Mirabell61

Many thanks B.E. this is an highly appreciated extra Bonus Information and shall certainly be of great help
 
Nils

Lot 16 of my Pegasus buildlog
 
 
 

there are still so many to do, I could carry on everywhere, but have to organise the futher build carefully....
 

I prolonged the black wale-stripe into the bow area, took off the Little brass bird figure before and Need to replace it again
 

here is the Little duckie again...
 

self explaining
 

prefit of the namegiving figurehead, Chris Watton prefers resin as material, for shrinkage reasons, but still i`m mind pregnant with a brass Investment casting or so ( the sponge is still not soaked...)
 

how to do by simplest means
 

 

 
self explaining
 

doing a litte bit further here
 

I really am not pleased with the forecastle Access Little "pigion-ladders" squeased in between guns and forecastle aft bulhead as planed in the drawings, in lack of space, so here is my solution (B.E. Blue Ensign might be having a smile on his face allready)

Lot 15 of my Pegasus buildlog
 
 

rear Windows completed window Panels mounted, but badges remain removeable untill a later building sequence
 

the raw opening for the rudder shaft and a small centerbore allinged through all decks above has allready been done
 

sorry the pic could have been taken sharper
 

starting on bow decoration and woodwork there
 

These 3 beams should be strong enough...
 

have to protect somehow the aft cabin Windows from inside against sanding dust
 

view under rthe forecastle deck
 
 
a Little further on
 

Looks riged enough for adding the fine-work on to
 

the preliminary 8mm bow dowel fits in perfectly

Lot 14 of my Pegasus buildlog...
 
 

portside ready for applying silk black
 

ready done in the appropriate Areas
 

here the stand Comes into the game..., use pine Wood board combined with 1/4 hollow profiled Woods and rectangular stipes for below. All is varnished in 2-cover Cherrywood stain, this covered with silktouch clear varnish. The pedestals are made from very priceworthy old brass candleholders from the local fleamarkets around Hamburg area
 

only preliminary test on testing distances and lengths of Stand pedastel bolts
 

positional check for soldered "3D etch layers" onto fries Support
 

further positioning check, note the heights, the Amati plan template I find was too low in height
 

Ships Name and window panes permanently assembled
 

poop bulwarks increased in height and Support brackets mounted to the rear plate. One of the next days I shall Need to tackle Fitting out the Stern interior and the appropriate bulkhead Panels
 

things are moving on now. I think I will leave the brass character to the decorations and therefore pre-conserved the shiny brass surfaces with a coating of high gloss varnish

Lot 13 of my Pegasus buildlog...
 
 

when doing the window outcuts the inner Frame at this Position had to be partially removed, I left the lower remains Standing and used this for Fitting a  "3 side around the Stern" window shelf into the masters cabin
 

the upper of the two waleplanks is fitted at stb.
 

the lower waleplank on port side is permanently fixeed into place (edges pre blackend to ease later black silk varnishing of the waleplanks
 

upper port aft view
 
 
lucky for me the upper two pine stripes followed easy around the bow without breaking and just by prewetting with the toung. Use semi thicsotrope super acettate glue for this. I would not be able to provide Fingerprints after the Acetate session !
 

 

the tight fit grating has been removed here to give view to the aft donward staircase from gundeck to intermediate deck.
 

stb side Barrel slide supports and outer Boarding steps
 

likewise on portside. Here additional bits of planking were required, but I think they do`nt hinder the view into the hull
 

in the Moment I am questioning my brain how and where it would be best to fasten the deadeye tackle on in not desturbing the Riggung optics and view to the inside later on

Part 12 of my buildlog.....
 

portside also sanded and upper waleplank fitted (edges pre blackend)
 

selfexplaining
 

planked hull with upper wale Planks bothsides
 

this is the extent ouf outcut in the portside hull
 

the sectional gundeck is allready placed and view to aft staircase as well as the downward stairs between upper well and pantry (covered by grating)
 

the round hole in the gundeck in front of the aft grating takes up the axis of the gundeck capstan
 

a few planking details
 

badge window outcuts made and the lower waleplanking added
 

I`m quite pleased with the results for the optic Appeal because i di`nt cut rabbet bettings into keel and bowpost Prior to planking in the applied scale 1:64

lot 10 of my Pegasus buildlog.....
 
 

doing positioning check on gundeck
 

hatch entry of front downward staircase. Belaying pin rack from RB- Models modified with brass rollers in both Posts
 

self explaining....
 

looking at both cargo and intermediate deck view through portside outcut
 

because of no later possible Access to the eyelets above deck all such Points have to be safely countered. the brass pins I use have large enbossed flathead, are very priceworthy at Ebay, are available in different lengths and differ from 0,5mm to 0,8mm in wire Diameter, depending on where they shall be fitted. gun-carriage eylets have 0,5mm diam. whereby the gun deck and bulwark-tackles shall be of 0,8mm. Fitting goes together with inner bulwark planking later on
 

self explaining
 

this Status of the gundeck does not hinder the slipping in from above, due to it`s flexibility
 

These wonderfull milled capstans (in propper scale !) are also RB models Inetnet shop product. under the grating aft of the chainpump boxes the rear staircase runs down from gundeck to intermediate deck
 

how to Position the portside guns and their tackle when there is no deck........
 

port of the main hatch grating I needed an extra Little deckextention to place the appr. eyelet tacklepoints. The gun is not permanently fitted yet, only for Position check
 
 
 
At this stage I am thinking of how doing best the Aft quarter badges in order not to ruin the beautifull etched brass parts, shall probably provide solution in the next lot

here are prepared lot 9 + 10 of my Pegasus buildlog.........
 
 
 

front area downward staircase
 

here the safety railing for the holdhatch in the intermediate deck is fitted. The grating of the gundeck hatch shall fit here as well
 

the freshwater Barrel with halflid and large spoon finds it`s place on portside next to the sailroom
 

self explaining.....
 

upper well Containment with 4 chainpump tubes and bottom base for the pump discharge boxes
 

Sailroom as well as pantry have Ventilation blinds fitted
 

chainpump boxes with chainwheel covers, slide Panels at dischargeports and drainplugs at lowest Point. Also the rum-Barrel with tap is waiting for first filling
 

the rum-Barrel finds it`s place starboard of the mizzenmast Position in the officers quarter of the intermediate deck
 

starting with the gundeck
 

gundeck from pine-planked 1 x 3mm strips on 0,8mm ply Basis. The deck will be slipped in from above as I described earlier in this log

8th lot of my Pegasus buildlog......
 

note, the sternpost has been sanded down to half its width Prior to planking, so final width after planking and sanding is at average 4,5mm`, trust that the rudder shall later on be of this thicknness at it`s widest thickness
 

the 3 mm width planking of deck and walls are identical (3mm x 64=192mm in reality, seems realistic, being about 1,5 width of the sailors shoes). By the way, all Deck and wall planking edges are charcoaled by means of a soft pencil. This gives the tarline effect regarless to thickness even after sanding
 

allthough many wooden structural parts, the hull is of remarkable low weight and still stiff and rigid
 

selfexplaining view
 

view aftwards, now in foreground the sailroom has been added, behind are grating on hold hatch, Upper well housing and pantry. On starboard side traffic corridors, sailorcrew and marinesoldiers accomodations. Between upper well and pantry (here not visable) a staircase goes down to the cargo floor. This may be the main trafficway for fast Access from the filling room (under the waterline) via aft staircase in the intermediate deck up to the gundeck
 

same Features with view from top, aft
 

birds view intermediate deck nearly complete.......
 

the sailroom space seems to be limited, but could not be increased due to spaces between surrounding facilities
 

interior staircases fitted with railings to increase safety in battle and when ship is rolling
 

again intermediate naval inspection..., the officer means that in a far future a day will come, where even the stairs will have to equiped with handrails
 
 
at this Moment I have`nt made up my mind yet if I should apply coppering, White "Antifouling Appeal" that allows the plank and grain structure to be recognised, or nothing of both.
Would appreciate any fellow builders coments on this....

Section 7 of my Pegasus build-log......
 

 

 
here it can be seen that the Access when working from above is still reatively easy, even in scale 1:64
 

 

 
this is the first sample 6 pounder I put roughly together to check dimentions, positions. The best suitable gunbarrels and carriages I found at RB-Models Webshop. They provide even Little kits, every modellist shall modify anyhow..... here I fitted splints into the axises and brass hoops around the wheels, further improvement pending
 

 

 
the hight of gunbarrel passing through gunport hatch is OK straight away, the Barrels are 32 mm long (6 pounders)
at this stage ´m not quite sure if I should apply chemical blackening to the brass parts
 

 
from abone sight is given (portside) right down to keel and cargodeck floor
The portside gun supportbeam-rails have not been fitted Jet
 

looking aftwards we find the pantry established rear of the upper well Containment, in the foreground is a removable grating over the hold hatch in the intermediate deck. The opening shall be secured by a brass railing and left open later on
 
 

looking into the pantry room from above
 

this also gives an Impression of the single layer planking edge (appr. 1,3mm after sanding the outside

following Mark`s advice here are the continuing sections 6 and 7 of my Pegasus build-log
 

 
here at the sternplate there are horizontal openings, this is where I find Counter Position for placing the clamps during planking. Also when the decks are slipped in through the Frames from above, the deck can be pushed out rear to appr. 1/3 of ist length til the front part flushes into the correct Level. Then push back the deck bowwards
 

 

 
The naval inspector angerly does not approve cardboard interior.....
 
 

several bukheads have to be planked from both sides and equiped with vent openings in the 18 century type doors
 

 
the gratings are prefixed with Framework and then fitted into the appr. deck positions. Tight fit, so they need not permanently be glued in
 

 
I Chose for interior the natural Woods pine for decks and walls, mahagony for frames, buche(german Name)for pillars, boxwood for stairs
 

around the upper well area have to be carefull not to dammage the venetian Lamellen of the Containment
 

it must have been about 25 doors fixed in the total of the visual walls in corridors and side cabin rooms. Note that the portside interior has been left away to enable sight from above and exterior
 

one of the front bulkheads ( from the cargo deck floor to the intermediate deck above
 

I know this Looks a Little bit like Finnish Sauna, but it`s not too fancy, so the 18th century in Crew quarters sends greetings, and the Budget of the admiralty is running low, because most of it has been spent on the five swan class vessels Prior to this build

I finaly managed to get my first thread posted in this "scratch build logs in Progress" and under way.
This is comprising the Swan Class Sloop Pegasus not from the kit, but by Amati / Victory Models plan, recently purchased from an Italian models distributer Internet shop. I also bought the etched brass Panels which carefully soldered in multylayer mode provide splended, satisfying results in 3D optic Appeal.

For this model in 1:64 scale I have the intention to leave about 40 % of the port side Hull and decks unplanked, to scale the correct heights of all the decks and to fit the interior cabins and other operation facilities. Inspired by ways admiralty model displayed sight into the hull, the starboard side shall be completly tidy-planked in 1 layer structural planking. all frames are made from 10 layer ply in complete thickness of 5,5 mm. This allows to cut very filigrane and to keep the hight between decks to scalewise fit the tallness of the 1:64 crew. Appropriate to the stage of building I started to document all details in digitilised Fotos and would like to share these step by step with forum users / model builders showing interest. (more to follow)
 
So here she goes......
(inclusive the first 10 pics)






 
the Frames are taken from copies Templates out of  the plan and fixed to 5,5 mm thick 10 layer ply10 , the rest is done by good old jigsaw cutting out. Notice appr. 30mm hight space between the 4 decks


 
this base-board enables a straight twistfree build of the hull


 
the Frames are extreme light, stiff and stong enough to withstand bending of stringers planking


 
the 1:64 figures I used for Demonstration have 28mm hight this would be 1,79m in reality, presuming the 18th century seamen  were smaller in those days, one I would recomend to use 25mm figures this in reality would be 1,60m









 
forestanding pics should be self explaining, but notice that the bow and the keel beam is only supplementory. In order to avoid the time intensive rabet-cutting, the final bow- and keel wood beams shall be fitted after planking. This will give a clean and tidy look, as if the planking were fitted very precisely into actual rabets.

I am seeking for means to edit the pictures with text explainations but find no "Editor" button, nor a "full Editor" one, allthough the pics seem to be in this post post, who can kindly help ?
 
Reload...., so finally I think it works with the editing and text for zthe pics.
At this stage my sincere thanks to all fellow members and Moderators who gave assistance in pushing out the boat !
 
So here follows the second lot of the build log Pictures and explainations

 



the beginning of placing stringers and first planking
 


importent step. Integrate at two places into the keel Little brick looking brass wedges with female M4 threads. These take up the stand bolts, M4, and allow secure model Display on stand, for later rigging purposes etc.






 
self explaining pics, notice the sidewise fixed reinforcements at the wedge positions
 


inspection hatch in cargo deck floor, to enable Access to bilge area
 




two impressions of the bow area
 


birds view of the keel Stern area, the Little pillars supporting the next higher decks, are from RB Models, Internet shop, in Polen
 
 
 
This is presenting the third lot in my build log.......
 

planking of starboard side is well under way. It comprises a single layer of 5, 6, and 8mm planking 1,5mm thick strips pf nutwood. Sanding down the outer roughnesses leaves about at least 1 to1,2 mm remaining thickness.
 

cargo base deck is mounted. To answer the question how decks are placed into the hull? Pls note that they shall be slipped in from above. Is is easy because the deck is of 0,8mm ply and preplanked with 1 x 3 mm Planks. The shaping and Fitting is done from cardboard templates. Here the "shipyard baseplate" could allready be removed, as the lightweight hull is very riged and free of windings.
 

Sbd side planked except for a few Planks where I Need Access to the interior. for those who are missing the square Little oar outcuts, pls note theat These will be cut in later on when the inner bullwark is being planked. I have bee able to avoid any gram of putty on the entire hull, because that would desturb naturak wooden optic.
 



startet with "aft platform" room set up, but placed this on the cargo floor Level, even here the portside floor is open, right down to the keel
 











showing the aft wall with the filling room inspection window




 
here the lower well area including the shot locker, and visable the inspection hatch for the bilge
 
Notice !
for interested forum users / members / staff, pls. be advised that this build-log shall be requently updated by editing this thread. If there is a better way of doing so, pls advise
 
Nils
 
This presents the fourth lot of my Pegasus build-log........
 
 



aft section with mizzenmast footblock

 

upper well containment and outcut in intermediate deck for hold Access. Here either a safety railing shall be fitted or a grating (same grating size as on the gundeck in above place)
 

aft staircase and grating
 

Tower of upper and lower well and shotlocker
 



here is an early Impression of how the unplanked port outcut shall look like
 

eartly view on to intermediate deck from aft poopdeck
 

the naval inspector has no objections so far. in the foreground the additional beams can be seen that rest on the strigers at appr. 3mm below decklevel, to allow appr. compensation in hight. 
 
 

one of the shipyard workers has just finished the days cleanup. Here it very nicely can be seen the 10 layer ply of the Frames, even though the total Frame thickness is 5,5mm only
 




intermediate deck, ready for completing the interior operation rooms (use cardboard templates). Note that for better viewing from the outside, all the portside rooms shall be left away (will be crowded enough afterwards)
 
 
Here comes the fifth lot for my Pegasus build-log
 
 

view to the aft half
 



view to the bow section quarters on cargo floor
 

open port side, opening still to be reduced a bit
 

preplanking of rthe intermediate deck
 

view without the upper decks
 

storage and Crew quarters in bow area
 

 
  
the target was at this building stage, not to compete with the fabulous 1:48 scale "swan class Sloops" and their builders introduced in this forum in any way, but just to please myself for transferring own idias into humble modeling results and in scale 1:64
 
Nils

Finally a few days of vacation, I take this opportunity to go forward with a little work. Here are some photos of the deck of the schooner.
Mauro

Well....... I thought I'd better get a couple pictures posted just to confirm that there is a build going on here. The following pictures are just showing the bulkheads being set, I should be thru either to-nite or tomorrow, then I'll add the filler blocks and some in between bulkhead supports.
   The quality of the ply is not very good, so I have to be very careful . The ply that Caldercraft uses is a lot better. So I kind've smile at it all the time so it doesn't get made and break in half
 
 
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
 

Build log part 24
 
 
 

chainpump Station with housing, drain plugs, the discharge sides ore closed whith slide shutters
 

crank handles for chainpumps and Forward bearing supports, and Support for the spare masts and spars as well as Posts and belaying rack. The three mid Pins will be replaced with smaller ones
 

the grating cover of the main load hatch is and stays removeable
 

 
 

 

it is amazing how fast the dust settles in the open portside interior, Need to carefully brush it out now and then
 

all the aft cabin bulkheads are waiting to be set
 

it was always my wish and Intention to have a figurehead in cast brass instead of resin, it was impossible to get it anywhere, acc. to Chris Watton Amati would`nt do it because they favour resin, but I would not give up..., so now after Research and activity I have my own prototype one in scale 1/64 and it fits very well and gives the model a Special note
 

 

 
 
 
Nils

If I fit the transoms I had a big trouble. The reason was a wrong angle at the top-view plan.
On the following photo you can see the correct angle and the discrepancy.

 
If I know that it was possible to fit transoms.







 

Peg looks really super Nils.....the wavy cut away is neat to see. interested to hear how you came up with the metal figurehead.....it looks very nice.

Fabulous work Nils!There is a real myriad of detail for the eyes to feast on   The figurehead casting is of amazing quality,definitely worth the extra work outsourcing it as resin wouldn't have cut it with chosen colour scheme.
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Thank you very much indeed Nils There is a concave aspect to the bow that has more in common with a PT boat than a 17th century warship!
 
Kind Regards
 
Nigel

Build log part 24
 
 
 

chainpump Station with housing, drain plugs, the discharge sides ore closed whith slide shutters
 

crank handles for chainpumps and Forward bearing supports, and Support for the spare masts and spars as well as Posts and belaying rack. The three mid Pins will be replaced with smaller ones
 

the grating cover of the main load hatch is and stays removeable
 

 
 

 

it is amazing how fast the dust settles in the open portside interior, Need to carefully brush it out now and then
 

all the aft cabin bulkheads are waiting to be set
 

it was always my wish and Intention to have a figurehead in cast brass instead of resin, it was impossible to get it anywhere, acc. to Chris Watton Amati would`nt do it because they favour resin, but I would not give up..., so now after Research and activity I have my own prototype one in scale 1/64 and it fits very well and gives the model a Special note
 

 

 
 
 
Nils

Thank you Popeye,
 
I wanted to have the figurehead in brass and found nothing suitable in look and in scale size.
 
I just asked a smaller shop that does Investment castings for models in brass and bronze for boat fittings, mmodel guns, trainwheels, etc. even in 1 ea. quantity, and this small sort of stuff, if they can do the figurehead after my resin sample, so they gave it a try..
 
Nils

stunning midget blocks...
 
after learning from Chucks Kind advice that the rope and the blocks I had intended to use were far too large, I followed his advice to use maximal 3mm Long blocks and 0,3mm diam rope for gun Tackling in scale 1/64.
 
I then changed my simple Trial mock up for the gun Tackling using 4mm blocks on the right side (also too large) and the recommended 3mm ones on the left side and am very pleased with the optic result of the 3mm blocks. Also the Problems with the too Long length of the tackle versa the given space between bulwark and carriage eyelet is no longer existing. The breech rope diam. also Looks good. Thanks for your good advice Chuck.
 
It is incredible in what precision and quality These mini blocks are fabricated to, never seen such before !
 
Nils
 
 

from left to right... 4mm, 3mm, 2,5mm 2mm blocklength
 

left Hand 3mm block tackle is OK for scale 1/64, right side (too large 4mm tackle)

Today a surprise..
 
with only 5 days for postage US to Germany ! I received sample blocks from Chucks shop today. They really look fantastic, are of super precision and Quality, so I started straight away to do a typical sample Gun Tackling by using the 4mm blocks
1 x 2 sheave and 1 x 1 sheave
I Chose the natural hemp Color rope 0,5mm diam from 100% Polyester and had to increase the sheave hole borings in the blocks to 0,8 mm. I am happy with the result regarding to the realistic look.
When the rigging starts, I find it is a must to us These fine looking blocks
 
Nils
 

 

Status update....
 
drilled the 6 bulwark holes for the oars using a copied template from my plan on starboard side, am filing These square now
 

 

 
 
 
Nils

Build log part 23
 
 
 
I would so much like to carry on with the bow area, but realize that there is a lot to still be done underneath the forecastle deck first. Think I will have do the stove and other Details in near future
 
 

the portside guns will be rigged Standing on the Support rails under the carriage wheels
 

all te svivel gunposts are only in "raw" condition, may want to get them 8-sided in upper portions
 

Status overview
 

just Setting the new guns in place for Dimension checking
 
 

I tryed to get the rudder coppering only, shiny again, used Lemon concentrate Juice, it works very easy
but I don`t know if I should have done that. I love the greenish Patina look like some others have tryed already
 
 
 
Nils