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  1. Chuck , by bending this plank ,I assume that it is edge bending to produce a final shape equivalent to that which would result from the process of spiling and cutting the plank from wider stock. Do you employ wetting,boiling or steaming,or do you find that necessary? I have found that by holding a strip just in the palms of my hands and applying gentle pressure over time I can get an edge bend that will hold shape,but still have a tendency to lift off at the edge at the apex. How do you avoid that,and get the plank to lay flat as well as curve against the previous plank.
  2. My advice to someone just starting out in wooden ship model building is to start with a solid hull intended as an introductory level model.A solid hull has the advantage of showing just what the various line defining the shape of the under water body actually represent. After all ,a solid half hull was what Webb and McKay used as a basis for developing their creations,so you ll be in good company. As an example,look at Model Shipways Phantom or Sultana.Study some of the completed examples in that forum here. Just because it is a beginning level kit does nt mean it cant be turned into an exceptional example of the ship modelers art. Blue Jacket also has a number of fine introductory level projects. Avoid the European kits until you dont need instructions so much. Some of theirs would be clearer if they wrote them in pig~latin.
  3. Any technique to help maintain patience, and thereby a certain level of decorum in the workroom. It seems that blasts of Coal Mine Creole upset the Memsahib to no end.
  4. Iwas in earlier times heavily into homebuilt experimental airplanes. Ill just paraphrase what a friend once said about those who build flying machines in their basements.~~Those who spend years building intricate shipmodels are poorly positioned to criticize idiosyncratic behavior on the part of other people~~~.
  5. I use a pair of tweezers one clamps when relaxed and the other has tiny interlocking fingers on the end for reaching thru and grabbing the loose end. You re right about the memory of string. Its amazing how a short length of sewing thread can act more like stiff wire. I think when I get to the rigging stage on the Morgan I will do what Longridge did and build an adjustable frame to rest my forearms on as I work up the masts. That should really help with repetitive work like rat lines.
  6. John, In tying knots and lashings with very fine lines Ihave some long keen tweezers that I have learned to use as substitute fingers.My fingers on my prime hand were injured and are clumsier than normal, requiring me to adapt.Learning to tye fine knots at a distance using these tweezers took some practice,but now it works better than my fingers ever would. Ihave to get the hang of again each time a ship rigging episode comes along,but it gets easier each time. Sort of like eating with chopsticks,eventually you get to where you can pick a grain of rice up with them.
  7. Well,its probably too much to hope that it would work again. Ihave ever found that Memsahibs have prodigous long memories.Which brings me to the point. Have you any idea what the price of this kit is anticipated to be ? Just in case I have to conjure up a new ploy of my own.
  8. Wikipedia states a length of about 140 ft. and about 400 tons. Iassume the 140 ft. at that disp. would be on the gundeck which should give us a 27 in. hull and maybe 35 in. or so overall at 1~64. Not bad to work with. Amateur,you can always resort to reminding the Memsahib that the many hours spent on this are not hours spent hanging out with those ne er~do~wells at the local watering hole. Works most of the time.
  9. It has long been my,perhaps peculiar, personal opinion that the singlemost beautiful and majestic thing ever created by the hand of man was the clipper ship. The nearest Ihave come to the real thing was going aboard the stell hulled barque ~ Star of India ~ back in the 70 s.That gave me an appreciation for the incredible fund of knowledge and experience required to build one of these,especially entirely of wood. Then there comes the vaat accumulation of skill required to issue,and carry out, the instructions necessary to take it from N.Y. to Frisco. Our problem is that none of has ever seen one fresh off the ways. It would be interesting to knw just how finely dressed and finished the hull planking was done. The incredibly short time that elapsed between laying the keel and launch leads me to think that exterior smoothness was largely the uniformity of the planking used.
  10. Scale effect can be a really troublesome thing to deal with. I spent a lot of time with aircraft,large and small. Mostly you had to get to a scale ratio of about 1~3 before the behavior approached that of the full size. Even then we had the problems associated with not having a scale atmoshere. Agentle ten knot breeze became a stiff 30 knots at 1~3 scale. We are not trying to sail at 1~48 to 1~96,but we are confronted with a complete lack of scale materials to work with. This has to be the case with even the finely ground paints such as the late lamented Floquil. Trying to get any surface texture of any paint mixture to scale down accurately is probably not possible.
  11. This is one of the most interesting projects I have ever seen. I have become like some kid back in the fifties awaiting the next episode of one of those adventure series on the TV sponsored by Ovaltine or some such.
  12. That s the one I ve got,so Ithink you ll have what you need now. The Morgan is a fun project,and you are doing a fine job on yours. I have gotten a lot of understanding from John s gallery on fitting the davits and such to the outer bulwarks~~~ details not always clear on the plans. One thing I take away from reading the book is trying to imagine living aboard in such a confined space for aslong as five years . That would be tough to endure.
  13. Mine is a paperback copy. I went to Books~a~ Million Ithink it was and they ordered it for me. Mine was a new copy,so I think it is still in print.Let me look at the Mystick site and see if they have it. If not Iwill make a copy from mine and mail it to you if you would like. Menwhile have a very good Christmas~~~~Gary
  14. Historical corectness aside , it would be a shame to have to cover up such wonderfully done planking. I ve been looking at shipmodels for nearly 45 years and I ve never seen the equal to your work.
  15. In the final analysis,the best way to deal with all of it is to just make concessions to the brevity of life.Try as you might you will never root out and eliminate all the little errors and inconsistencies,not to mention uncertanties inherent in such an activity as this. For one thing Mr. Murphy will never allow it. For another ,at least if you are like me,building such a complex critter as this ship without introducing my own set of error just aint gonna happen.Not even from a perfect set op plans and laser cutting.Iam just happy to find myself in that tiny slice of the great mass of humanity who can open the box look at the plans and relish the prospect with anticipation instead of being completely overwhelmed by all the difficulties, which is the usual reaction.In my case,it was a gift from a very worried father to a very sick little guy more than sixty years ago. Along story for another time.
  16. George,I got my kit in Ithink 2010 or early 2011,but from an online source,not Model Expo.I dont know how M. Expo handles their printing and laser cutting , but I bet its not inhouse. The plans appear to have been very well drawn,but are subject to two avenues for error.It would be hugely difficult to go through something as complex as the Conny plan and root out all the inconsistencies and reconcile all the little errors from one sheet to the next.Next,the copying process tends to introduce its own distortions. This plan does not appear to be computer generated,at least not to me. The same applies to laser cutting.There are lots of laser cutters serving the RCaircract hobby,with varying reputations for quality and accuracy.Isuspect that these processes have been outsouced to dirrerent suppliers over the years,possibly,having variable levels of quality control.Its just the nature of trying to get a complex product out the door at a price enough of us can abide to sell enough of them to make all worthwhile
  17. Russ is right. Those early shiprights had to operate in rigid accordance with the dictates of the TLAR school of engineering.~~~That Looks About Right. I reckon my measurements fell within an inch from spot on at the scale of 1~76. I bet that if those early shiprights had benn able to determine that their frames had come within an inch of symmetry they d ave done backflips.
  18. Having a MS Conny in the closet that I figure on getting underway after the Morgan is done, I have been attentive to this discussion quite closely. I decided to dig it out and see if mine exhibited similar problems.Itook the laser cut bulkhead sheets and made a preliminary examination of each with the corresponding pattern drawing.Iestablished a centerline from the kell slot at the level of the gundeck and with my divider checked for symmetry,and then repeated that on the plans pattern,and verified that both were in agreement dimensionally. ,as well as symmetrical.All mine were within a pencil line s width of agreement with each other in both respects at the gundeck level.I figure from there up would be the most aggravating to fix.Ididnt put each bulk head on the plan to verify total agreement all around.Ifigure when the time comes,any problems in the lower body plan will be simpler to either shave off or flesh out as needed.Maybe I lucked out and got one out of a really good run.
  19. Glad you found a copy,and hope it helps with what you have in mind to do. There should be three fold out drawings in the back of the book. The last is a cutaway showing the arrangement of what you want to show. There is also a drawing of a rigging profile that shows a forward shelter deck,and four square stern windows.That is the configuration Ihave settled on. It represents the 1892~~1908 period,according to a note on the drawing.Ihave also been dabbling with the whaleboats.I ll post my experience with that when I learn a little more.
  20. P.S.,looking at John s pictures of the skylight,if I can come up with a skylight clear enough to actually see through,I might try to indicate th beam structure in white.That skylight may call for a bottle or two of Bombay to recover from it.
  21. Bruce,if you dont have Leavitt s book it is a worthwhile buy.On page 83 is a picture of the officer s table just aft of the mizzen.In the back there is an elevation showing the relative positions of the skylight,table and the deck beams above.Given that this would be scarecely visible through the skylight ,if at all,and only observable from the top of the mizzen,with the gaff,boom and all the rigging intervening it hardly seems worth doing.On the other hand,there are some things done just for our own enjoyment,even though noone else will likely ever see it.As for me,I am just hoping to do a half way credible job on the skylight itself.It is the only part of this project I dont look forward to. One thing about it~~if you can do the Morgan,you can do anything, because it s far from easy.~~~~Gary
  22. For everyone following this project,especially those of us contemplating embarking upon it somewhere down the road, I offer a bit of inspiration. There is a wonderful painting by Montague Dawson entitled ~ The Fleet Messenger ~ which depicts one such as this under a full press of sail in advance of a squadron of ships of the line.Just type in the names and several images,and sources,will come up.
  23. Another aspect of building these ships that is interesting to me is the skill required to drill a hole several feet through two or more pieces of timbe and have come out at the intended spot.Those guys must have had arms and shoulders like olympic weightlifters after doing that from can to cant for several years.
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