest ally in accurately envisioning the appearance of these magnificent ships. While I'm convinced the author really didn't appreciate gold leaf, carved embellishments he was fastidious in his highly detailed recitations of a vessel's construction. This tendency is consistent for every vessel he described whether they came from the McKay shipyard or not. Our efforts to reinterpret these factual descriptions is leading to more accurately built authentic replicas.
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@rwiederrich I'm pretty sure that the removal of the additional Flying Cloud splash rail brought up a lengthy, silly discussion of the use of such rails including "ahem" certain necessary yet disgusting bodily functions. I suppose I should "mosey" on down to the other site and supply the sensible answer to them....
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Meanwhile I found an interesting pair of articles in The Portland Press Herald which I thought you might enjoy. The first is on a 1934 discovery of an ancient ship's bell caught in a fisherman's net. It turned out to be from the 1855 clipper Noonday built by Fernald & Pettigrew, who's shipyard was on Badger Island, Pistaqua River, Kittery, Maine. The distinctive shape and mount reminded me of the one you crafted for Staghound. They're both very close. The second article was about another now famous smaller clipper Snow Squall. There's another beautiful JE Buttersworth piece. The main subject "Clipper ship Warner rounding Cape Horn" features a background clipper, considered to be the last painting of Snow Squall. Update: after noticing that "Old Glory" was in color, I used an app on my phone to enhance colors in the Noonday painting. Here's the result:
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Rob, I didn't mean to suggest adding the splash rail early. I was simply thinking of an answer to a question of another observer who was questioning the need for such an extra rail only at the forecastle.
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@rwiederrich Rob, she's coming together quickly now that you're recovered. Even though it's years since I've done any model building, I appreciate you sharing your step-by-step building procedures with accompanying photos. I think I know why there's a forecastle splash rail. As we saw on Glory of the Seas there appears to be a similar waterway installed on the forecastle. The splash rail adds bulwark protection.
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Rob, I gather you're sufficiently recovered from your kidney stones, which is a relief to learn. Peggy took one look at your Staghound hull and said that's a pretty ship! Of course, she's right.
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On the last day of our 40th Anniversary vacation, on the way home from Stonington I went to the Mystic Seaport Museum, South Entrance. On the 2nd floor of the Stillman building is an exhibit "From Clippers to Carriers." Ed Tosti's spectacular 1853 Webb, NY clipper Young America build is on display. Other 1:72nd scale replicas by Carl Davis are the 1850 Webb built packet Isaac Webb the Mystic, CT clipper David Crockett as well as the 1883 Bath, Maine Downeaster Benjamin F Packard. My sweet wife Peggy waited in the car so I was as efficient as possible to cover the entire floor. Other than one couple who soon left, the room was empty. That made my goal of documenting the sail portion of the exhibit much easier. I have additional photos of the entire sail based portion of the display but to save time didn't take pictures of the modern cargo carriers. It doesn't seem appropriate to post the rest on Ed's build log.
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@Rick310 not to be curmudgeonly but just to set the record straight for everybody Staghound had neither headboards nor trailboards. What your seeing are navel hoods. They're also different from naval hoods which apparently were intended to protect wooden hawse holes before the advent of wrought iron ones made them unnecessary. Navel hoods are actually an extension of the ship's hull while naval hoods do not. Earlier in this build there's a picture of the bow of clipper Seaman's Bride from below. You can clearly see how her headboards and trailboards leave a lot of open space while Donald McKay's design is solid.
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Rob, pain sucks and certainly makes the days longer. My sis-in-law says the agony of passing kidney stones is worse than childbirth. You have my sympathies and prayers for a speedy recovery.
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Rob, It continually impresses me how rapidly you work. Staghound is shaping up to be one beautiful clipper.
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Rob, I've read that same conclusion too. Meanwhile 1851 Flying Cloud McKay's second extreme California clipper twice set the record anchor to anchor from NY to San Francisco which was never surpassed by another three masted vessel. In 1859-60 the 1855 Mystic, CT built Belle Hoxie renamed Andrew Jackson beat her time NY to the Farallon Islands, entry point to the San Francisco Bay in 89 days, 4 hours. However, lack of an available pilot boat resulted in her anchor to anchor time being longer, resulting in 89 days, 20 hours. Since Flying Cloud twice set records anchor to anchor with her fastest complete passage being 89 days, 8 hours anchor to anchor, that standard applied to all other ships. Her record stood for 135 years until the yacht Thursday's Child finally beat her in 1989. And yet, some nautical scholars still insist that the only extreme clipper Donald McKay ever launched was Staghound.
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As a way of evaluating Donald McKay's continuing nautical design evolution in his developing pursuit of the fastest hull, here are 1928 Flying Cloud plans. Besides dropping her angle at half-floor 10° it's clear that he widened her overall profile. In fact, it's quite likely that Staghound was McKay's slimmest, most aggressive vessel of his entire California clipper fleet.
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Damn straight!
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@rwiederrich @Luis Felipe and @Vladimir_Wairoa here's the actual pdf plan images from Staples. I noticed that the grid lines on the previous plans are slightly skewed. That's due to my cell phone not being precisely above when I took the picture. These are more precise. The only mistake I see are slightly misaligned fore halves of the Chappelle.
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