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François de Saint Nazaire

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  1. Very good news for the "froggies"! I'm very interrested La Tourterelle : A 24-gun french frigate built in Honfleur and commissioned in May 1794. Displacing 350 tons with a length of 38.20 meters, she was captured by the British frigate HMS Lively off Cape Lizard on 13 March 1795. Renamed HMS Tourterelle, the corvette was sunk in 1816 to serve as a breakwater in Bermuda.
  2. Hello, The hull planking is in progress. There are still 14 strakes to go on each side, so the work could be finished in approximately one month. The garboard strake has been fitted. I taper and bevel all the strakes
  3. Thanks, Glenn, for your log with details. It is very kind of you to share your difficulties Bonne journée/ Have a nice day
  4. The book by Gilberto Penzo is very interesting. Another good reference is "Trabaccoli e Pieleghi" by Mario Marzari. There is also Bateaux et batellerie de Venise by G.B. Rubin de Cervin. And a book from Luciano Keber. the translation in french is not good !
  5. hello. I suggest to read the document "SIMPLE HULL PLANKING TECHNIQUES FOR BEGINNERS" link : ia902806.us.archive.org/28/items/boatbuildingmanual/hull planking project.pdf
  6. Hello, Thank you for sharing the pictures. Pavel Nikitin is clearly a strong reference. I'm curious, how did you achieve the color of the deck?
  7. Hello, I've started the planking process. The first two planking strips below the main deck are 4 mm wide, and the next four below them are 5 mm wide along their entire length. I'm installing one strip per day ! All planking strips are made from 1.5 mm x 5 mm strips. After the first six strips, the remaining strips will require tapering and shaping. @+
  8. I finish the interior of the model. We now prepare the model for planking the hull. Begin by sanding and beveling the edge surfaces of the bulkheads at both the bow and stern. This will allow the planking strips to fit correctly. For the bow, bevel the bulkheads while preserving the integrity of their rear (aft) surfaces. Bulkhead 2 requires the most significant bevel. Additionally, bevel the outer side edges of components 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4, and then affix them in their designated positions. For the stern, bevel the bulkheads, ensuring the front (forward) surfaces remain untouched. Bulkhead 14 requires the most extensive beveling. Similarly, bevel the outer side edges of components 14.1, 14.2, 14.3, and 14.4, and then secure them in their respective locations. For the next step, I will fill the spaces between the bulkheads, particularly the bow and stern, with balsa supplied by MarisStella in the box.
  9. Thank you Jacques, I've learned many things. I'm sure you will find the answers. The picture comes from Mario Marzari's book (Trabaccoli)
  10. Hello, For the trabaccolo, the crew consisted of a captain (pàron), often a co-owner and three to seven sailors depending on the size of the trabaccolo. The master could also be a co-owner of several units. This was the case with seafaring families. Members of the same family served on different boats belonging to several members of that family. This way, the risks were also spread out. The trabaccolo could be commanded by a sailor who had embarked as early as their twelfth year. The "master" was not only responsible for the boat but also for the crew and supplies. The proceeds from cabotage were distributed among all the crew members after paying all the expenses. It sometimes happened that the master's wife accompanied him on board. This could pose some problems. The sailors lodged in the bow above the hawsers and the master in the stern in a spacious cabin. The crew cabin for four sailors is finished. I've started fitting the pillars and the supporting knees, also known as hanging knees.
  11. Hello Jacques, I will follow your project with interest. Lanveoc is a small town near Brest in French Brittany. Bon courage Tonnerre de Brest ! as captain Haddock said
  12. Bonjour, I've just finished installing the beds in the aft cabin. The ladder is in place, although it is not positioned as close to the wall as indicated in the plan. I hope this will not cause any problems later. The horizontal bed boards need to be sanded to fit properly in the cabin. I had also a small piece of wood to fill a hole close the ladder. The 'paron' should be approximately 160cm tall, which is 5.0cm at the given scale. I got it from the Ancre edition, and it looks like the naval architecture in Boudriot's books.😉 The next step will be the forward beds. 😅
  13. Information about the ship 'Picoteux' that changed throughout its history. Les Labrèques, Trois générations de charpentiers-ébénistes
  14. hello Here's some information from France to help you reflect. In the 17th century, Louis XIV's goal was to master the seas and become the world's leading naval power. To succeed in this ambitious undertaking, he implemented measures commensurate with his ambitions: he increased the budget allocated to the navy tenfold, equipped seaports, multiplied naval bases, created specific training programs for naval officers, and so on. To further emphasize his power and dominance, he chose to visually standardize his maritime fleet by implementing a very specific set of specifications: all ships had to be identical. In other words, each element of any ship (hull, deck, cabin, cannon, boat, masts, etc.) had to correspond to a specific shade. It is this palette of colors, used in the Royal Navy between 1650 and 1850, that is known as the "13 colors of Vauban." Each of the colors present was selected by Vauban, the Sun King's architect" Thanks to the research of the renowned architect Jean Boudriot, we know a little more about this fascinating period. It is in his book "La Compagnie des Indes" that this naval architecture enthusiast sheds light on these 13 Vauban colors used in the French military navy. frigate Hermione : In his book, Jean Boudriot reveals that the quotes of the time mentioned the use of 57 pots of white, 51 pots of black, 110 pots of red, 42 pots of yellow, 21 pots of blue and 24 pots of glue white to paint a single ship. The dominance of the color red is reminiscent of the bloody battles that took place on these ships, thus visually attenuating the recurring blood stains. Vauban's 13 colors, and the place each occupied on the ships, can be seen at the Musée de la Marine in Paris, through very realistic models. It is also an opportunity to admire the diversity of hues used at the time. "Jean Boudriot, la couleur dans la Marine classique 1650 - 1850, Collection Archéologie Navale"
  15. In France we use Wood filler ( call Fondur) it is an impregnation that penetrates the pores of the wood and follows its dilatory movements. Therefore, it does not crack. The final appearance is a soft satin. Depending on your needs or preferences, you can leave it as is or cover it with a wax or shellac finish
  16. Hello Alistair, I hope you feel better soon. I've just finished the ceiling. I'll finish planking the bulkhead and then start on the beds. I'm taking my time. I adjusted the stern floor, but it wasn't necessary and made things more complicated. just for fun 😉 I'm sure that the bed will be a big challenge Overall, I'm extremely happy with this kit and its construction. If I encounter something I don't understand, a quick email to Zoran (MarisStella) clarifies things for me. MarisStella's customer support is simply incredible.
  17. I propose some photos of the progress. The sailor is starting to take on brilliant colors! This sailor is from the 18th century, and this is not absurd, even if his clothe suggests that he is more of a shipowner than a simple sailor. Mario Marzari informs us that the first reference to a Trabaccolo found so far dates back to 1667 and is attributed to Francesco Maria Appendini, even if it might be an interpretation of documents made by the author himself. The first actual documents that refer to this type of boat, found in Rimini by the historian Maria Lucia De Nicold, date from 1683. In Venice, on the other hand, Levi mentions the presence, in 1711, of a trabaccolo and a trabaccoletto inside the Arsenal itself. The oldest reference to the trabaccolo found in Trieste dates back to 1721, while Kandler specifies that no less than three armed trabaccoli were part of the new Austro-Triestine fleet in 1733. In 1735, this same Navy purchased several trabaccoli to arm them with cannons and swivel guns. [...] According to the old documents consulted, it therefore appears that it is only from the 18th century onwards that reference is made to a real ship called trabaccolo. It remains that the kit version is closer to the architectures of the 19th century. The vaigrage (fasciame interno) is finished up to the stringers. The mast steps of the main mast and the foremast are in place on the keelson. The mast steps of the two mooring bitts (bitta di ormeggio) are also positioned next to their respective mast. The captain's cabin is well advanced. I will have to refine the steps of the staircase; there are also the beds to install. Gilberto Penzo gives us some information on the accommodations. "The accommodations were spartan, but almost luxurious compared to those of fishing boats, due to their height and the presence of real berths. In the drawing of the Souvenirs by François Edmond Paris, in the forecastle accommodation, we can distinguish a bunk with a profiled edge, towards the bow a raised shelf that could be the third bunk and two chests or perhaps tide boxes (casse da mar). There is no hold for ropes or anchor chains. The stern one, where one could only stand between the beams, measured 240 cm long, separated from the hold with removable floorboards (palgioli) and from the stern by thin partitions (parapetti). On the wall, we see a square opening that could be the access to the bunk. The spartan furnishing is completed by a simple chest and a shelf towards the stern that could also serve as a bed. Fig. 239. Giovanni Pascoli, interior of the forecastle accommodations.
  18. Also the 60-gun frigate Belle Poule (1828–1888), famous for bringing back the remains of Napoléon from Saint Helena to France in 1840; she was under command of François d'Orléans, Prince of Joinville, and was painted black for the mission La Belle Poule maquette - OcCre
  19. Bonjour, In the museum, sometimes the hulls of the models retain the natural color of the wood. If you succeed the planking, I think it's better not to paint the hull, but it's just my opinion. Picture of the Aetna from the Kriegstein collection
  20. Good morning, Beginning the planking. The planks (serrette, verzene in old texts) are 7x1.5mm walnut strips placed on the frames (piana). Installation of the 2 acajou sheerstrakes (parascusola), 7x1.5mm strips. Beginning the planking of the bilge and cabin bulkheads. Beginning construction of the rear cabin (camera) deck for the captain (paron), which averages only 146 centimeters in height, while the crew enjoys a height of 123 centimeters at the bow! Beginning construction of the limewood bilge floor (paglioli) of 1.5x10mm. This floor is removable, allowing for the evacuation of bilge water. The kit plans are of high quality, as are the materials. The instructions should not be taken literally. Despite the scale, it is not easy to install the planking. Access between the frames for sanding and correcting is really tricky.
  21. hello, The next step is to install the bulkheads, the keelson and the supporting strips. Some strips require some bending so you may want to soak them in warm water before installing. I did it ! The next step is the ceiling. Have a nice WE
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