The Old Man Posted January 4, 2016 #1 Posted January 4, 2016 I want to build a Norwegian Steamship 1880-1900. Where can I find a Kit for such a craft? All I can find are Side Wheeler and a few Steam/Sail Ships. Thank you..... Quote
Mirabell61 Posted January 4, 2016 #2 Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Hi "The Old Man", welcome to the forum, recommend that after a short introduction of yourself and your aim, you kindly provide your fellow members what exactly you are seeking for...., so maybe we can give better assistance... Side wheelers and steam /sailships are not less "Steamships". I can imagine that you perhaps may want to look at early Hurtig Route coastal steamers... here a little link with names of Norwegian steam ships, perhaps in a second run it can be checked out if there perhaps are kits available https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Steamships_of_Norway Sort out those around turn of the century Nils Edited January 4, 2016 by Mirabell61 mtaylor and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
The Old Man Posted January 4, 2016 Author #3 Posted January 4, 2016 I am mostly interested in West Coast Gold Rush Steam Ships 1880-1900. Like this one. Any Kits for such a ship available? or anything in similar design? avsjerome2003, mtaylor and robin b 3 Quote
The Old Man Posted January 5, 2016 Author #4 Posted January 5, 2016 I have checked every wood model retailer linked to this site, and I can find no suitable kit for the ship above. mtaylor 1 Quote
hexnut Posted January 5, 2016 #5 Posted January 5, 2016 This is not all that similar, but maybe close enough for a "practice build" until you can scratchbuild the ship you want? http://atlastmodels.se/bohuslan/ The Canadian-Pacific "Islander" shown was actually built in Scotland in 1888... avsjerome2003 and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
The Old Man Posted January 5, 2016 Author #6 Posted January 5, 2016 Thanks! The s/s Bohuslän looks pretty close. I never noticed it before. Maybe I can tweak it. Extend the hull and add a stack. Yes, the SS Islander was built in Scotland 1880. It is now lying in 360 feet of water off Admiralty Island with a reported 130 million dollars of gold on board. Part of the SS. Islander was salvaged and dropped onto the beach 1929. Some gold was recovered. I have explored those remains which are visible at low tide. I want to build it. Has anyone built the s/s Bohuslän before? I did a site search, shows nothing here. mtaylor and hexnut 2 Quote
hexnut Posted January 6, 2016 #7 Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Nils did a magnificent model of the Bohuslan (I think based on the Billings kit): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6288-steamship-ss-bohusl%C3%A4n-by-nils-langemann-billings-1914-scale-150-swedish-live-museum-steamer-already-completed/?hl=bohusl%C3%A4n The Curtis-Wiley Diving machine used in the 1929-1934 salvage operations of the Islander was an amazing piece of steampunk gear--might make an interesting diorama... http://www.nickmessinger.co.uk/islander.html Edited January 6, 2016 by hexnut mtaylor and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
The Old Man Posted January 6, 2016 Author #8 Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks! That's what I was looking for. Look's like I may be able to tweak the kit. There will be another attempt to recover the SS Islander gold: http://www.adn.com/article/crew-will-attempt-recover-millions-southeast-alaska-shipwreck I know a guy who dove it about ten years ago illegally. He collected some cups and dinner plates. He's gone now. hexnut, mtaylor and avsjerome2003 3 Quote
puckotred Posted January 6, 2016 #9 Posted January 6, 2016 I'm building the Bohuslän in-between other projects. mtaylor 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre
The Old Man Posted January 6, 2016 Author #10 Posted January 6, 2016 I'm building the Bohuslän in-between other projects. Is the kit still available ? Where can I get one? mtaylor 1 Quote
puckotred Posted January 6, 2016 #11 Posted January 6, 2016 Well, that depends on what part of the world you live in... US: Nordic Class Boats UK: Bohuslän steamer ship model | eBay EU: Bohuslän Dampfschiff 1:45 Bausatz - Krick Modelltechnik and many more.... Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre
The Old Man Posted January 6, 2016 Author #12 Posted January 6, 2016 Buying from Alaska. I checked http://www.agesofsail.com/ecommerce/nordic-class-boats/nc35-1006-nordic-class-boats-bohuslan.html. Looks good....are there any manuals or directions I can download to learn more about the model? I didn't see much info on the site. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote
puckotred Posted January 6, 2016 #13 Posted January 6, 2016 Theres a couple of pics from the unboxing of the kit on my log, examples of the manual also. But beware, the quality of the kit leaves a lot to be desired. But on the other hand it's cheap, and as usual you get what you pay for... mtaylor, Canute and avsjerome2003 3 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre
The Old Man Posted January 7, 2016 Author #14 Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Theres a couple of pics from the unboxing of the kit on my log, examples of the manual also. But beware, the quality of the kit leaves a lot to be desired. But on the other hand it's cheap, and as usual you get what you pay for... I wonder if the kits are the same? US price is $395 for the NC35-1006 Nordic Class Boats s/s Bohuslän at "Ages of Sail". Another $50 shipping. For over $400 I would expect some kind of quality. Plus I'm concerned with the poor material used to build some interior rooms. The S/S Bohuslan looks more like the SS Princess Sophia. Which I am also wanting to build. Not much gold..........but a huge loss of life. A grizzly tale when SS Princess Sophia resurfaced with all the bodies on board. http://www.sitnews.us/Kiffer/PrincessSophia/120505_princess_sophia.html In my area, there are two kinds of boaters. Those who have hit rocks, and those who will hit rocks. Edited January 7, 2016 by The Old Man Canute and avsjerome2003 2 Quote
puckotred Posted January 7, 2016 #15 Posted January 7, 2016 In Sweden I payed about $ 290 with shipping and I got the LED kit for free. Guess it costs a lot to ship the crap overseas... My opinion is that you're better off without it. Canute 1 Quote Mr. Pucko Building: Royal Caroline - Panart Nuestra Senora del Pilar - Occre Bounty - Occre Titanic - Amati Endeavour - AL Santissima Trinidad cross section - Occre
The Old Man Posted January 7, 2016 Author #16 Posted January 7, 2016 In Sweden I payed about $ 290 with shipping and I got the LED kit for free. Guess it costs a lot to ship the crap overseas... My opinion is that you're better off without it. Thanks! I am agreement with you on that. Are there any plans available to scratch build the S/S Bohuslan? or a ship of similar design? Quote
Mirabell61 Posted January 7, 2016 #17 Posted January 7, 2016 Hi T.O.M., as you have been looking for assistance let me kindly do two suggestions for your search...... one is the beautiful Alaskan "Portland" steamer late 1880, kit of "Bluejacket Models". I know from your early posts that you are not so fond of side wheelers, but this one in silhuoette, tonnage and length and decks comes quite close to the "Islander" and may have been transporting some of those goldrush fortune seekers. It also has two stacks, but they are next to one another..... the other is a real Oldtimer eyecandy model kit, its the "Panderma Ferry" of Turkmodel, appr. 1881 or so... Nils mtaylor, Canute, puckotred and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
The Old Man Posted January 8, 2016 Author #18 Posted January 8, 2016 I can't find a suitable kit anywhere. I have sent off a letter to a company called Ocean Mar. The courts have given Ocean Mar legal permission to dive and explore the wreak. Also, legal ownership of much of the booty. They may have more information, or even some plans. Mirabell61 and mtaylor 2 Quote
chborgm Posted June 14, 2016 #19 Posted June 14, 2016 Nils I built the Portland and the kits is good quality. Who makes the "Panderma Ferry" kit? Clarence mtaylor 1 Quote Flying Fish -- MSW Essex --- MSW Constitution -- MSW Confederacy -- MSW Philadelphia -- MSW Chaperon -- MSW San Felipe -- Panart Portland -- Bluejacket
Mirabell61 Posted June 14, 2016 #20 Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Hi Clarence, you may want to google up Turk Models, they sell (or via local distributers) the beautiful "Panderma Ferry" kit Cheers, Nils Edited June 14, 2016 by Mirabell61 mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
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