Moring Posted December 10, 2017 Share #1 Posted December 10, 2017 Hello! I have always enjoyed building miniatures and now with my recent dive into nautical history, this forum has become a goldmine of inspiration! The amount of talent presented on this forum is simply astounding. I have built quite a few miniatures in my life but have yet to build any proper shipmodels, apart from a quick SIB I threw together a late night recently in a spurt of inspiration. Notice the lack of the staysail between masts. Forgot to install it before I had glued in the foremast, Oh well. About as good as I could do without proper tweezers or paintbrushes. Currently investing in better tools for any upcoming proper SIBs I will be building. Currently gathering info about, and planning to some day build the Grace Harwar square rigger in a bottle. As my great grandfather sailed on her in 1929 as a carpenter and later as second mate, the same voyage documented by Alan Villiers in his book By the way of Cape horn. The guy holding the cup, to the right behind the skipper, is my great grandfather R. Mansnerus. Picture is from the article "Rounding the horn in a windjammer" by Alan Villiers in The national geographic magazine Vol. 59 No.2 February 1931 Glad to take part in this community! ,John Elijah, mtaylor and ccoyle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted December 10, 2017 Share #2 Posted December 10, 2017 Hello John, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. John mtaylor, geoff, Moring and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 10, 2017 Share #3 Posted December 10, 2017 John, Welcome to MSW or can I say Terve to you? Found this info regarding the Grace Harwar. geoff and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moring Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Terve to you too! I have already come across that site and certainly some interesting info on there! Although I hadn't noticed that it specified the length of the forecastle and the poop, so thanks for that! But I find it quite hard to find any info on the ship. Except the little I found by googling. Luckily Villiers took some pictures and filmed some video on her, that I now have been using to start some sketches on the layout of her deck. I currently have Alan Villiers book on order so looking forward to reading it and I've heard it contains some pictures that will be of further help. Beginner question: Does the stated lenght of a ship usually include the bowsprit or not? And I'd guess the stated width of a ship would be the hull and not the yard? Edited December 11, 2017 by Moring Elijah and geoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 11, 2017 Share #5 Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Moring said: Beginner question: Does the stated lenght of a ship usually include the bowsprit or not? And I'd guess the stated width of a ship would be the hull and not the yard? I believe the answer is "it depends". No it wouldn't include the bowsprit. But... different countries and even sometimes varied from shipyard to shipyard on where the measurement was actually taken from. Moring, Elijah and geoff 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxis Posted December 11, 2017 Share #6 Posted December 11, 2017 Terve vaan John täältä Suomesta! You might try to contact the Maritime Museum in Maarianhamina: https://www.sjofartsmuseum.ax/en/ They have a lot of information about old sailing ships used to sail under Finnish flag. Elijah, Moring, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff Posted December 11, 2017 Share #7 Posted December 11, 2017 Welcome to MSW John, or is it good morning "Moring"!? All the best, Geoff mtaylor, Moring and Elijah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moring Posted December 11, 2017 Author Share #8 Posted December 11, 2017 Thanks for the replies! I will contact the Maritime Museum in Maarianhamina and see what they have to offer! I have actually visited that place loads of times, great museum! Really recommend it if you sometime happen to be in the area! They are currently renovating their museum ship Pommern, and building her a permanent drydock. Soon the poor ol' girl wont be able to enjoy the sea anymore. I went to see her a month ago, hoping to get to speak to a worker there and maybe score a piece of her old deck, but no luck. Maybe I'll ask the museum about that too. mtaylor, Elijah and Moxis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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