Crowsfeet and euphroe block

[simon porter]

Could anyone who has built Victory models HMS Fly tell me how they rigged the crowsfeet and euphroe's with the ones supplied with the kit.

I've looked in Lees masting and rigging book,and seen that I would need an odd number of holes in the top and that I'd have to strop the thread to the centre of the block to start it off. Unfortunately with the kit, I have an even number of holes in the top and It isn't possible to strop the threat to the centre of the block as it is too thin.

HELP 

[twintrow]

Lee's is a good illustration...you will need an odd number of holes, and you do need to attach the line to the euphroe.

 

 I'd drill a small hole, stiffen the line with a drop of CA stick it in the hole, force a small splinter in the hole with the line to hold it in place then put a drop of CA in the hole.

 

Others may have better suggestions.

 

 

Tom

[popeye2sea]

Another way would be to use an even number of holes in the top and the euphroe and start the crows feet at the top.

 

 

Start with the laniard passing up through one of the center holes.  Knot it under the top.  Pass it through the first hole in the euphroe and then down through hole number 2.  Pass the line under the top and up through hole 3.  Repeat on alternate sides moving away from the center.  Just remember to pass the line over the rim of the top each time.  When you get to hole 10, or whatever number you have you can tie the end off on the previous pass under the top (i.e. between 6 and 7)

 

Hope that makes sense.

 

Regards,

[simon porter]

Thanks for your help. I think I'll go with your idea popeye. The euphroe block is so thin that its impossible to put a strop round it and start there.

Wish me luck. 

[simon porter]

Job done.

[GDM67]

I recall an article within the last year or so in the NRG mag on the subject by William Sproul.  Gary

[Captain Al]

Hope someone tunes back into this thread.  I have completed the crowsfeet and euphore.  I will be gluing down the platform today or tomorrow (I hope) and I am contemplating how the pigtail that comes off the euphore is tied to the stay.  I used a rolling hitch on the first mast/platform/euphore I did (mizzen mast on HMS Bounty) which enabled me to tie it on without tension and then slide it down the stay until tension was achieved and it won't slide back up the stay.  (I love this knot for that simple function (learned it on real boats).  I'm wondering if anyone has any better ideas or would validate the way I'm doing it.  I have a sneaking feeling that in reality a rolling hitch was not used.

[popeye2sea]

Tension was achieved with a small block and tackle between the euphroe and the stay.

 

Regards,

Edited August 2, 2016 by popeye2sea

[Captain Al]

Yup.  That would have been the really correct way of doing it.  I wanted to skip the authenticity on this particular part (I will already have too many blocks on the model that probably won't get used) so I went with the glued knot on the mizzen.  Maybe I'll put the blocks on the main and fore.  Thanks for the tip.

[JerseyCity Frankie]

I have never understood the need for this bit of gear on the ships that have it. At some point in history it gets dropped entirely and is not seen on ships which still have  nearly identical sail/mast/top arrangements. So I guess people collectively decided it was not needed? I understand it would keep the foot of the topsail out of the area under the top, and maybe it helped stiffen the forward are of the top itself? Why would it need so many legs?Wouldn't a single small block fixed at the same point on the stay with a single line leading through it be enough to do the same job the regular euphro is doing with all those legs? What am I not understanding here?

[popeye2sea]

The crowsfeet was indeed excessive. But this was also the time period where the bos'n went crazy with crowsfeet all over the rigging.  Look at the all the legs for the various backstays of the period and things like martinets vs. leech lines.

 

The rigging of ships evolved much over time as people learned what worked and what could be done better.

 

Regards,

[Tadeusz43]

Hi,

The crowsfeet on foremast of Gotheborg.

 

Tadeusz