DocBlake Posted April 20, 2017 #121 Posted April 20, 2017 Tony: I'd like to PM you, but I get a message saying you can't receive messages. Can you post your email address or check my profile page for some questions I have? Thanks! mtaylor and Canute 2 Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
tkay11 Posted April 20, 2017 Author #122 Posted April 20, 2017 My message box was full. I have now deleted about half the messages, so if anyone wants to PM me in future that should work. Tony Canute and mtaylor 2 === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
Niklas Posted April 20, 2017 #123 Posted April 20, 2017 Very nice, Tony! Now looking forward to your Brixham... Niklas tkay11, mtaylor and Canute 3
tkay11 Posted April 20, 2017 Author #124 Posted April 20, 2017 That's very funny, Niklas, because your build of Le Rochefort made me go back to have a look at it again as a possibility for my next build. I've been scanning the different ship's plans I have before making CAD tracings as part of the process of deciding which to build first (the others being the Brixham trawler Valerian, the Frigate Naiad, and La Jacinthe). You've seen the interesting discussion about framing the Brixham trawler and I was pleased to work out how to do the framing for that. As I'll be visiting Brixham in June to see the three main trawlers re-built there, I'll have lots of photos to help and that may well help me to finalise the decision. But the step-by-step guide provided by Ed Tosti with the Naiad is very tempting, and Le Rochefort is tempting because the framing is simpler and very clearly presented (as well as being a merchant ship, which I prefer). La Jacinthe is still on my list simply because it's a beautiful ship and I think my wife would prefer it far more than the others! One of the irritating things about scanning from paper (especially if it's been folded) is the fact that the flatbed scanners have complex distortions which don't allow for simple re-sizing and overlapping if you want a really accurate result, so I have to end up making small sections and re-adjusting. In fact it's the same process as re-drafting on to paper as I have to make a grid and use the measurements of each part of the plans to which I can re-size. The errors are approximate 1mm per 100mm, but variable with both barrel and pincushion distortion, so it's much easier when the plans are provided as pdfs (as for the Naiad) when there's no distortion and only errors of drafting. Thanks for appreciating the Triton, though! I much enjoyed doing it. Tony Canute, mtaylor, egkb and 1 other 4 === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
Niklas Posted April 21, 2017 #125 Posted April 21, 2017 Tony, all four are interesting projects. I`m enjoying the Rochefort even if it´s a little more than I can handle, still I understand that Naiad is tempting. If I had the skill I'd might go for that one, but it's your choice. Don't know if this helps: I use my small scanner when I need copies for frames etc, but took the original plans to a professional copy place that printed out unfolded copies. Perhaps not super accurate but I can live with it. Your way of doing it is of course the best way to get it as perfect as possible. Niklas Canute, Mike Y, mtaylor and 1 other 4
tkay11 Posted April 21, 2017 Author #126 Posted April 21, 2017 Yes, you're probably right, Niklas, about the sheer and half-breadth plans. And you're definitely right about using the small scanner for frames. I'm just such a miser that I get irritated to have to pay £10 or £12 per sheet and still have to correct it. I should also mention that I'm also wasting my time on scanning the plans because whilst we're trying to sell the house I can't do any woodwork at all -- every single one of my tools has had to be stowed away and absolutely no sawdust or scraps allowed! So I've deliberately been playing around with the small scanner and software just to see how much accuracy I can achieve with corrections. As you say, it's what you can live with -- and the small levels of distortion when translated to real wood at 1:48 are probably no more than a file cut away from perfection. So like you, I know that when it comes to the crunch I'll be living with at least better distortions than I have at the moment! Tony mtaylor and Canute 2 === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
tkay11 Posted April 22, 2017 Author #127 Posted April 22, 2017 Niklas, I forgot to add a comment in relation to your saying "I`m enjoying the Rochefort even if it´s a little more than I can handle". To my mind that's exactly the reason for taking on a project. I took on my first kit, the Sherbourne, not only because I was intrigued by the idea of wooden model ship building, but also because it was something I thought I'd like to learn -- something that was beyond my skill level. The same was true when I then took on the Triton cross-section -- which was almost entirely an exercise to go beyond what I could handle, although I also much appreciated the beauties of its construction. So I'm definitely looking in my next model for something beyond what I can now handle as I really enjoy the process of learning, exploring and developing new skills. I could of course just settle into a comfort zone and hone existing skills to produce a beautiful model, as I might with a simple construction approach to La Jacinthe (although I could make it as complex as possible with full framing), and I still might do that, but I think I'd prefer the challenge to take me to a level at which I'd then decide to hone existing skills. We'll see! Tony Niklas, mtaylor and Canute 3 === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
bbrockel Posted May 10, 2017 #128 Posted May 10, 2017 Beautiful work, Tony. tkay11, Canute and mtaylor 3 "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64
tkay11 Posted May 10, 2017 Author #129 Posted May 10, 2017 Thanks for that, Bob! Thanks to the cross-section I now have a far better understanding of what's involved in building plank-on-frame and am deep in the study of the Rochefort plans -- which is doing my French no end of good! Did you ever finish your Triton? Tony mtaylor and Canute 2 === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
bbrockel Posted June 2, 2017 #130 Posted June 2, 2017 Not yet, Tony. Working on the US Brig Syren at the moment tkay11, mtaylor and Canute 3 "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64
Lynn Young Posted August 27, 2020 #131 Posted August 27, 2020 Hi Tony, I think you mentioned somewhere in your log that you have a 0.3mm blade for your Proxxon table saw. Can I ask where you got it from? cheers, Lynn
tkay11 Posted August 27, 2020 Author #132 Posted August 27, 2020 I think the blade you may be thinking of is the one I have for the Proxxon mini drill. These are made by a variety of manufacturers and easily available on Amazon and eBay. They are for any drill that can hold a shaft of 3.15mm (e.g. Dremel), and are 22mm in diameter. They are not at all expensive. The smallest one I have for the Proxxon table saw is 0.5mm kerf, (0.02in) which I obtained from MicroMark in the US, together with an adapter for the Proxxon. I hope that helps. Tony mtaylor and Canute 2 === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
Lynn Young Posted August 27, 2020 #133 Posted August 27, 2020 Many thanks for the info. I have a Dremel, so I think I will invest in some saws for it. I may also make a jig which will hold the Dremel like a table saw! I got additional saw blades for the Proxxon from Axminster Tools, they have a reasonable range. I look forward to more logs from you. Lynn Canute, mtaylor and tkay11 3
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