Amati/Victory Models Lady Nelson - Bearding Line?

[daveward]

I just ordered the Lady Nelson kit from Amati/Victory Models.  This will be my first model, and I'm excited to get started on it.  However, I have a question about the plans for this kit.  Do they include any sort of diagram or pattern for the bearding line and the shape of the rabbet joint?  I seem to recall seeing a set of plans for another Amati kit, and there was no mention of this feature...  I know that I can just look over the plans when the kit arrives, but in the meantime, I'm curious!  So, if you've worked on this kit before, please let me know.  Thanks!

[mtaylor]

Have you looked at the build logs yet?  If not, here's three links for builds the might help as they seem to be pretty far along.

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1416-lady-nelson-by-holty-victory-models-scale-1-64/

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7244-lady-nelson-by-bibounde-victory-models-scale-164

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9496-lady-nelson-by-leo-zd-1119-small

[daveward]

Thanks, mtaylor!  I have looked at those build logs, but I didn't see where any of them mentioned the bearding line or rabbet joint (with the exception of the first one, where the author says that he skipped this step).  Without actually having the kit in my hands, I have no way of knowing if this aspect of the build is actually covered in the kit instructions.  I suppose it doesn't really matter, as I'll know once the kit finally arrives.  For now, though, I'm just really curious!  I might send a message to a couple of the members who have built this kit and ask if they remember.  

[Bart616]

If you go to the top of this website and click on the "The Nautical Research Guild Home Page"  Click on "Ship Modeling database of articles", click on "Framing and Planking".  The second article down, Simple Hull Planking for beginners has a great example on page 3.

 

I would have put in the link but by actually going to the page you will also see other helpful articles.  Good luck!

Edited March 25, 2016 by Bart616

[daveward]

Thanks, Bart!  I have looked over that particular article in preparation for my build.  It certainly has a lot of useful information!  However, I'm not really looking for general information on how to mark a bearding line or cut a rabbet joint.  Instead, I'm trying to find out if the Amati instructions that come with this particular kit include a diagram for the specific angles of the rabbet joint.  Based on what I've read so far, and given that each ship's hull has its own specific plank angles that give the hull its shape, I would assume that the rabbet angles would be slightly different for each ship.  If the Amati instructions do not cover this topic, then I suppose I would have to cut a "generic" rabbet or rely on trial and error to get the correct angles...  Does that make sense, or have I misunderstood something?    

[Bart616]

Dave, its possible that the instructions don't include a rabbet.  I believe there are models that don't include it in the directions but I am not sure with your particular model.  Maybe IM people who have completed or are working on it.  

 

I do know that some models I have seen here and I am not an expert but they create the rabbet using a strip of wood that is thinner than the bulkhead former that sits between the keel and bulkhead former.  The Syren is a good example of this.  You can download the directions from Model Expo for free, ch 1. show this.  Other models have you carve the rabbet.

 

Sorry I can't be more help, but without the actual directions in front of me its just a guess.  I believe some people have created rabbets even when the instructions don't mention it because it allows for a tighter fit of the planks. 

 

Hopefully someone who is more of an expert can give you better advice.

[daveward]

Thanks a lot for the additional information, Bart!  I suppose I'll just have to wait for the kit to arrive and simply take a look at the instructions.  It's no big deal!  When I get ready to start a project, I like to run through the process a number of times in my mind to help me mentally prepare for the various tasks ahead.  I was just trying to get a feel for what I'd be doing ahead of time (while also giving me something to daydream about while I anxiously await the arrival of the kit!).