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And a question: the plans show the horse below the tiller. This doesn’t make sense to me, seems like it would interfere with the rigging on the horse. I think I read something about it somewhere in somebody’s build log but I don’t remember whose log it was. I think I want to make the horse taller so that it is above the tiller… your thoughts?? Thanks!

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18 hours ago, SomethingIsFishy said:

the plans show the horse below the tiller

The plans may be wrong if the contemporary plan ZAZ7322 in the RMG Collections is correct which shows what I think is the horse above the tiller.

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18 hours ago, SomethingIsFishy said:

This doesn’t make sense to me

It doesn't make sense to anybody.

 

However, the Medway model shows a horse barely above the seat.

 

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This can be a very puzzling hobby.

Craig.

 

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2 hours ago, iMustBeCrazy said:

It doesn't make sense to anybody.

 

However, the Medway model shows a horse barely above the seat.

 

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This can be a very puzzling hobby.

This is basically what the instructions show. The horse is just above the cap rail in front of the transom, and the tiller passes over the horse…

 

 I really appreciate the feedback!

 

 I think, since I am not trying to replicate any specific boat and therefore don’t have a good reason to follow the directions when they don’t seem to make sense, I am going to put the horse above the tiller. Perhaps the imaginary sailors that will sail this boat will appreciate the change…

 

One more question: I found a video on YouTube by Bruce Algar of his ALB build. He has the horse above the tiller, and mounted to the top of the transom. I’m wondering if I should mount mine to the transom, or make it taller and mount it to the cap rail in front of the transom. It looks a bit weaker to me with it mounted to the transom… I don’t know how much force is on the horse, but it seems like mounting it to the cap rail would be more robust… again I am grateful for your thoughts!!!

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1 hour ago, SomethingIsFishy said:

I am going to put the horse above the tiller.

I do sometimes think "on my boat I'd do it like this". And then do it my way.

 

1 hour ago, SomethingIsFishy said:

One more question

Probably in the corner of the knee, like this:

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I would also keep the tiller just above the transom so the horse isn't too tall, put a slight bow in the horse and bend it's 'legs' so that it is vertical above where it goes through the knee. But that's just how I'd do it. ;)

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SomethingIsFishy said:

 I think, since I am not trying to replicate any specific boat and therefore don’t have a good reason to follow the directions when they don’t seem to make sense, I am going to put the horse above the tiller.

(The following may be an exaggeration)...... There are a thousand discrepancies when comparing modern plans and contemporary plans, and hundreds between contemporary plans and contemporary models as well.  Regarding contemporary models, many have been refurbished/repaired over the past 200 to 300 years so a little care needs to be taken in relying on these gorgeous pieces of art.   Common sense is often forgotten so good for you not to ignore it.

Allan

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