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    Elia reacted to tlevine in HMS Atalanta 1775 by tlevine - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - from TFFM plans   
    The sixth beam set is relatively straight forward.  The aft bulkhead for the boatswain's cabin was temporarily removed to make installation easier.  The pillar is supposed to go through the hatch coaming.  I cheated and it is simply glued to the surface of the coaming.  There is a tenon on the superior aspect of the pillar with a mortise on the under surface of the beam.
     

     

     

     

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    Elia reacted to tlevine in HMS Atalanta 1775 by tlevine - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - from TFFM plans   
    The bitt standards are knees that extend anteriorly from the bitt pin.  They are let into the deck beams and ledges by 1".  I rough-cut the standard and then cut in the notches using the Preac saw with the blade elevated 1" above the table.  To make things more interesting, the round-up of the deck needs to be taken into consideration.  Also, the deck slopes upward towards the bow but the bitt pin is perpendicular to the water line.  That angle had to be cut on the aft side of the standard so it would fit snuggly against the pin.  Once I was happy with the fit, I transferred the shape of the standard onto the rough piece and cut it to the correct shape.  The edges are beveled.
     

     

     
    After the starboard standard was fabricated, the port one was made.  The pictures show the port standard before and after final shaping.
     

     

     

     
    The standards are bolted to the underlying frames.  The cable stopper hole is drilled near the intersection of the pin and the floor height.  It is 2.75" in diameter.  I used a #60 drill bit and then enlarged and rounded over the hole with Swiss needle files.  The hole is barely visible in the last photo.  The color difference betweeen the pin and the standard is because I put finish on the pin but will be delaying putting any finish on the standard until after the deck has been installed.
     

     

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    Elia reacted to rwiederrich in Glory of the Seas 1869 by rwiederrich - Medium clipper - discontinued in lieu of new log   
    To keep up with the build..I thought I'd show you what the composite masts look like on these American made clippers.
     
    Here is a simple drawing of how they were put together.
     
    I built these masts for my version of Glory of the Seas.

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    Elia reacted to von stetina in Lightning by von stetina - 1/96 - extreme clipper   
    I'm putting on the mizzen shrouds. Donald McKay used a sort of extra mast top, or preventer top a bit below the mast tpps on some of his ships. It must of help negate the twisting forces. It must have added a lot of strength. There are so many things like this about some of his clippers. One other is that some of Lightnings biggest sails had an "X"shaped canvas bracing on them going from corner to corner.
     
    She had an unusual  mast/yard set up, she was very wide rather than lofty. I believe that he was trying to gain power this way hoping it would keep her from heeling overly much, making her a drier ship for the passengers.  It was regarded as A very dry ship, so maybe it worked, even though the James Baines company of Liverpool added to her height. Their messing with McKay's design really irks me,. No wonder they were called wood butchers.
     
    I left each shroud piece with plenty of extra length. The back halves of the preventer tops should have been put on later as they interfered with making the shrouds top eyes as tight as I wanted. I had to test each one to see that it cleared.
     
    I used #80 Egyptian cotton for the seizings. They were started by passing a needle through to top of the eye. The needle had to be made sharper and with a longer taper. I then seized the shroud pair to their deadeyes. I put enough tension in the line to just see my mast starting to pull out of line. After all the shrouds were on I put on the mizzen forestay. Same type of tension.
     
    Shown are some of my rigging tools. A paint brush handle with  1/2 of a safety razor blade glued in cut the thread like it's not there.
    The flush cutters cut the finest thread cleanly, better than scissors. They are Lundstrum brand. After wearing out several Xuron flush cutters I sprung for the good ones. Expensive but worth it seeing how fast the others wear out.
     
    As you see the main shrouds going in you can realize why I'm working stern to bow. You can't get the foresays in otherwise.
     
    Bruce
     
     








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    Elia reacted to Decoyman in Chaloupe Armee en Guerre by Decoyman - from the Delacroix plans   
    Jeronimo,
     
    I saw your log and the photos of the finished boat - fantastic work. I hope mine is somewhere near as good (although I have my doubts… we'll see).
     
    Aykutansin,
     
    Thanks for the encouragement - do you have a build log of your own?
     
    Here are some more photos of progress to date. I've set the keelson in its recess in the mould and started adding the frames. The instructions suggest pinning through the frames. I decided to use push-pins. A big benefit is that they can be removed more easily once the frames are finished (you don't want to miss a pin after adding the planking - removing the shell from the mould would be a bit difficult…). Another advantage is that lifting a pin slightly allows the frame to be adjusted laterally until its position is perfect.
     
     
     
    I'm using apple for the frames as well as the keelson. Slicing it up into 2 x 2 mm pieces results in incredibly smooth faces straight from the saw. I give them a rub-down with 400 grit wet and dry used dry then soak them overnight. The first picture above shows all the pieces cut up: there are 30 of them, corresponding to 30 frames, each strip is 300 mm long. The second picture shows a set of timbers for a typical frame - a long piece for the floor and two shorter pieces for the futtocks.
     
    The following pictures show steps in adding the frames to the mould with the keelson in place. Interestingly nothing is glued yet. The keelson is intended to remain loose until the hull is removed from the mould, at which time it will be pinned and glued in place. Initially I soaked the wood in hot water, but I found I broke quite a few pieces trying to bend them round the sharp curve between the floor and the sides, so I added some household ammonia to the water. I am now having more success, but this may be because a] I'm getting better at forming the bends or b] I've left the wood to soak for longer or c] I tried microwaving the container with the ammonia solution before taking the wood out. Anyway it seems to be going OK!
     
         
     
    In the first three images the floors are being added; in the last three I am starting to add the futtocks. The darker pieces have been added later and are still wet.
     
     
    Rob
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    Elia reacted to catopower in 18th Century Longboat by catopower - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48   
    Done!
     
    In a marathon late night session last night, I finished my longboat. I tied the last of the rope coils into place, glued the handles on and officially declared victory. I just couldn't go one more day saying that it should be finished by tomorrow.
     
    I'll post a full set of pics in the gallery shortly.
     
    I ended up not including the grappling anchor as the casting seemed too big for the model, especially after looking at Chuck's prototype which has an anchor I really like. Perhaps in the future I'll fashion one that's smaller, but it seemed unnecessary, so I left it out. Also, I did flub the location of the flag halliards and put them on the port side instead of the starboard side as given in the instructions. That didn't seem like it was critical, so I left that as well. 
     
    Here's a final pic with more to be posted in the gallery shortly.
     

     
     
    This started out as a kit that I thought was "nice" and ended up being a really fun and challenging build that tested my skills, taught me a few things, and turned out to be a pretty sweet looking model. Chuck did a wonderful job on this kit design I have to say.
     
    I'll be building a case for it in the near future, but at least it's under a dust cover now. 
     
    Clare
     
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    Elia reacted to catopower in 18th Century Longboat by catopower - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48   
    I'm determined to finish this model up in the next week or so. During the week, I finished the gudgeons and pintles, and finished making the windlass and handles. Yesterday, I added the thole pins.
     
    The windlass is made from square stock basswood. I considered making this from boxwood but the basswood worked well enough. The hardest part was creating the holes for the handles. I drilled, poked with a pointy #11 X-Acto knife and got them about the right size. Finally, I just pushed the handle into each hole. The square section of the handle kind of evened out the square opening. It's not perfect, but I think it's about the best I'm going to do, at least this time.
     
    The thole pins were kind of interesting. I'm not much of a jig maker, but this time, I ended up taking a piece of brass and making a drill pattern so that all the thole pins are spaced a consistent distance apart. 
     

     

     
     
    Last thing on the rudder were the decorations. Again, mine were printed on decal paper. I realized at some point that I had used clear decal paper instead of white decal paper. The problem with this was that if the decals are placed directly on wood, the color are very subdued. This wasn't a problem with the friezes at the gunwales as I had already painted these areas white. For the rudder, I found that I had to paint white ovals where the decals were to be located. After these dried, I added the decals, which looked fine.
     

     

     
     
    For the handles for the rudder and the windlass, I gave up trying to make a decent looking set out of basswood. Instead, I just took some boxwood strips and made these. They are the only use of wood on the model that is not basswood.
     
     
    Clare
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    Elia reacted to catopower in 18th Century Longboat by catopower - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48   
    Thank you Bob, it's good to be here... finally! 
     
    I have to say, I originally thought the kit was just okay. But, over the course of working on it, and yes I took the long slow route, I've really come to love the way this model looks. You know, I'm tempted to do another one. If I did, at minimum, I'd try adding nails at the frames or at least simulate it. Of course, I'd better finish this one... and maybe some of those other projects that are just sitting around waiting for attention.
     
    Here's one more photo taken at the Good Sam Showcase of Miniatures in San Jose, CA a couple weekends ago. The South Bay Model Shipwrights club was given 1/2 a table to set up a display, so I brought my Mary Taylor model and this "in-progress" model. I'd made a simple base and stand for it in time for the show. I think that little bit of work on it made me realize I need to get it done.
     
    Here's the longboat displayed next to a couple 1:350 models done by Patrick Moloney, one of the other members of the group.
     
     
    And, the in-progress longboat up close. I made the base from a piece of cherry wood I had. I seldom use the router table I bought a couple years ago, so it was nice to have a quick job to do here.
     
     
    The posts are actually brass tubing over a thinner brass rod. The inner rod actually stops about 1/2" from the top of the tubing and small brass rods were fit into the keel of the longboat that fit snugly into the tubes. Works well and allows me to remove the model to work on it. I have other models where there is a fixed rod that fits into holes in the keel, but it is too easy to miss the holes when mounting the hull. The result is small dings to the keel or hull. This way, the model keeps clear of the stand until the ends of the fixed rods in the keel are fit into the tubing of the stands.
     
     
     
     
     
    Clare
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    Elia reacted to catopower in 18th Century Longboat by catopower - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48   
    With this installment, I'm about up to where I was on my other build log. I've done some work since then, but I'll leave it for another time to update the log here.
     







     
    As you can see in these photos, I've added the floorboards, risers, platforms and stern seats. I used Chuck's technique for scribing the moldings and was really happy with how they turned out. The wood is all treated with a 50/50 mix of Golden Oak and Natural stains. The paint was my own mix of acrylics. I know the brighter red is more authentic, so I chalk up the darker color mix to artistic license.
     
    In the fourth photo, if you look carefully, you can see the light shining through the thin planking above the waterline. 
     
    Finally, I did start the metal work here, shaping the kit provided brass and using the "Brass Black" solution that Bluejacket sells. I find that I get better results using their product than with A-West's "Blacken-It" product. Anyway, the blackened brass was then given a clear coat and glued into place.
     
    Clare
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    Elia reacted to catopower in 18th Century Longboat by catopower - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:48   
    Here are the photos from my second installment of the build, following up the planking with trimming the framing.
     


     
    Now we jump ahead a little because I didn't take any photos of the process of painting and applying the friezes.
     




     
    As with others, I found the printed friezes in the kit didn't fit my model. Chuck was nice enough to provide reduced size friezes, but I found that even then they were still too big. But, with the files that Chuck provided, I could simply reduce them myself to get something that would fit nicely. In my case, I reduced the art to 95% and it fit great. 
     
    The next problem I encountered with the art was that my printer wasn't producing something that I found satisfactory. It's a good printer, a Canon 780, but adjusting the color just didn't work well enough to suit me. I also tried different kinds of paper, but still not happy. Finally, I remembered I had some Testors brand decal paper and I tried that. Worked like a charm and I was very happy with the results. The color looks good, though different from the original art, and the decals are nice and thin. 
     
    Clare
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    Elia reacted to freewheelinguy in HMS Bellerophon by freewheelinguy - FINISHED - Victory Models - Semi-scratchbuilt   
    Guys, thanks for the comments.
     
    Build update:
     
    Finished adding pieces to complete this phase of the build, except for items that will be added after rigging phase is complete.  I sure if I added the stern lanterns they would be knocked off many times.  Figurehead isn't added yet either.  The one that came with the casting package has a bowed left leg (won't seat flush with stem).  These items don't bend, so I made a mold of the leg out of clay.  Would like to get a replacement from Amati.
     
    Things that were done since last update are:
    Did all the hammock netting and stanchions.  
    Added fire buckets, but didn't order enough of them.
    Made and added the additional ladders required.
    Made and added the channels, supports, eyelets, chainplates and deadeyes.
    Rigged the four guns on the FC.
    Completed the catheads, headrails and associated pieces.
    Added ship boats and tied down.
     
    Next step making the masts.  
     



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    Elia reacted to Piet in Hr. Ms. O 19 1938 by Piet - FINISHED - scale 1:50 - submarine of the Royal Navy Netherlands in service 1939 - 1945   
    Hello again friends,
     
    Today was more exploration of the conning tower.  Instead of just building the con without any working detail I "conned" myself into going hog wild.  That's why I am now taking my time to draw up the basic build as "plank on frame".  I must be sure about where all the detail stuff is placed and the measurements.  I'll have to go back to my drafting table and lay things out for this build.  It's like Remco's mantra, treat each part as a model.
     
    In addition to more thinking and sketching I painted both the stern and bow torpedo loading wells and tubes.  I also made the stern well hatch doors.  Then, in my sketching the conning tower I determined that I had to remake the dingy loading boom, which is also the center support for the hatch covers.  
    I have no detail drawings for this thing but have a fair idea how it could have been done.  For the model it'll be attached to a rotating pin at the aft end of the conning tower and can also be rotated out of the dingy compartment with a bolt through the rotating pin assembly.  The other end will have a place for a sheave and tackle and a latching hook for the lift cable.
     
    I also made two of the stern mooring thingies.
     
    Well, that's about it and below are a few pics of today's progress.
     

    This is the stern torpedo loading tube installed and painted.  The entire well is painted dark grey.
     

    This is the bow torpedo loading tube installed and painted with the pressure door closed, as well as the entire well area.
     

    This is the bow torpedo loading tube installed and painted with the pressure door open.
     

    Here are the two mooring gismos at the stern.
     

    Just for doing something else I made the lid for the mine tube bins.  Still tempting to actually cut a hole in the poor boat and install a tube with a model of a mine.  Just too much work, the area inside was not build with that in mind and it'll require a lot of very difficult work to make it look right.  It's like doing an appendectomy through your nose.   But then again, who knows, I love a challenge.  Don't get your hopes up too high John   
     

    This is a copy of a photo I have of the O 19 with all the mine bins open.  I modeled my lid after this picture.  My question is this, if anyone can lead me to a place that sells letter and number decals that look like these I'll be mighty obliged.  I also need Roman numerals for the draft markings.
     
    Cheers, 
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    Elia reacted to EdT in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper   
    Young America - extreme clipper 1853
    Part 20 – Keelson/Forward Deadwood
     
     
    American Clipper Note:  In the last part I mentioned Flying Cloud’s record on her 6 passages around Cape Horn from New York to San Francisco before she was retired from that service.  These averaged 116 days - 102 days if the last 185 day trip, during which she was dismasted, is discounted.  In her long career Young America made the passage 20 times from New York, three times from Liverpool and once from Antwerp, with an average of 118 days per trip – her best from New York being 102 days – her worst, 142 days from Antwerp against persistent headwinds.  Her best from Liverpool was 99 days.  This was a stunning 30 year performance.
     
    So, back to the model.
     
    The remaining frames forward consist of half-frames and cant frames that bolt through the keelson and deadwood.  Since the keelson is bolted atop the square frames, they must be installed first.  So, with all of the forward square frames installed, the forward part of the keelson and the forward deadwood can be constructed.
     
    In the last part I showed a picture with two strips representing the two tiers of the keelson.  The forward section of the lower tier – the keelson proper – houses the forward model mounting bolt.  In the first picture a 4-40 nut has been filed down to fit a mortise in the keelson and is being epoxied in place.
     

     
    The next picture shows the mounting bolt screwed up through the keel, filler and into the nut in the keelson.  It is protected from screwing in further by of the larger diameter shoulder butting against the bottom of the keel.
     

     
    The above picture was taken after installing the first section of the keelson.  Before that could be done it had to be fitted to the apron at its forward end.  At its aft end there is a large scarph joint with the next segment.  Both halves of this joint were made before setting the forward segment.  The joint is shown below.
     

     
    In all keel and keelson joints the face of the joint slanted downward in the aft direction.  This is one good reason for installing the keelson from fore to aft.
     
    The next picture shows the lower keelson being glued over the filler and the forward square frames.  The picture shows the joint with the second lower segment, but that piece is still loose in the picture.  The wet spots are from washing off excess glue.
     

     
    The installed piece was then “bolted” down into the keel with copper wire bolts.  That process is described below.  The bolts have been filed off flush in the next picture.
     

     
    The next picture shows the first section of the forward deadwood being fitted.  The pattern is still attached.  The keelson and the deadwood is sided the same as the keel – 16”.
     

     
    The last picture shows the insertion of the copper bolts to secure the piece of deadwood.
     

     
    This piece has already been glued in, but the process being used for the bolts will also add strength to the model joint.  First holes are drilled at a size that will allow a slip fit for the 22-gauge wire being used.  This wire is pre-stretched to stress harden it.  The holes in this case are about 1” deep, so the bolts are about a scale 6 feet long.  The bolts are dipped in 5-minute epoxy and pushed into the hole.  They are then moved in and out, removed and dipped in epoxy again, reinserted and again moved in and out.  This distributes epoxy throughout the hole.  These bolts will not come out.  When the epoxy hardens the bolts are clipped and filed off flush.
     
    As additional members are added, they are bolted in a similar way with bolts as long as my drill bits permit.  Later, additional bolts will be driven like this, through the forward part of the stem into the apron and deadwood.  The keelson bolts are installed in like manner.
     
    In the next part, the forward upper tier of the keelson and the remaining forward deadwood will be constructed.
     
    Ed
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    Elia reacted to EdT in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper   
    Young America - extreme clipper 1853
    Part 19 – Framing Continued
     
     
    American Clipper Note:  On her fourth voyage, still under Cressy, Flying Cloud left New York for San Francisco in January 1854 and set a new record of 89 days, 8 hours, just under her 1851 performance.  This record would eventually fall to Andrew Jackson in 1859 with a passage of 89 days, 4 hours.  This new record would be in dispute for years.  These matters were taken quite seriously.  Given the vagaries of wind, weather and seasonal variations, one wonders what all this recordkeeping really means.  Between 1851 and her last Cape Horn voyage in 1856 Flying Cloud's record to San Francisco included passages of 89, 113, 106, 89, 112 and 185 days.
     
    I am getting close to wrapping up the forward square frames.  The remainder of these frames – P through U are shown below after beveling as described earlier.  The narrowing of the lower hull forward can clearly be seen.
     

     
    The next picture shows the frames with cross-spales being fitted to U and P.
     

     
    The next step was to reduce the sidings of the upper futtocks and toptimbers.  This was described earlier.  The last step before erection is to install the framebolts.  These were 1” iron, unheaded, cut off flush.  They are simulated with 30 lb. test black monofilament.
     

     
    After dipping in CA the filament is slipped through the pin holes used for assembly.  There were 3 to 4 of these bolts per timber.  There are two through the rail stanchions as shown above.
     
    After gluing in, the excess ends are easily sliced off with a razor blade as shown below.
     

     
    The next picture shows the remaining forward square frames installed.
     

     
    Starting with frame R going forward the sidings are reduced and the frame spacing increased.  For example the floors go from 14” to 12” and the frame spacing from 32” to 34”.  Webb used this method to reduce hogging by lightening the forward structure where the hull buoyancy was less due to the fine entry.  This design feature was able to reduce the weight of the forward structure by as much as 25 tons in Webb's ships.
     
    On the model the spacers have suddenly gotten larger due to the increased separation.  The last two are being fitted above.
     
    Next, another picture of the framing at this stage.
     

     
    The next picture shows the connection of the last frame, Q, at the keel.
     

     
    There are two points of interest here.  First, there is the filler on the keel forward of the last full frame.  Frames forward of this one will bolt to the sides of this filler and the keelson/deadwood – soon to be added.  Second, notches in the tops of the frames at the keel can be seen.  This is to provide additional bolting height for the next few frames which would otherwise have to be bolted only at the lower 17” of their feet – not enough – in my opinion.  Additional bolting space can only be added by raising the cutting down line aft of this first half frame.  If this were done suddenly at frame V there would be a step up in the inboard planking, so to provide a fair bed for the planks, I started raising the cutting down line four frames aft, adding additional bolting height of about 7" for the first half-frame.
     
    The last picture - showing some strips representing the two tiers of the keelson - will help illustrate the above issue and also show the huge size of the keelson.
     

     
    These two 16”w x 24”h tiers ran in a straight line from stem to sternpost, bolted heavily through the frame floors to the keel.  I have placed a pencil mark on the lower keelson to show the raised cutting down height.  This additional height will allow one of the horizontal bolts for the first half frame to be driven through the lower keelson. 
     
    The model mounting bolt and nut is about to be set into the actual lower keelson once the forward end of that that is fitted to the apron and marked for length.
     
     
     
     
    Ed
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    Elia reacted to EdT in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper   
    Young America - extreme clipper 1853
    Part 1 - Decisions 
    I took most of the summer deciding whether I would undertake another ship model and if so, what the scope and subject would be.  I had a lot of time to think about this while catching up on neglected home maintenance and repair projects.  After deciding that I needed the challenge of another ambitious project, the decisions on scope and subject kept me busy through July.  I also had to decide whether I could commit to another Naiad-like build log.  We shall see.
     
    I received a number of suggestions on subjects and that input is most appreciated.  Since I expect this project to span a number of years, the decision was a big one.  I have enjoyed wrestling through the process of deciding.  I had a number of criteria:  1) significant design/drafting content, 2) fully-framed construction to further explore my interest in structures, 3) a change from the well-trod path of fully-framed 18th Century Royal Navy subjects, 4) avoiding commonly modeled ships, and 5), I thought it was time to do an American ship. 
     
    Before focusing on the extreme American clippers, I considered, among many other possibilities, a 19th Century American warship, perhaps steam-sail, and looked seriously at some of the ships by John Lenthall, built locally at the Philadelphia Navy Yard – examples: Germantown (sail), Princeton (screw/sail), Susquehanna (paddle/sail).  
     
    In the end, the idea of the extreme clipper was too attractive to dismiss.  To me, this type represents an apex of achievement in wooden sailing ship design and construction – in terms of sleek hull lines, sailing performance, structural development and sheer beauty.  In the design of the extreme clippers, minimum tradeoffs were made to the one paramount design parameter  - achieving the shortest sailing times between far-flung ports.  Speed meant not only sleek hull lines and a spread of canvas, but also the strength to withstand continuous hard driving, day-in, day-out. 
     
    After deciding on the clipper – and an American (meaning all wood) clipper - I chose the work of William H. Webb of New York.  It would have been easier to select something from his more popular competitor, Donald McKay, but McKay’s ships built at East Boston, have long been widely modeled – Staghound, Flying Cloud, Lightning and others. McKay’s papers do include substantial structural detail – very tempting.  Webb, too, has left papers, and these have been explored, with information published in the secondary sources I have used.  There are many gaps, but there is a family resemblance in details to all these ships and many practices and scantlings were commonly adopted.  Webb presented more of a challenge – in more ways than one – as I will describe later. 
     
    Of Webb’s ships, I chose Young America, built in 1853, his last extreme clipper.  Less is known about her construction than some of his others, so the task of piecing her structure together is more interesting.  I will discuss this, the ship, and the extreme clipper era in the next posts.
     
    Below is a photo of Young America, docked at San Francisco, a frequent port of call for her.  She was built mainly for the East Coast to California trade.  In the picture she is rigged with double topsails - a modification from her original single topsail rig.  There are also some paintings of her.  She was considered Webb’s masterpiece – one of his twelve clippers in a list that included renowned ships like Challenge, Comet, Invincible, Flying Dutchman – all of these examples being 200 to 240 feet in length. YA enjoyed a thirty-year career that included fifty passages around Cape Horn.  She set a number of sailing records and earned a ton of money for her various owners – and for those who made money betting on passage times.  In 1883 she left Philadelphia carrying 9200 barrels of Pennsylvania case oil, cleared Delaware Bay and was never heard from again.
     

     
    The model may be fully rigged.  I will decide later.  With the hull length involved (240’) the scale is likely to be 1:72, but that is not yet cast in stone.
     
    Structural drawings are well along and I expect to start construction later in September.
     
    I hope these posts will be of interest and perhaps draw some attention to this somewhat neglected modeling genre.
     
    Ed
     
     
     
     
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    Elia reacted to EdT in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper   
    Young America - extreme clipper 1853
    Part 18 – Framing Continued
     
     
    American Clipper Note:  Flying Cloud was launched from Donald McKay’s yard at East Boston a month before Challenge.  She was of comparable size, and like Challenge, bound for California from New York on her maiden voyage.  Inevitably she was drawn into the great “challenge” surrounding the ship Challenge.  She left New York in early June 1851 under command of Josiah Cressy. Three days later she lost her main and mizzen topgallant masts, but reached the line (equator) in 21 days.  She arrived in San Francisco in 89 days 21 hours, beating the previous record of 97 days, set by Sea Witch the year before – and 18 days under the Challenge’s ill-fated maiden voyage performance.
     
    After the last post, there was a question about the dark glue that I use to highlight structural joint lines.  The 8 oz. bottle I mixed up for Naiad was just about empty, so when replacing it I took some pictures to help answer the question.
     
    The first picture shows the starting point, plus two bottles of ready made dark Titebond glue.  The new bottle to the right is the currently available dark Titebond II.  I find it a bit light for pear.  The old – quite old actually – bottle in the center is the old Titebond dark glue – just about the right shade but no longer available.  T the left is an 8 oz. bottle of the standard yellow.  (The first thing I do with a new bottle of Titebond is pull off and toss the sliding top, cut off the closing nib and insert a length of plastic rod that is easy to remove and replace and does not clog up.)
     

     
    At the front right is a jar of raw umber artist grade pigment that will be used to darken the glue.  This bottle is several lifetimes’ supply.
     
     
    In the next picture, about a teaspoon of dry pigment was added to about a tablespoon of water and is being thoroughly mixed with the pestle-like Teflon rod until there is no sign of powder or lumps.
     

     
    The entire 8 oz. of glue is then added a bit at a time and mixed in.  The next picture showsthe final appearance.
     

     
    In the next picture the empty bottle has been thoroughly washed out with hot water and is being refilled with the darkened glue.
     

     
    I expect this will be enough to finish the model.
     
    The next picture shows the last of the full forward square frames.  The rail stanchios are about to be installed.
     

     
    The frame is now ready for beveling.  In the next picture the forward face of the pair is being trimmed back to the forward profile line on the disk sander.
     
     

     
    The aft outer profile was previously trimmed back.  The disk is kept away from that line in this step.  This leaves a hump or ridge between the two profiles.  The next picture shows this being removed by hand with a flat Rasp.
     

     
    The last picture shows the resulting bevel.
     

     
    The insides are only roughly beveled – mostly using a spindle sander.  They could be hand finished as well, but I intend to do that after the hull is assembled.
     
    The final bevel will be refined when the hull is finished sanded.  Beveling these pairs before assembly saves tedious sanding work later, makes frame erection easier and yields a more accurate hull profile.
     
    There is still some work to do on these frames before erection.
     
    Ed
     
     
     
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    Elia reacted to Timothy Wood in Atlantic 1903 by Timothy Wood - FINISHED - Scale 1/8 = 1' - Half-Hull   
    Just finished about an hours worth of work on the hull with the chisel and wood rasp.  
     
    Cheers,
    Tim
     

     

     

     

     

     
     
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    Elia reacted to michael mott in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    John I'm retired
     
    This evening after supper I finished off the rough fitting of the grating in the bottom of the cockpit. it still needs the edge wood and I'm not sure yet whether to use a contrasting wood or to go with some more of the Yellow Cedar that the grating is made of.
     
    I cut a slab of 3/4 x 3 1/2" yellow cedar from a 4x4 of it that i have had for a while now.
     

     
    Then stripped it up into some scale 1 1/4 inch thick boards and made a couple of passes to create the square stock and the wider stock was milled with a "19 modified twist drill into an end mill The drill is .166" diameter this gave a nice snug fit to the square stock when it was assembled.
     

     
    checking the size to mark out for sanding.
     

     
    next the assembly was rough sanded to fit into the cockpit on the disk sander.
     

     
    Michael
     
     
     
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    Elia reacted to von stetina in Lightning by von stetina - 1/96 - extreme clipper   
    Here are some pics of the yards being built. I made the cradle to help hold them still as I worked on them. Also, here are some details of the tops and crosstrees.
     
    My methods are the standard ones. The masts were shaped from square blanks of lemonwood taken from bow staves. Yards too. It was a lot of shaping. Timely, but really not too difficult. It gave me a lot of control.
     
    The deadeyes and bullseyes were made using standard jig techniques.
     
    There is a lot of metal work involved. There will be a lot of chain rigging too. I've measured a need for about 9 feet. I've made some chain, but decided to use some 40 link per inch stuff I've found. Making this much was just too much for me. So far this is the only thing I've bought ready made except for thread.
     
    I'm making the 11 1/2 inch and 8 inch standing rigging size line right now on my rope walk. This is for the lower shrouds and stays. I'll need a lot of the 11 1/2 as the Lightning had this huge stuff all they up to her topgallant back and forstays! It may look a bit heavy, but McKay really layed on the strong stuff for some of his ships. Especially the ones for the Australian emigrant ships like Lightning.
     
    By the way, I have a list all of the laws layed down by the captain for the passengers. PHEW !!! I'm working on a book too.
     
    I'm still trying to load that photo of her real figurehead that's rotting in a garage down under....
     
    Bruce
     
     






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    Elia reacted to von stetina in Lightning by von stetina - 1/96 - extreme clipper   
    Thanks for the great replies everyone. Micheal, do you want to part with any of that wood? It would be great as part of a base.
     
    Seeing the increase in clipper model interest on this site I thought it would be good to include several pics of where the masting and rigging is going.
     
    I'm tying to post a pic of her real figurehead too. It's rotting away in some old guys garage down under.









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    Elia reacted to EdT in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper   
    Young America - extreme clipper 1853
    Part 17 – Framing Continued
     
     
    American Clipper Note:  Webb’s 1851 clipper, Challenge, was one of the most extreme of designs, with a dead rise of 20 degrees at midship, plus the usual narrow entry and run.  Her owners wanted no expense spared to make her the fastest and finest of merchant ships.  The legendary Robert Waterman was to be her captain and came on early to supervise construction.  Typical of most sea captains given the opportunity, he fitted her with too large a rig of spars and sails that, if anything, detracted from her performance until later replaced.  Expectations ran high for her first run to California, with $10,000 offered to Waterman to do it under 90 days.  It was a disappointing passage.  Waterman, a hard case in a profession of hard cases, had crew problems almost immediately.  Off Rio, the mate was stabbed and mutinous members of the crew flogged.  Later three men were blown off the mizzen topsail yard and a further four died of dysentery.  Upon reaching San Francisco in 108 days, the crew and press provoked sensational riots against Waterman.  He was later cleared of wrongdoing but Challenge went to a new commander.  Her troubles continued.
     
     
    Framing is moving ahead at a faster clip than I anticipated.  I have moved up the learning curve and learned the little secrets that make the new pin-indexed assembly process work.  You will recall that the bolt/pin holes are indexed to identical positions on both frames in the CAD lofting process.  After cutting and trimming the parts, only about 30 minutes are required to complete the assembly of a frame pair.  This does not include beveling, milling the sidings or bolting – and I am not pushing the pace.
     
    The next few pictures illustrate some frame assembly steps.  The first shows how the pins are used to place the frame timbers – pattern side down - on the assembly pattern.  Pin holes were drilled using the pattern marks on the underside of these pieces.
     

     
    Accurate timber end trimming and vertical drill centering are key.  Although the outer frame profiles are sanded back to the pattern line, only the pins are used for alignment. 
     
    The next picture shows a lower futtock being glued into place – again relying entirely on the pinhole locations.
     
     

     
    After slipping the pins through the timber they are pushed into the holes in the lower pieces before gluing.  Dark glue is then applied as shown and the upper part pushed down and “nailed” into place with the pins and wood block buffers.
     
    The next picture shows the amount of offset in the fore and aft timbers of the beveled pairs.  This offset increases going forward.
     

     
     I am not cleaning off excess glue because I do not want to damage the patterns with water.  There are patterns on both sides of the frame pair and they are needed for beveling.  The inboard side will be beveled back to the red line on top of the pair.  The glue will come off when beveling.
     
    I described the beveling, siding and bolting process earlier.  The next few pictures show progress in erecting the frames.
     

     
    In this picture the first 14 pairs have been installed.  This picture shows a characteristic feature of clipper hull shape.  The deadrise of the timbers is increasing going forward, narrowing the lower part of the hull.  The top timbers, however remain at almost full breadth to provide adequate floor space on the forecastle for crew activity.
     
     

     
    Eventually the forward shape will flare out at the top over the very sharp entry below.  This is a very different hull shape from Naiad.
     
    All these pictures show temporary pine spacing chocks being glued between the frames above the lower futtocks.  This provides strength and helps maintain alignment.  Later when all frames are in place, these will be replaced with temporary ribbands – probably at the height of the planksheer.  These will bring the toptimbers and rail stanchions into a final fair line and hold them in place until permanent rails are installed.
     
     

     
    The last picture shows the 15th frame (O) being positioned for drilling of the pin/bolt hole into the keel.
     

     
    Time to start cutting out more frame timbers.
     
     
    Ed
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    Elia reacted to von stetina in Lightning by von stetina - 1/96 - extreme clipper   
    I'm picking this log back up starting with the rigging stage of this model. The masts and yards are complete, and the hull's deadeyes and etc. are on.
     
    My goal with this model is to accurately depict the appearance of a prime example of a clipper ship. My concern is to depict all components scaled correctly and to do all at the best of my ability hoping to show the highest development of the wooden merchant ship.
     
    I like speed. I like the example these ships made in the form follows function regard. These ships came about at a period in history when speed was essential. Generally they were driven without mercy as a true racing machine should be. As an old worn out motorcycle racer and builder these clippers really grab me by the guts
     
    You see the model after she has had a first attempt at the standing rigging stripped from her. As with most of the build I've had to do everything at least twice.
     
    I'll post as time and health permits, hope you enjoy the rigging process.
     
    Bruce

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    Elia reacted to rlb in US Brig Oneida 1809 by rlb - The Lumberyard - 1:48 scale - POF - Lake Ontario Warship   
    And speaking of slow progress--
     
    I've made 13 4mm deadeyes.   Twelve will get attached to the channels on the hull, and one extra.  My dowel won't yield the 12 more that I need, so I'm just going to wait until the rigging is under way to do those, along with the 3.5mm deadeyes that I will need for the top mast shrouds.   By the way, I found one of the brass rings I had lost (not that it's of any real use to me now)!
     

     
     
    It's on to the pinrails, and miscellaneous deck work. 
     
     
    Ron
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    Elia reacted to michael mott in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    John, thanks.
    Popeye, glad you are finding it interesting.
    Joe, thanks it seems that sharing how we do things is what makes this site so enjoyable, i have learned so much from all the great work and Ideas that make up the bulk of the posts here on this forum.
    Bob, yes answering those questions seems to be a never ending task.
     
    Today I did some major reorganizing of the shop, and finally got the pilot cutter off the floor, and opened up some room to work on both models;>)
     

     

     

     

     
    Then this evening I redid the block set up at the end of the bowsprit I used a new twisted shackle and a single block with a becket for the arrangement. I glued the rail posts and knees down to the deck at the base of the mast. It is so much easier working on the deck hardware and woodwork at desk height.
     
    Michael
     
     
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    Elia reacted to EdT in Young America 1853 by EdT - FINISHED - extreme clipper   
    Young America - extreme clipper 1853
    Part 16 – Framing Continued
     
                                                                                                                      
    American Clipper Note: In June 1856, the clipper Rapid, Captain Winsor, left New York for San Francisco, followed four days later by Intrepid and Neptune’s Car.  Some weeks later Rapid was battling hurricane force winter storms off Cape Horn.  Making no progress for weeks, with most of the sails gone, ten of the crew dead, ten more disabled below deck and only four frozen souls to work the ship, Winsor turned back for Rio.  He soon came in sight of one of the other ships, hailed her and got no response.  It was probably Neptune’s Car.  Facing the same conditions, her Captain Patten was confined below, having been struck deaf and blind.  With the mate in irons for insubordination, Patten’s 19-year old wife, a capable navigator, took charge of the ship and brought Rapid into San Francisco, 134 days out, 11 days before Intrepid.  Where’s Hollywood?
     
    Back to Young America.  Progress continues on the frame fabrication and installation.  The first picture shows the first 7 frames, 0 to F, installed.
     
     

     
    The next picture shows parts for the next few frame pairs cut out, trimmed and waiting for assembly.
     

     
    After cutting out on the scroll saw, each part is trimmed using the disk sander.  First the ends are sanded back square to the pattern cut line.  The outer profile is then sanded square up to the outer line as shown below.  In the case of the forward frames this is the aft – red – line. 
     

     
    From printing a frame pattern to all pieces cut out and trimmed takes about 30 minutes.  Average time to loft the two patterns is also about 30 minutes.  So up to the point in the second photo, about one hour is invested in each frame pair.  I have not timed the remaining steps yet.
     
    The next picture shows the amount of bevel starting to appear in the frames forward of midship.
     

     
    After assembly each pair is beveled to the forward outer profile using the disk sander – but staying away from the previously trimmed  profile on the aft face.  The resulting unsanded hump is then removed by hand as shown below.
     

     
    A flat rasp is being used for this followed by a 120 grit sanding block if needed.  The bevel is trimmed back to – but not into - the line on the pattern.  Final sanding of the hull will remove the last bit, any glue line residue and will smooth the frames.   At this stage - before assembly - most of the external beveling on each pair is complete.  The inside has been left somewhat fuller, so more internal sanding will be needed.  After this step the patterns are removed from both sides, the sidings of timbers machined back and the bolts added.  The pair is the erected.
     
    The next picture shows temporary pine chocks being installed between erected frames.  These chocks will align the frames and strengthen the assembly, which is rather weak with only the small glued area and pin on the keel.
     

     
    The next picture shows the assembly during the addition of these chocks.
     

     
    As each chock is added, the joint line is plumbed to the line on the base drawing and the breadth is matched to the maximum breadth line.
     
    Progress at this point:  Pairs 0 to F set, 0 to J fabricated, 2 to U lofted.  Keeping these progress measures helps keep me focused on what is a lot of repetitive work.
     
     
    Ed
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