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Not sure really - I am curious though. I don't know if Interlake's new build has all that piping. CSL's new ships also have the piping, but not the big exaggerated fins on hatching combings. I am going to ask around and see if I can get info on why they were designed like that.

@Roger Pellett Interlakes new build is coming along. Will look a lot like Algoma's new river class ships...see Algoma Intrepid. The 3 fins on each side of the hatches is different and challenging. There is also piping running along both sides too going thru the fins. Have to decide how much I want to try to include. Hatch crane clips on top probably won't happen....too small at that scale. Canada Steamship Lines new Trillium class ships don't have hatch combings like Algoma's.

I have actually considered doing a card stock paper scratch build. Just have problems darkening the lines drawings for the plans got. Plus I have a couple builds going on right now so........time.

Here are more details of my build as it stands. Bulwark at front will be styrene attached to the wood with appropriate openings cut out. No idea how I am going to tackle the complex hatches - close up of the real ones are in this group. Windows on the bridge deck are going to be a big challenge too, and I posted about this in a different post.

Also have a smaller 1:250 size started, but fittings for the 1:200 are going to be easier to find, and it's close to the 1/16" - 1ft that many like to model at. Here is the progress on the superstructures of both:

Seeing as I started this and didn't post a log from the start, here is the catch up version. Using solid basswood for the hull. 740ft ship at 1:200 scale makes this about 44" long, and about 4.5" wide. I have a set of drawings for this ship, that are actually shipyard drawings, but there are no lines drawings, and not sure if they even exist. This wasn't too much of an issue because it's a pretty simple shape. I had to join 2 pieces of basswood together as I was limited to what size I had available locally, and there are no balsa suppliers anywhere near me that have blocks this big. Superstructure/stern castle is made of balsa, made one deck at a time to allow for walkways, ladder access, etc. Seems like this has worked good so far. Because this the latest/greatest modern ship on the lakes, a lot of things like the hatches are super complex, so not sure how I am going to tackle the details to make them look authentic - you can see the pic in the first post what I am talking about, or can browse pics of the ships of this class on www.boatnerd.com, or the company site www.algonet.com

Here is my second lake freighter in progress. The following is taken from boatnerd.com and gives a brief run down on this new class of bulk carrier. Picture is actually taken along the Detroit River where I live 2 blocks from. The Algoma Central Corporation has been engaged in an ambitious fleet renewal program. The fleet has ordered five new ships capable of Great Lakes service and will manage two others of this Equinox Class for the Canadian Wheat Board. All are being built overseas in China. Algoma Equinox is the first of the new Equinox Class of Great Lakes freighters built for the Algoma Central Corporation. It was constructed by Nantong Mingde Heavy Industries Stock Co. of Nantong City, China. The 740 foot long by 78 foot wide gearless bulk carrier was launched on December 24, 2012, and sailed for Canada on October 1, 2013. This vessel, and its sister-ships, operate with a 45 percent improved energy efficiency and can carry 20 percent more cargo. It also has a much lower fuel consumption with the benefit of a 97 percent removal of sulphur oxide emissions. Highly automated, the ship can operate with as few as 18 sailors. After crossing the Pacific and passing through the Panama Canal, Algoma Equinox loaded iron ore while inbound at Port Cartier, Quebec. The ship was upbound through the Seaway for the first time on December 3, 2013, and headed to Hamilton to unload at Arcelor Mittal (Dofasco). It then sailed to Superior, and loaded ore for Cliffs Natural Resources in Quebec City. The ship spent its initial winter in Toronto and then received the top hat in a ceremony at Lock 3, St. Catharines, Ont., as the first ship of the 2014 navigation season to use the Welland Canal. After being part of the battle with late winter ice, Algoma Equinox headed to Lake Superior in convoy and with ice-breaker assistance. But as the ice melted, the ship soon settled in on the Seaway ore and grain trades and will hopefully be a regular trader on the inland seas for many years to come. Here is the one of her sister ships sailing on the Detroit River and am hoping to come up with a reasonable scale model...

Had a problem logging for a while, but figured it out! Will be posting some updates this weekend hopefully. Did not get much model work done this summer - just too many other things going on. Plus I started a new build, which I will post on here an update where I am at. Had a fittings issue, where the fittings I ordered got lost in the mail twice, so basically any builds stopped for probably 2 months!

Been a boatnerd my whole, living near the Detroit River - St. Lawrence Seaway, and also a major port on the seaway. However.......my quest to find models of these kinds of ships is like finding a hay colour needle in hay stack. Or a looking for a non-existent needle is more like it. I've learned that basic model kits like you'd find for famous warships or Titanic, just aren't, and never were made for your everyday merchant ships that carry grain and iron ore. Likely, it's such a niche area of interest, manufacturers figure there isn't a market, well there is! I suppose it could be licensing/rights/etc. So.....now me, current mid 40s boatnerd, decided to do it myself, after talking to many people online and at local hobby shops - every person says "scratch built", so I found this site as an extra added resource - and it's fantastic despite having not a lot of the same ship model that I want to do. However, that doesn't mean you don't have access to a wealth of information from other modellers builds. I have been able to take ideas/advice from members on here that have helped me tremendously. The key part is doing research - especially for new modeller. That doesn't mean start too easy, but look at pictures, read up on the ship(s), look at what materials you might want to use and of course have access to. Also for tools - don't go and spend a ton of $ (if you don't really have it) for a bunch of tools that you might not end up using if you don't carry on with this hobby. This is a very rewarding hobby, and can get quite expensive too. Also, don't rush your build, especially your first one. Make the best of your time, don't be scared to make mistakes or be anxious of not having a museum quality model with your first attempt (or 2 or more). One word of caution I wish I could go back and give myself.....be careful when acquiring plans/prints - only get/process what you need! I got an amazing resource of shipyard plans for my next build - didn't take the time to go through the prints and brought them to a local shop to have 2 copies printed. Well let me say this....... I nearly fell on the floor when I went to pick them up and saw the invoice. There were so many rolls of plans I had to have the worker help me take them to my car!!!!! My wife, who totally supports my hobby(ies) understood and didn't make me sleep in the garage for a month. My excitement got the best of me. Then to have the lady at the print shop say she thought I was building a huge ship locally and I worked for a shipyard or engineering firm.......well guess what lady - I know your staff thought my plans were super cool - but there are no shipyards within 400km of me to undertake such a project! Really though - the most important thing is - don't give up on it, and have fun with it - enjoy your hard work and creativity.

Fantastic - this is the kind of work I strive for as I am getting into this world of model ship building.

Here is a late Hello and Welcome to the forum from SW Ontario! Great resources and members here.

I just got a shipment from Tom's Model Works for the photo etched brass 2 rail railing.....wow are these tiny!!!!! Going to be interesting to work with for the first time!!!!! So fragile looking.

Will be posting some updated pics soon. I've got the paint on as per the plans, as well as ref photos. Just some comments on my first build: 1) Always double check your plans for accuracy! I got excited/impatient to get going and so far into my build when I realized the person I got the plans off, must have scaled them down so they fit on an easily reproducible size of paper. Instead of being a true 1/16" - 1ft scale, they are probably about 20 - 25 % smaller than that. Model is supposed to be approx 46 inches, but is more like 34 inches. Makes it a pain to find fittings in appropriate size. Beginners mistake! 2) Get input on areas (on here or wherever) for using materials you are not familiar with or haven't worked with. eg. I tried to use .030 styrene parts of my pilot house area and bulwarks/trim. It does not bend easily and is very brittle. Moved down to .020" and so much easier to work with. 3) Patience is key. I am taking my time, not rushing, and learning new skills/methods. Also to this point......I lack a few more important tools such as a bandsaw, so learning to improvise with what I have, or to ask my wife for for Xmas this year. 4) Don't be scared to borrow/use methods of those you have gone before you. Perfect example.....I found this build https://modelshipworld.com/topic/15581-ss-michelangelo-1962-by-shipmodel-finished-1350-scale/ and it helped me for making the front bulwark and for sure for my next build - so thank you to this member. What a great time I've had with this....I find that if I can't squeeze in some build time on a day that I feel like I wasted some time. I am going to "make it work" on some of the finer details, mostly due to point #1. I will have to leave things out too, as I don't have access to the correct parts, nor the skills/materials/tools to construct them, especially at how small they have to be. Remember, this is a 730 ft ship being shrunk to about 34 inches....those are some really smaller bollards, etc! I already have 2 more sets of plans in my possession for my next 2 builds. One set is even of a class of ships just built in the last 10 years for the Great Lakes. She is certainly not going to be museum quality, but something I know I will be proud to display and strive to make my next one better. One last comment for this post.... and I know I mentioned in my intro post or another one, Great Lakes freighter stuff is HARD to find. Fittings from places like Tom's or Bluejacket (and others) are not really in the freighter market. Yes, a lot of fittings are pretty general, but many you just have to wing it. I could not find a lot of parts I needed in the right scale, or at all ( like a 4 blade prop small enough! ).

At the point now where it is time to prep for painting. Will finish other details once hull is painted. What is recommended for painting basswood? Do I use primer or a primer/sealer before the main colour?

Kitkraft has dry rub lettering that are supposed to be easy to use

Latest update.....been working on constructing the fore and aft deckhousing and all 21 hatch covers.

I have heard there were new hull plates set aside at Fraser for the Fitzgerald. I know a lot of thdcships from this era were undergoing lengthening...typically adding 120 feet to increase to 767ft LOA. The Fitz was launched at 730 ft (729 to be exact), andvwent down at that. Also shecwas undoubtedly due in the near future to be converted to a self unloader. As for these plans.....it says they were drawn by David A. McDonald in December 1978, prepared for the Great Lakes Maritime Institute and Dossin Great Lakes Museum.

I found them on eBay. They are a copy of a set of model plans that was drawn up for the Dossin Museum in Detroit....which is across the river from the park at and of street... Original plans are 1/16" - 1ft with model being about 46 inches. Once I got started I realized the guy selling them must have scaled it down to make it easier to copy/sell because my Fitz is closer to 34". I wanted to stay accurate to the plans so what could i do as a first time builder. I'm going to run into problems when it comes time to source appropriately sized fittings.

The Wood Mill in Tecumseh, ON (just east of Windsor). They don't have balsa, but have a huge selection of wood. I found that large size chunks of balsa are virtually impossible to find anywhere near me. There is a place in Colorado that has it, but with shipping costs, customs, and shipping delays due to covid, along with the US to CDN dollar converstion - it wasn't worth the cost

I guess I never realized how far reaching Gordon Lightfoot's song really was. I'd even venture a guess and say most people outside of the Great Lakes region know much about these ships as most never venture outside of the St. Lawrence Seaway, whereas us boatwatchers get to see ships from around the world from bulk carriers, to tankers, to heavy lift ships.

For the bottom of the stern...... This was quite challenging and I thought of all the different ways to get to where I need/wanted to be. Basically used my dremel with a toothed attachment and cut out small chunks to get to the right areas from the centerline of the keel as well as the right heights from the bottom. I now have the basic shape - which I have had to fill in with wood filler and sand down, where I am happy that I can now move on to the topside features. I am being 100% honest on this. With having reference pics, the plans (lines drawing was really helpful), and a ton of patience, most of the shaping on this picture came down to 'eyeing it'. Overall I am very happy with how this has progressed so far.

As you can see in the last pic above, I started to lay out the cross sectional lines which would represent the appropriate sections as noted on the lines drawing that is on the prints I have. I really had to think hard on this once I chose this method for my build. Do I do the basic mid-section as one piece and then do the fore and aft sections in a sandwich method and then attach them? I just figured it would be much easier for me to do it as one solid piece. Figuring out the intricate curves of the bottom of the hull at the stern was a rather daunting task. Keep in mind, I have limited tools. I have a scroll saw, and table and chop saw. For the more detailed work that was next....I have an oscillating ool with attachments and finally get to use my Mastercraft (Canadian Tire brand) dremel tool that has bits that are quite good for using on basswood.

After I found my source for basswood, I quickly decided that this might the easier way to proceed for the hull. I got a large chunk of basswood, and once home I squared it up and cut it in half - so I have the base for my next freighter too! I used the pattern from my set of plans and had to borrow a family members bandsaw to cut the shape of hull.

I first started to do the bulkhead method, but with limited tools at my disposal (and no money to get any right now), I set this aside. Here is where I was at after tracing out cross sections from the set of plans I have and using a very old, but still quite capable scroll saw.

Pardon any formatting errors - My first build log, and first build. Trying to follow the conventions on this site. Quick blurb about me (if anyone cares...lol). I was 2 years old when this ship went down, so I obviously have no recollection of ever seeing it sail up/down the Detroit River on it's regular run carrying taconite (iron ore pellets) from Lake Superior ports to the steel mills in Detroit and Ohio regions. Born, raised, and still live only a couple blocks from the Detroit River on the Canadian side in Windsor, Ontario. Been a boatnerd my whole life, and still am. Have visited the museums near me (Dossin in Detroit, and the old one in Vermillion, OH which I believe is now located in Toledo, as well as multiple trips to the St. Catharines Museum and Welland Canals Centre in St. Catharines, ON). I did consider a career on the lakes, but at time I decided I go another route. From the time I was a young boatwatcher I have always wanted to built a model freighter - sadly no mass market companies ever got into this sub-genre of models. Which brings me to 2020 and finally deciding at 47 years of age to finally tackle this on my own. Built by Great Lakes Engineering Works in River Rouge, MI (the history of GLEW is fascinating itself - I highly recommend anyone interested in it to read up on it's history - not sure how well known they were outside of the Great Lakes region). The Fitzgerald was launched the summer of 1958. Owned by Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance, and operated by the Columbia Transport division of Oglebay Norton Corp. At launch it was the largest ship on the lakes and set numerous records during her career. The launch is interesting in that it took 3 times for the champagne bottle to break during the christening. Also the sideways launch was not only delayed due to difficulties removing the keel blocks, but once it hit the water many of spectators were drenched and it even hit the pier before settling. On Nov 10, 1975 she was lost in a major storm on Lake Superior with wind gusts approaching hurricane force and large waves likely over 25ft tall. A ship (Arthur M Anderson) that was following the Fitzgerald recorded wind gusts of 81-86mph and waves up to 35ft. Keep in mind, she was fully loaded with over 26,000 tons of taconite, so was surely sitting very low in the water. Why I chose the Fitzgerald for my first build: Great Lakes freighters have always been a hobby and interest of mine (see above). Ironically, with the covid pandemic getting plans for any ship proved to be a challenge, as most sources for plans for this type of ship were/are shut down or severely restricted. I was able to get a set of plans from eBay for this ship. Method: I tossed around the idea of doing a bulkhead/frame with balsa sheeting, and then a combination of balsa and styrene for the hatches, pilot house, etc. I actually started this method but stopped. Again, with access to materials and shipping to me in Canada, I found a local specialty wood dealer who stocks basswood, so I made the decision to do a solid basswood hull. I started sometime in early July (I think). I will do some catch up photos and notes, and then post as I go. Here is a pic of how she looked in 1971 - so hopefully my model looks pretty darn close to this!