mtaylor Posted February 23, 2016 #31 Posted February 23, 2016 Jan, The small table saw I have has dado washers which make the blade wobble a pre-determined distance depending the washer I use. So usually, it's just one pass. So if you set the board.as shown, you should be able to get what you want. Use the miter to get it through the cut and keep things straight. Crude drawing.... Moony 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Moony Posted March 7, 2016 Author #32 Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Hello followers &;friends! At the moment I got unlucky with my results and didn't shiw anything to pubicity. I put two sets of former plans to the dustbin due to several failers in the decks bow. It was not parallel to each other, not rectangular to the CL, and so on... so I got more and more frustrated...Ti keep it short&simple:The bending of the deck I tryed to draw in the formers with a curved ruler they don't fit good. Edit: I'll place two drillings for crosshairs to aim for the CenterLine precisely.So I'm going to start to build a "wooden decks beam ruler" fitzing my drawinboard on myself. Here today's first rough hand scetch: Edited March 7, 2016 by Moony mtaylor, Tadeusz43 and ianmajor 3 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted March 7, 2016 Author #33 Posted March 7, 2016 Jan, The small table saw I have has dado washers which make the blade wobble a pre-determined distance depending the washer I use. So usually, it's just one pass. So if you set the board.as shown, you should be able to get what you want. Use the miter to get it through the cut and keep things straight. Crude drawing.... Untitled.png Hy Mark, thanks a lot this is very helpfull - I was so preoccupied by the decks rounding that I didn't answer - sorry for this! When I assamble the new sawing blade hopefully everything will be easier. mtaylor 1 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted March 7, 2016 Author #34 Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) At the moment I read "Old time Steam Coasting" by Spargo & Thomason with a good benefit to several details of the boiler or engine room and to the accomodation in coasters. So I figured out the in the pre 1900 coasters the ash was brought out of the boilerroom by adding it into a bucket . And lifting it to the deck through the vent by a winch. So there must be a hook or eyelet or dee to suspent a set of pulleys in the top of the vent's inlet... So what do you think about my here added my 1st scetch? Edited March 7, 2016 by Moony Tadeusz43, Mirabell61 and mtaylor 3 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Mirabell61 Posted March 7, 2016 #35 Posted March 7, 2016 Hi Jan, never seen that way of ash-removal, but why not, it looks very interesting and functional Nils mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
ianmajor Posted March 7, 2016 #36 Posted March 7, 2016 Moony, I think that would be a very difficult and time consuming way of removing the ash. If the bucket was dropped I think there would be a risk that it would fall sideways and jam in the vent. There would be a lot of ash to shift so my bet would be that it would be done through a hatch. Keep up the good and interesting work. mtaylor 1 Quote Ian M. Current build: HMS Unicorn (1748) - Corel Kit Advice from my Grandfather to me. The only people who don't make mistakes are those who stand back and watch. The trick is not to repeat the error.
Moony Posted March 8, 2016 Author #37 Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Thanks for your answers & motivation power giving within towards me, guys!But as I told you still in the 20th and 30th it was done like this in older coasters not having added with a special ash hatch to cuck it outboard through the hull's side. I'll figure out the exact page where I read it - it is allways the same, isn't it?You know it,You know you read it,You know the book you read it,...but on what page or in what story this special factum was told to you? You can't remember... Edited March 8, 2016 by Moony mtaylor and ianmajor 2 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted March 8, 2016 Author #38 Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Ian, your argument mad me thinking if the procedure would make sense... as I used to ask: a ) Why should we act in this way? (Is it done in the most secure, effective, fastest & cheapest way?)b ) Why should it be constructed in this way? (Does it fit in the place it is put in - i.e. Does the crane collidate with anything in its pivoting range?) bb ) Could it have been constructed at this time in this way? (Ancorsteamwinch on deck of the Victory!)c ) Does it make sense to work in this way at all? (i.e.: May there have been an ash hatch running comfortablely beside the boiler down through the doublebottom right into the sea not annoying any 1st Class passangers - as they may have used it in boilerroom No.1 on RMS Titanic? )On the side of the furnanche openings there were no hatches - the only openigs up through the deck are the vents... and nobody (i.e. engeneers!!!)) would like the ash to fall on the oily engine when brought arround the boiler to be lifted up through the skylight of the engine room.What do you think is my idea right? Edited March 8, 2016 by Moony ianmajor and mtaylor 2 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted March 15, 2016 Author #39 Posted March 15, 2016 No further progress to present at the moment - everything happens between my ears... mtaylor and ianmajor 2 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted June 7, 2016 Author #40 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Hello, after several month filled with job, illness, divertissments (i.e. addtivly kitchen furniture manufacturing ) and some of trials of redrawing I can now bring some further news during the next days... I was very happy to find a yard model of S/S Warkworth... also something to do with Newcastel on Tyne and she was a singel screw steamship ,too. Source: vallejogallery.com but it was her a later bearer of the same name... So let's look forward to the awaited progress: new Mr McSale in 1/48 trial of the deck's beam stencil redrawing of the formers Hope you all are well, Yours Edited June 7, 2016 by Moony mtaylor 1 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted June 9, 2016 Author #41 Posted June 9, 2016 Here a contemporary picture of a staemer - point of intrest for me is the canvasing of the flying brigde: mtaylor 1 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted June 10, 2016 Author #42 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Okay We have got a Breadth moulded from 27 feet (page 1 #1) when we multiplicate this with around a food of 304.8mm so we get 8,229.6mm so we start to devide this through our scale ratio of 48 so Sesamstreat's Count will teach us "So we'll get 171.45mm at the very end!" But! So I do't trust myself to sit an a toilretseat i the right way! Edited June 10, 2016 by Moony mtaylor 1 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted June 10, 2016 Author #43 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Here I foud what Ithought it was lost: ad it looks very well: and lets crosscheck: 304.8mm for a foot brought to scale by deviding with 48 gives 6,35 mm to us... multiplicated with 5 we got 31.75 mm ...but so the job I gave to the guy in the copyshop is now prooved to be devastantingly realised - and I can't change it for a right done one!!! Now I can go there and I'll have to redo this work on my own. Edited June 10, 2016 by Moony mtaylor 1 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
Moony Posted June 11, 2016 Author #44 Posted June 11, 2016 Back from the copyshop mtaylor 1 Quote Give Moony a.k.a. Jan ________________________________________________________ "S/S Warkworth"- 1875 (Scale 1/48) One of the 1st modern iron-built Steam Colliers by Swan & Co. Newcastle on Tyne ___________________________________________________ While you're being creative, nothing is wrong. There's no such thing as a mistake, and any drivel may lead to the breakthrough. John Cleese
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