captainbob

Glad to see you're back.  You have a fine boat build going.
 
Bob

Back again...................
In the meantime there were so many other projects to make, that I had almost no time for my ship models
But NOW it`s time to continue with something for the DANZIG! Next things to do will be the boats of the ship, the best I canb do with them, is to copy Archjofos method of building baots, as he showed in his simply perfect La Creole build report. Wood is ordered from http://www.massiv-holz-werkstatt.de/  should arrive next week. Then I can go on again with more stuff from that great prussian steamer!
 
All the best
Gerhard

Welcome aboard, Eric.  I hope you get what you are looking for.
Bob

Welcome aboard, Eric.  I hope you get what you are looking for.
Bob

Welcome aboard, Eric.  I hope you get what you are looking for.
Bob

Thanks Mike, but don't make an extra trip just to take the picture.  I have a lot of work before I get that far but it will be nice to have the information in hand to think about how to make the parts.
 
Bob

Thanks, Nils.  I have a lot of work before I get that far but it will be nice to have the information in hand to think about how to make the parts.
 
Bob

Hi Mike,
 
Sorry, you are right, there are many windows.  In this picture, it is the lower square windows.  Above the windows there is a curved work of some kind with a design inside of it.  This is the best picture I have been able to find.
 
Bob
 

 
 

What a beautiful hull.  A good foundation for the rest of the ship.
 
Bob

Thanks Mike, but don't make an extra trip just to take the picture.  I have a lot of work before I get that far but it will be nice to have the information in hand to think about how to make the parts.
 
Bob

Hi Mike,
 
Sorry, you are right, there are many windows.  In this picture, it is the lower square windows.  Above the windows there is a curved work of some kind with a design inside of it.  This is the best picture I have been able to find.
 
Bob
 

 
 

Hi Mike,
 
Sorry, you are right, there are many windows.  In this picture, it is the lower square windows.  Above the windows there is a curved work of some kind with a design inside of it.  This is the best picture I have been able to find.
 
Bob
 

 
 

Mike there is a picture of Mariefred I need.  What is over the windows?  There is an eyebrow, and something under it.  All the pictures I have are taken from too far away, and the drawings just show it as a squiggle.  If you could get a close-up picture I would certainly appreciate it.  I will not need the picture for a month or more, so there's no hurry.
 
Thanks
Bob

Thanks, I guess,  Lawrence.  These two showed up.  They are the foremen?  Right?
 
Bob
 
 

OK! I didn't show you the building of the hull.  I'm terrible at building hulls.  I cut out the bulkhead forms and throw unshaped strips of wood on it and end up filling in a football shaper area with smaller and smaller sticks.  Then I sand all the boards that are not laying flat, which are most.  I then fill all the cracks with Elmer's wood filler, sand again, fill again, sand again, fill again, etc., etc.   I am not proud of my hulls and it is definitely not the way I see everyone else doing it.  So I paint my hulls to cover up the mess. 
 
Now did you really want to see all that?
 
Bob

Hooray,  I finally did it.  Try, try again they say, so I did.  I ended up throwing the first three tries away, but I kept the fourth.  The part is the little deck house on the lower rear deck.  You can just see a part of it in one picture, but luckily the plans are of the boat as built in 1903.  Some time ago the deck house was removed and the rear area of the lower deck was enclosed all the other pictures of the Mariefred show her this way.  I just went back and looked at the pictures I posted earlier and they are all of the more recent boat.  So here is a picture of the Mariefred  as I will be building her.
 
Bob
 
 

Lawrence,  thanks for stopping by.  I wish I were farther along but due to chronic family health problems, I only get to work on the boats, 1 - 2 hours a day, if that.  The rest of the time I'm the care giver, cook, House cleaner and . . .  Enough of that.  The Mariefred is a riveted steel boat.  And I like Nils I hope to plate her, something I've never tried before.  The other problem is figuring out what to use for some of the parts.  The upper deck supports and seating frames are 35 X 35 mm angle iron or 1.38" at scale that is .0138.  I have seen other models where they have used larger material for these parts and they end up looking bulky and out of scale.  Ah well that's the kind of problem all model builders go through.  I know, I'll set up a foundry and extrude my own material.  (Pardon the humor).
 
Bob

TB, you're right. The waterline is the same height from the building board on each station and the step at the deck makes it easy to bend that first plank to the correct shape.
 
Patrick, thanks for the encouragement.  But I'm not sure about, "flying".
 
Angarfather,  it is nice to have you and other, who have seen the Mariefred, along for this build.  If any of you see me missing something don't hesitate to point it out.
 
Bob
 
 

I finally got a start on the Mariefred.   The drawings I received from the museum in Stockholm were the best drawings I have ever received.  When I get drawings of a boat the first thing I do is scan them into my computer and open them in an ancient copy of AutoCad.   Then I check length, breadth and height as though I were designing her.  Usually there are errors that must be corrected.  But these drawings lined up and were correct.  When designing a boat the designer draws one side of each bulkhead these then have to be redrawn and each one needs to be mirrored to make a full width bulkhead.  These are then transferred to and cut out of wood sheet and mounted on a board.  That is where I am at the moment.
Bob

Well I see I'm going to have to be careful with this build.  There are too many people who have seen and/or been on her.  Well, at least when I get confused there will be people who can hopefully answer my questions.
 
Bob

Thank you Roger.  I just realized from looking at one of the drawings that she is built of metal.  I had just opened this to correct my earlier statement.  Be that as it may, I am going to build her of wood.
 
Bob 

Russ, I believe the main parts of the boat are wood.  But in some pictures such as one picture of the bow the spray guard on top of the rail is dented so it is metal. 
Welcome aboard, Michael and Nils.  I hope this turns out to be another ‘fun build”.
This is a picture dated 1903.  I will try to build to this time.
Bob
 
Bob

Mariefred
The coal-fired steamship Mariefred was built in 1903 for the trade-Enhörna Stockholm-Mariefred. She has sailed under the same name and with the same steam engine ever since.  The vessel has been owned by the same shipping company, Gripsholms-Mariefred Ångfartygs AB since 1905. All this makes Mariefred one of the worldwide unique ships and an indispensable part of Sweden's cultural heritage! 
Built at South wharf in Stockholm in 1903. Length 32.84 m, width 6.33 m. Coal-fired steam boiler.  Speed 10 knots.  230 passengers.
 
 

Hey guys, so its been almost 3 years since the last post but many things happened that made me put aside this project and in general the ships, but i learnt new stuff that im sure it will be really helpful, i opened my own studio where i sculpt and paint so i think it will be really helpful however i've forgotten lots of stuff, but well lets get to the point!

! have found a better way to make all of the blueprints! remember the sculptor clay? well it wasnt working at all, it used to get soft really quickly and since this kit is really tough to put in with all of the parts matching, i found a better way, i assembled the hull with the decks and then i drilled a whole in one of the decks in a place that later will be covered, once i did this i started sealing all of the gaps around the ship and i started melting some home made chavant clay, this clay can be as liquid as water when its warmed up but if you let it cool it gets really really hard even on room temperature, and after lots of work putting apart the ship once again i got the inner mold of the ship!! with this im planning on making the blue prints of the keel and the ribs!

Im really sorry for not taking pictures of the process but here is the picture of the demolded ship! (all the gaps will be filled) by the way do you recommend me using balsa wood strips for the planking? i would like to make my ships for RC even when i dont know much about the mechanism, thanks guys!
 
 

Hi Mike,
 
Sorry, you are right, there are many windows.  In this picture, it is the lower square windows.  Above the windows there is a curved work of some kind with a design inside of it.  This is the best picture I have been able to find.
 
Bob