flying_dutchman2 Posted October 15, 2018 Author #211 Posted October 15, 2018 Wood used on the vanes. Long piece that holds it together (Roede) is poplar. Piece on top of the roede and the windbord is cherry. Horizontal (heklatten) and vertical (zoomlatten) slats are purpleheart. Someone at the woodclub gave me a big tube full of it. So I thought that it would be a perfect fit as it is strong and dark in color. Marcus Canute, cog, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 16, 2018 Author #212 Posted October 16, 2018 Vanes (wieken) completed. Marcus thibaultron, yvesvidal, druxey and 7 others 10 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 22, 2018 Author #213 Posted October 22, 2018 Bought some more supplies to finish the mill. Menards: 1 quart of Cliff gray Max Bond exterior paint. This is to imitate the thatch. Hobby Lobby: More acrylic paints. Orange, Grass green, Black, Titanium white and Crimson For the bricks that will be glued to the foundation wall. AMACO 10 lbs Air Dry clay ($11.00), terra cotta color. Made a template of poplar with 56 rectangular holes 3/4" by 1/4" by 1/4". Took pieces of clay and press in the molds, making sure that the corners are filled in. Once all clay is in the molds, scrape off excess clay on both sides. The mold is filled with clay. Use a scrap piece of wood that is the same size as the mold and gently push out the clay bricks (looks like little loafs of bread) . SO far it seems to work. Once dry I can always sand the edges. Not all of them are the same size. This process can be applied to any size bricks. I opted out of the method that uses tile grout and fortified as I had previously mentioned in this build. This method is cheaper, no mixing of material and works just the same. I don't know how long it takes to air dry but I assume it has to do with the temp. and humidity of the location. Marcus Kevin, Elijah, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 22, 2018 #214 Posted October 22, 2018 3 hours ago, flying_dutchman2 said: I don't know how long it takes to air dry but I assume it has to do with the temp. and humidity of the location. You are right, there. Take into account that for the inside to dry completely it takes a bit longer (at your size certainly an hour ). However, since, I presume, you won't bake your bricks, you can buildwithout the need to wait for them to dry throughout. Bricks used to be molded, and dried in the mold, when outwardly dry, demolded and stacked to dry further for baking. The process has changed considerably since the industrial revolution Elijah, mtaylor, thibaultron and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 22, 2018 Author #215 Posted October 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, cog said: You are right, there. Take into account that for the inside to dry completely it takes a bit longer (at your size certainly an hour ). However, since, I presume, you won't bake your bricks. I am letting them dry overnight. Baking? At what temp. and how long, is it better than air drying? I went to the website of this product and can't find anything on baking this type of clay I will paint it a darker red and use lacquer on it to protect it from the weather Marcus thibaultron, cog, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 23, 2018 #216 Posted October 23, 2018 bricks are baked to make them durable - weather resistant - however, your regular oven won't do. don't fret, your solution works too. you might want to use a satin or matt water resistant varnish. glossy lacquer ... not so mill like ... Elijah, thibaultron, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 23, 2018 Author #217 Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, cog said: you might want to use a satin or matt water resistant varnish. glossy lacquer ... not so mill like ... My plan was matt lacquer. The varnish idea sounds like a good idea as well. Any of the shiny paints that are on the mill get a coat of Dull coat. Marcus thibaultron, Elijah and Canute 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 23, 2018 Author #218 Posted October 23, 2018 Bricks were completely dry and several had there edges sanded off. Most of them are similar in shape. I stacked them to make a wall and a few are off, so those I won't use. Took about 2-1/2 hours to make around 200 bricks, this is excluding drying. After looking at many mill pictures on the Net and in a mill booklet I have decided how to paint the vanes. I am using the colors from the instructions and may improvise a bit. Started on the first coat vanes. The roede is black on all sides, the windbord is chromium oxide green on both sides, the vertical slats (zoomlatten) are Titanium white on the front and the horizontal slats (heklatten) are chromium oxide green on the front. Lots of mills don't have paint on the back and sides of the horizontal and vertical slats. I think I mentioned the reason already. The Miller doesn't paint the slats so he can climb on the vanes to check for broken areas. Marcus Geoff Matson, cog, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
amateur Posted October 23, 2018 #219 Posted October 23, 2018 Are those 200 enough, or will there be a second batch? jan thibaultron, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 23, 2018 Author #220 Posted October 23, 2018 3 hours ago, amateur said: Are those 200 enough, or will there be a second batch? jan There will be many more. My guess is 200-250 for one side. I have 8 sides. Under 2000 should be enough. The clay cost $11.00 for 10 lbs which is 4.5 kilo. Pretty cheap. When the mill is completed it will be heavy so a strong wind should not be a problem. Marcus Canute, thibaultron, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 24, 2018 Author #221 Posted October 24, 2018 Made another batch of bricks this AM, around 330. I dry stacked bricks on the foundation template and it is not 200 but 80-100 depending on an extra layer. Off to painting another coat on the vanes Marcus Canute, cog, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 26, 2018 Author #222 Posted October 26, 2018 Started working on the triangular piece (kruiwerk) opposite of the vanes which is the back. Measured the strips that were needed and put a coat of primer on them. The second coat of paint has been applied and the mill is starting to look good. While the gray paint was still wet, added a bit of yellow ochre and brown to it and with a brush, brushed downward strokes. Need to do some areas again. Then I will add a picture here. At the woodclub yesterday someone mentioned a site that sells high quality silicone molds for bricks, pavers, blocks, etc. Should have known, I would have purchased the brick mold. Some of my bricks are a bit uneven. The molds eliminate that. My bricks will have that 'old look'. Site is called hirstarts.com They send international as well. Marcus thibaultron, Canute, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 29, 2018 Author #223 Posted October 29, 2018 Finished painting the vanes. All I need to do is balance them and once that is completed, drill a hole through the red part and the copper tubing and put a nail through it so the vanes stay in place. Close up of the axle head. The piece of paper with numbers is that when I take the vanes off I put them back where they were initially. These are penanten. The are located on the corners at the bottom of the mill. These are called the kruipalen. These stakes are located in the garden. That big triangular piece (kruibalk), the bottom of it corresponds with the stakes that are on the ground. Questions for Jan. What are the kruipalen for? Is it to let people know that this is a danger zone? What are the penanten for ? Is this made of concrete and holds the mill in place? Still need to do the bricks, put and place the triangular piece permanently put the cap and mill together with a bolt and nut and some more painting. Marcus cog, mtaylor, druxey and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 29, 2018 #224 Posted October 29, 2018 kruipalen are to turn the head with he vanes. the rope is attached to them so by spinning the wheel you turn it penanten either concrete or brick and mortar foundation thibaultron and Canute 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
amateur Posted October 29, 2018 #225 Posted October 29, 2018 THe pennants, I dont know, the kruipalen are vital in the turning of the mill to the wind (or out of the wind) attached to the mill is the kruiwerk: some very heavy beams that are fixed to the kap. At the bottom of the kruiwerk, is an axle wich a large wheel. Attached to that axle is a rope (or chain, doesn't matter too much, as long as it is strong enough). To turn the mill to the wind, one end of the rope is fixed to one of the kruipalen, and then the miller starts turnong that large wheel, so the rope is wou d up on that axle. This turns the mill. So these kruipalen are important, and they are rather heavy, relatively long poles, driven i to the ground. Jan thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote
amateur Posted October 29, 2018 #226 Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Cog beat me by just thirty seconds..... Jan Edited October 29, 2018 by amateur Canute, cog, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote
amateur Posted October 29, 2018 #227 Posted October 29, 2018 andante, mtaylor, thibaultron and 4 others 7 Quote
cog Posted October 29, 2018 #228 Posted October 29, 2018 ah but you got a video, amateur!! mtaylor, Canute and thibaultron 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 29, 2018 Author #229 Posted October 29, 2018 # Jan and Cog, thank you both for the information and Jan for the video. So once you have moved the kruibalk with the kruiwiel you leave the rope that is attached to the kruiwiel tied to the kruipaal so the cap and the vanes do not move Must be a heavy rope or chain to keep it steady. Took the vanes and the cap of the mill and turned it upside down. Installed the first layer of bricks. As glue I am using the same material that I used to make the thatch. I think it will look good. Bit uneven but that gives it character. 😀 Marcus Canute, mtaylor, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
amateur Posted October 30, 2018 #230 Posted October 30, 2018 No. No need to have a very strong rope, as soos as the mill faces the wind, there are almost no forces that will turn it als, when turned put of the wind, the wind is blowimg sideways or from behind, again not very strong forces. but there is indeed a chain to prevent turning. (Some mills have the safety system sewhere inside in the head.) jan Canute, thibaultron and mtaylor 3 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 30, 2018 Author #231 Posted October 30, 2018 Working on the brick wall. Ran out of the little bit of tile glue I had left over so now I am using flooring adhesive. Works well. More liquidity so it goes in all the empty spaces. I apply it with a syringe. Layers of bricks. I know I am going to run out of bricks so I'll have to make more. Once the foundation wall is finished I will let it dry for a week. Then I will add a combo of tight bond glue and clay dust to fill in the large crevices, then lightly sand some of the edges to give it a more even look. Because the clay is a bit brittle, I will use a primer and paint it crimson red which looks like brick red and finalizing with several coats of lacquer. Hopefully with all these layers of material it will hold out in the weather. Marcus mtaylor, Elijah, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 30, 2018 Author #232 Posted October 30, 2018 Ran out of bricks, need to make another 150. This is what the wall looks like. Very uneven, but I will sand it. Marcus mtaylor, Elijah, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 6, 2018 Author #233 Posted November 6, 2018 Made another batch of bricks and installed the two bottom layers. Let it dry for a couple of days. Then I will sand the bricks somewhat even. The red blocks on the corners are called pananten. They are usually made of concrete and are there to keep the foundation walls in place. Finished painting the triangular piece (kruiwerk). At the end of the long slender sticks there are light red caps (klapmutsen). Jan or Cog might know what they are for. Once bricks are sanded and painted I will also add a coat of Dullcoat to all the shiny paint. Still need to make the hooks that will be placed in the window frames which are for the shutters. Also need to add a flag, a vangstok (long stick painted in red, white and blue stripes, when the stick is down the mill is operational and up, it is not or the other way around) and a few other things. Than put it all together and balance the vanes. Marcus Canute, thibaultron, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 7, 2018 Author #234 Posted November 7, 2018 After filling in the gaps from the bricks with a glue /sawdust paste and let it dry overnight, I put primer on them. This primer dries in 2 hours. Installed the triangular piece (kruiwerk). Put the cap on two crates and screwed the big piece (kruibalk) in place. Nailed the slender pieces (korte en lange schoor) into the designated area (lange en korte spruit). Attached the slender pieces to the big piece of wood by first gluing them together, then drill a hole through it and hammering a small metal rod into it. Couldn't use a screw or nail. Let it dry. Painted the first coat of crimson on the bricks. This will dry dark red. Marcus Elijah, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
amateur Posted November 8, 2018 #235 Posted November 8, 2018 the klapmuts is top protect the wooden beam of the kruiwerk: long heavy wood is expensive, so you need to be protection against water entering. (the kruiwerk is too important and too expensive to be hampered with rot) Jan Canute, mtaylor, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 8, 2018 Author #236 Posted November 8, 2018 Touched up the bricks and the clinker wall. Added a second coat of various colors on top and on the bottom of the cap. The cobalt blue is called heaven (het hemeltje). Cut out the front and back beards (voor en achter baard). The front will be located on cap under the vanes. There is lettering on that such as the year it was established and a name. The back one is also located on the cap behind the triangular piece (kruiwerk). Marcus Canute, Jack12477, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 8, 2018 Author #237 Posted November 8, 2018 On a different note, anybody hear from Piet lately? Did a hurricane pass through his town? Marcus Elijah, mtaylor, thibaultron and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
amateur Posted November 8, 2018 #238 Posted November 8, 2018 Nope, and his last visit to msw dates back to september 4th. Jan mtaylor, Canute and thibaultron 3 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 9, 2018 Author #239 Posted November 9, 2018 Installed the various ropes. The vangstok which is painted in the colors of red, white and blue their is a rope at the end. At the downwards position means that the vanes are moving. In the up position means that the mill stopt turning. Adding a flag mast with a Dutch flag. The flag is a leftover from the Utrecht. Going to see how it holds up to the outside. Working on attaching the window shutters to the window frames and addind the steps at the bottom of the door frame. Marcus mtaylor, Canute, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 9, 2018 Author #240 Posted November 9, 2018 Installed the shutters and still need to make a hook so they stay open There are two steps and here is one of them. Marcus Canute, mtaylor, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
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