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Peter, thank you for your nice comment......, I hope that one day it will turn out a little bit like your super KWdG museums model...... BTW... I sent you a PM on 27.05, have you read it ? Nils
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Crackers, thanks for joining in on the KWdG build, and many thanks also for your lovely and kind complement which is much appreciated Nils
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Build log part 4 Today is keellaying day, ...... the base plate has been reinforced underneath, and is now absolutely flat, and first preliminary frame set up of 26 single removeable frames, to see how the contours are straking, and what amount oif fairing to the outer frame contours shall be necessary. Then the positions notches for the stringers will be checked resp. corrected, before they are cut out. Also the keel will be fitted in as well as the stern- and bow post areas. The strong "spine" can be clearly seen here. I`ll cut away many of the dead wood inside the frames, leaving only the convex deck beams and reinforcements where necessary, where visable decks will be fitted later on. The 6 mm dowels to resemble the propshafts will be replaced later with brass tubes. The different color of the frames is due to the use of leftover ply, I gathered over the years. bottom side of reinforced baseplate upper side, with pencil centerline and lines for frame-distances the pile of frames the admiral was so kind to hold the "shipyard"...... ..... aft view different ply, in color and thicknesses Nils
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Many thanks Popeye and Patrick, Popeye, my Little toolpark is realy nothing sofisticated, but still to date all ship model have somehow been built this way..... Patrick, I`m lucky to have two of the basement rooms in the house.... now I`ll better be cutting out the Frames and do a dry set up, I`m so curious if the hull contour will be straking well without Major adjustments Nils
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Nice to see you posting again Jason, the HMS Snake is coming on beautifuly Nils
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Build log part 3 Whilst the design work goes on, I`m looking for what material resources I still have laying around that can be used without buying new.... There are still 3 of those brass candle holders that will give nice pedestals for the model`s stand, they would be conform with the stands for my "Gorch Fock" and "Pamir", and perhaps the one or other odd wooden strips from the resources bin can be used within the hull making......The base plate for setting up the frames has already been prepared and smoothend to take the third ship built on it (my shipyard slipway) Although fingers are itching to get the new hull under steam, there is the strong desire to complete my "HMS Pegasus" within due time, she is looking at me sadly all the time need to spread out (just for a moment, otherwise I`ll be in for trouble) in the admiral`s washing an ironing kitchen taken partionaly from historic documents from the web... will probably do the rudder heel and the window out cut from brass. The section also shows the stagered lengths of the propshaft bearing supports here the three left over brass candle holders, ( the threads on top will be cut off, the center drilled through) fit M4 spindle and a "knock in" wood nut for anchoring the spindle in the ships reinforcement backbone, (20mm beech sqarebar) here is my humble hoizontal "latheing" and vertical drilling station I have two power machines, a grinding device for sharpening tools, and a multi belt/disc grinder my wood bin, with the "leftovers" this little room in our home basement I have occupied for the "rough" work, fortunately I have a second larger room for the more "clean" modeling This is the base board I shall use for the new frame set up. The board where it is laying on, can be swiveled back 90° to be out of the way. The hight of this swivel-board is lower that the surrounding ones and has just the right hight for working putting the sewing machine on (when sail sewing) Nils
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Many thanks to Piet, John and Mick, and to all the "likes"...... Piet, I remember we communicated about the "Musi", that will be very nice smaller coastal freighter, hopefuly you`ll get to starting it some day... John, correct, and the direction of rotation...., I would`nt mind putting them on the wrong side if I were only so far already (smile) Mick, yes I saw These ceramic hole-plates already and might be investing in one, seems to have much benefits when multiple parts soldering... Nils
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Thanks Mick, It realy was tricky with the soldering, with the second prop it hapened once (only payed a second less attention to the heatflow than I should have.... per gas tourch) and all 4 blades dropped from the hub, as I was soldering on the last one, causing a delay and keeping cool to get everthing set up for a new try again Nils
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Thank you for your words Peter, I`m very happy to share this with others and all who ever likes to stay tuned to this log will go through ups and downs with me, as the build sequences will have to be prepared as the minimum for the next stage requirements, and as they come, in lack of neigther a building instruction nor a finished building plan. In the moment I`m confedent that I`ll stand it through Nils
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Popeye, thanks for your comment... I have now smoothend down my shipyard building base, (my Little slipway) that has already been used for frames Setup on "Pamir" and "Heinrich Kaiser" hull , its just Long enough for KWdG as well. When all the self drawn Frames set up in well straking alignment way without much fairing of the contours and the stringers fit into the foreseen notches that will be another importent sequence in the hull making. I made good experience with a strong "spine" fitted above the keel, and due to the models length I`ll do this here as well Nils
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Pete, thank you for your nice comment Nils
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Thank you Michael, was only a small sequence for the start, but very important for me that it worked out fine... Nils
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Many thanks for joining in Jaxboat, You`re always very welcome... Nils
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Thank you Grant, for dropping in, and enjoy the log as she goes... Nils
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Thanks to you Jan, Nils
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Thank you very much Druxey, I`m glad you like it Nils
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Thank you Patrick, I would have been quite disencouraged if it were for the bin...., am more relaxed now Nils
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Popeye, yes, looks like I was able to provide a smile in the morning hours.....cheers ! I think around the turn of the century there were`nt many foundries that could cast a large propeller (several tons bronze input weight!) in one piece, let alone precise maching afterwards. I presume also Harland & Wolff may have had the same problem in 1911, The third center prop being smaller, looks to me like as a one piece cast though Nils
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Build log part 2 I know it sounds strange to start making the propellers where the hull is not even on the slipway, but I was wondering if I could make them from brass, as they are a typical detail, in the way they were designed 118 years ago......., and as I`ve never seen such model props on the model market, it would be a pitty if I had to fit regular model brass props I fell in love with these elegant stern lines, designed for speed here some of the detail parts, in total there are 38 to be made single parts per prop, port- and stb. props rotate counterclockwise with appr. blade twists raw hub with mounted, drilled and slotted calottes to take up the blades. The slot orientation is set with card template angle jig. The hub raw material is 8 mm squarebar, with centerline boring and M3 thread blades soldered on and brushed over, the soldering per gas tourch was quite tricky started to fit the resembled blade fastening bolts with distance sleeves and hexagonal dome nuts. Here six bolts (in actual would be 8 or 10, but that was to tricky for me to drill at that scale... The actual props had a diam. of 6800 mm, resulting in 47,2 mm model scale 1:144 without bolts.... with bolts the first prop took me 2 days to make, the second 1,5 day (learncurve) here original design drawing with 3-blade hub Nils
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Hi John, thanks for looking in, and yes, I was`nt aware of that propeller configuration before I started studying this ship......., but it makes sense and I learnt that there were also british liners of that period with props in this configuration. Concerning the bolted on blades of the two outer screws, also the RMS Titanic and it`s White Star Line sisters bear that design Nils
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Hi Peter, and many thanks, I feel very much honored that you contacted me on KWdG behalf......., I`ll send you a PM tomorrow Regards, Nils
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Michael, you`re always welcome, hope you shall enjoy Nils
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Thanks Pete, I`ll put all I can into it Nils
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Thanks Jan, I hope you will not be disappointed along the way... Nils
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Mark, I know there will be so many detail problems to solve along the way, but that keeps my mind busy and I love seeking for solutions.... Nils
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