RedDawg Posted May 30, 2016 #1 Posted May 30, 2016 This is my start of the Triton Cross Section as a side build with my Sovereign. I'm going todo this build to help me learn about scratch building. I'll use this as a learning curve for when I do a complete ship. I will start with trying to use pine that I get from work. If pine does not work I'll get me some Redoak from Lowes that I found. alde, Canute and mtaylor 3
Pete38 Posted May 30, 2016 #2 Posted May 30, 2016 Welcome to the build, off to a nice start, looking forward to more Canute and mtaylor 2 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
alde Posted May 30, 2016 #3 Posted May 30, 2016 Cool, another Triton builder. Good luck and have fun. It's gong to be a great project. Canute and mtaylor 2 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
RedDawg Posted June 1, 2016 Author #4 Posted June 1, 2016 I see that on the Triton build area that their is a place that shows drawings of the cross section. Is this all I need, or are there more PDFs files that are needed? Can anyone give me an answer on this? I want to plan my builds wood requirements. And to decide on what I might like to choose. mtaylor and Pete38 2
mtaylor Posted June 1, 2016 #5 Posted June 1, 2016 Here's the drawing area.. hopefully you'll have access: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/39-hms-triton-downloads-area/ All the drawings you need should be in there. There's a timber list for the cross-section here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/643-triton-cross-section-timber-list/ Pete38 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
RedDawg Posted June 1, 2016 Author #6 Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Thank you Mark. These are what I needed. Now to take time out at lunch and after work to start cutting pieces out. So far on my 10 inch table saw I have been able to cut planks at a quarter inch by maybe a sixteenth inch with good success. But does anyone have any thoughts on Redoak or poplar as these were the only two I found at Lowes. Edited June 1, 2016 by RedDawg mtaylor, Pete38 and Canute 3
Canute Posted June 2, 2016 #7 Posted June 2, 2016 Red oak has some coarse grain to it. Poplar is better, but has some grain coloring to it. If you can pick through the poplar to minimize the coloring, it's a nice wood. Works OK. Pete38 and mtaylor 2 Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
RedDawg Posted June 3, 2016 Author #8 Posted June 3, 2016 Well here is a small addition to my Triton. Today I began cutting pieces out of #1dense pine. Being a carpenter all my wood is free. Plus my boss gave me a contractors grade 10 inch table saw. Only problem is no garage yet. Next year my gal and myself are looking to buy a house. My one requirement is a garage for all of my toys. No cars allowed. Pete38, Canute and mtaylor 3
RedDawg Posted June 3, 2016 Author #9 Posted June 3, 2016 Here is my first attempt with my 5 dollar garage sale scroll saw. Canute, mtaylor, alde and 1 other 4
alde Posted June 3, 2016 #10 Posted June 3, 2016 Your scroll saw cuts look perfect. I cut my first pieces too close to the line. I need more meat for fairing. mtaylor and Pete38 2 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
RedDawg Posted June 3, 2016 Author #11 Posted June 3, 2016 Hi Alde, my luck at my first cut because the blade and me were not in agreement over what I wanted. Still I've only just begun. I figure on a good bit of pieces to the proverbial scrap pile. Now when I put my hand to a full scratch build I'm going to choose some real nice wood to play with. Good building. Mike Pete38, Canute and mtaylor 3
RedDawg Posted June 5, 2016 Author #12 Posted June 5, 2016 The other day I downloaded the plans for the Triton cross section. While going through them and marking the pieces for reference, I found two -O- patterns. All but the one that is 16 cm wide are 21 cm. What is the correct width of the scale drawings before I start cutting any wood?
mtaylor Posted June 6, 2016 #13 Posted June 6, 2016 Hmm.... both scales match? Didn't mix up cross-section and full-build frames? I'm not sure. Canute 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Pete38 Posted June 6, 2016 #14 Posted June 6, 2016 Went and found my copy of the 1:48 plans, Frame 0 is measuring 21 cm like in your first picture. Canute and mtaylor 2 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
RedDawg Posted June 6, 2016 Author #15 Posted June 6, 2016 Thanks Pete, I thought that those would be the right ones, but I wanted to be sure. This cross section is going to be a hefty size. mtaylor and Canute 2
Pete38 Posted June 6, 2016 #16 Posted June 6, 2016 Just make sure it get rid of that one and don't do like I did, build have a deck with the wrong scale plans because they both were laying on the table side by side mtaylor, Canute and alde 3 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
RedDawg Posted June 21, 2016 Author #17 Posted June 21, 2016 Today I have a little to show on the Triton.my five dollar garage sale scroll saw did not last long. But my pop had one that he gave to me. At first I did not like it at all. The hold down bracket was to big for this kind of work. So as nesessity is the mother of invention, imagination and jury rigging come in handy. I also went hunting a source for hard woods. I finally found a place where I can get several varieties of wood. From one inch to six inch thick. Good enough for my builds. The fun continues. Mike mtaylor, GuntherMT, Canute and 2 others 5
alde Posted June 21, 2016 #18 Posted June 21, 2016 Progress may be slow but it's progress. Pete38, aviaamator, Canute and 1 other 4 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
RedDawg Posted June 22, 2016 Author #19 Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) Well trial and error are what increases knowledge and skill. I thought that pine would be usable, but that was a failure. So the scrap pile grows. I tried poplar this time. Alittle soft but looks like it will do. Here is my first set of frames. Edited June 22, 2016 by RedDawg WBlakeny, mtaylor, mrjimmy and 4 others 7
alde Posted June 22, 2016 #20 Posted June 22, 2016 You've been framed. Looks great. Canute and mtaylor 2 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
RedDawg Posted June 22, 2016 Author #21 Posted June 22, 2016 I have a question. My son in law would like Queen Anne's Revenge. Is there akit available for this ship? Mike mtaylor and Canute 2
Pete38 Posted June 22, 2016 #22 Posted June 22, 2016 The start of your frames is looking good, popular will make a fine build, just pick the pieces for the best color to match. mtaylor, alde and Canute 3 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
mtaylor Posted June 22, 2016 #23 Posted June 22, 2016 RedDawg, Google is your friend... I found this one quickly.. http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/pirate/Queen_Anne's_Revenge_blackbeard.htmbut the price is rather high. There was a plastic kit by Revell that shows up on Ebay regularly. Dig through Google a bit, there might be more. Canute 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
RedDawg Posted July 10, 2016 Author #24 Posted July 10, 2016 Well it's been awhile since I posted, but the work goes on. Learning from this cross section makes me glad that I chose this instead of a full scratch build. I look forward to more tools to add to my collection. Still this is fun with a since of accomplishment. I milled a bunch of wood today for other areas of the build. Now I feel that a little quicker progress is ahead. Till later Michael GuntherMT, Mumin, zoly99sask and 3 others 6
RedDawg Posted July 10, 2016 Author #25 Posted July 10, 2016 By the way what is the best way to get my bend in the the deck beams? Michael mtaylor and Canute 2
alde Posted July 10, 2016 #26 Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Micheal, that is looking fantastic. I'm catching up with you with only 3 frames left to build. I will update my log with pictures very soon. I am looking forward to seeing your build progress. Edited July 10, 2016 by alde Canute, mtaylor and zoly99sask 3 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
mtaylor Posted July 10, 2016 #27 Posted July 10, 2016 Looking good, Micheal. A little fairing and she'll be all right and proper. Ah.. deck beams... two choices unless you have access to a laser cutter... either cut them with a scroll saw/band saw, or soak, heat/steam, and bend. That's about your only options. mrjimmy, Canute and zoly99sask 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Pete38 Posted July 10, 2016 #28 Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Looking good Micheal, I steamed my beams, worked well for me. Click here to go to my log to see pictures and descripton. About half way down the page or so. Hope it helps Edited July 10, 2016 by Pete38 Canute and mtaylor 2 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
RedDawg Posted July 17, 2016 Author #29 Posted July 17, 2016 Well I've gotten a little more done on my Triton. The RedOak that I got from Lowes is a bit grainy. But overall so far I like the look. I'm going to use more of the poplar for the floor framing. I've seen where some of what I've done may not be quite right, but it is still coming along. Next month I get to play with the Sovereign somemore. NMBrook has given me some ideas in that area. Just by taking time to look through the builds of others makes me a better builder. Not a master yet but on my way. Thanks y'all for the lessons learned and the pure enjoyment of your work. Michael Canute, GuntherMT, zoly99sask and 4 others 7
alde Posted July 17, 2016 #30 Posted July 17, 2016 Wow, you are just cruising along and doing a fine job of it at that. I'm making little bits of progress but I don't think I will catch up. I'm glad it's not a race. Canute and mtaylor 2 The heart is happiest when the head and the hands work together. Al Current Builds: HMS Halifax 1/48 POF Lumberyard Kit Model Shipways Glad Tidings Acoustic Guitar Build FINISHED
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