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After marking up the stocks to indicate for the tapper I used my rotary disc sander to remove the excess wood. The treenails and “bolts” were made in the same fashion as the treenails used elsewhere on the model. They” were then inserted into the pre drilled holes. The only difference between the constructions of the two was that the “bolts” were colored black with a Sharpie pen. The bolts were also made a bit shorter to ensure they would fit flush upon insertion. I didn’t want to snip the dark ends off when everything was made flush. In the end, you can barely see the treenails and one could argue this step could have been skipped and no one would be the wiser. Still, I’m glad I did do it.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Adding the “metal” bands turned out to be the trickiest part. The bands were made of 1 mm wide black paper. Trying to limit the amount of glue and still hold the thin paper strip in place without ripping it allowed me to practice some nautical vulgarity. I must be getting good at it, the cat ran away.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The last touch was adding the shank ring. The ring that came with the kit was shiny brass. Using the Sharpie pen again I colored the ring black.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

These look good and accurate.  Sorry about your cat, but they do tend to get anxious hearing sailors speak like pirates, aar!

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

Posted

Before the anchor is installed the Practicum states there is a layer of planking between the second and third gunport that protected the hull when the anchor was raised up to the stored position. What the technical term for this is I don’t know but I’ll call it “reinforcing” planks. The practicum calls for 1/32” x 3/32 boxwood ¼” long to create them. As shown in all the plans they were laid out is a slight arc and appeared to cut through the thin molding strip just above the gunports. The photos in the Practicum show that Bob Hunt straddled the molding. I then looked at my collection of Rattlesnake model pictures which showed that some straddled, some cut through, and others appears to go over the molding. I reasoned that if the molding was left “naked” it would have been battered by the anchor so I opted to have the reinforcing cut through the molding.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The pieces were then glued on following the line I traced from the drawing template.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Once the pieces were trimmed and sanded, the tree nails were drilled with a #70 bit. The tree nails were inserted and “glued” in place with Wipe-on Poly.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

After the drying, the excess treenails were cut off, sanded, and finally coat of Wipe-on Poly applied.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Hey, I like the treenails in those anchor planks -- they look so good that I'm starting to think of going back and adding them to my own.

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

Posted

Great! How come you initially elected not to install them?

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The anchor builds are based on Blue Ensign's build of the HMS Pegasus, a beautiful build chock full of goodies to contemplate. Thanks BE!

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

FYI

 

I finally found out what the “reinforcing” planks are called. Per Jackstay, by Campbell they are called Billboards. “The word ‘bill’ in billboards comes from the tip of the anchor fluke which was called the Bill.”

 

Installing the Anchor

 

The Practicum called for a double pulley hanging off the cathead to lift the anchor into its stored position. The MS plans showed a triple block and the Mamoli plans showed a single block. The Hahn plans don’t address any detail about this. Well that makes it clear as mud. So based on other models, the consensus is a double block rigged the way the Practicum calls for it. So be it!

 

The Mamoli kit obviously comes with blocks, the problem is they are bad; badly made, and bad to look at. Just compare these two double blocks. The one on the left was from the kit. The one on the right was made by Chuck Passaro’s company www.Syrenshipmodelcompany.com which, even at a smaller size, is superior in workmanship. All my blocks used on this model have been or will be supplied by a third party for this reason.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The blocks in this case needed a hook. The practicum stated: “I used some annealed black wire I had that was gauge.” Bob Hunt then bent the wire around the block and twisted it a few time to secure it. He didn't state what gauge he used. The Mamoli plans indicated that the hook was 0.5 mm. I had some music wire of various diameters and used 0.02” (0.5 mm). The music wire is the right color and strength but a bitch to bend especially at such small lengths. Instead, I drilled a hole in the block and inserted the wire in the shape of a hook and wrapped black thread as the stropping. It looked clean and at this size only the most discerning eye would notice. It is a model after all, not a miniature reproduction.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The blocks were then rigged to the cathead following the Practicum. Final touches await the addition of the anchors.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Nice work, Jon.  You're right to toss the kit's blocks.  I tried making my own for a while, and the ones for the gun tackle don't look too terribly horrible, since they're pretty tiny, but the ones for the anchors are, to put it simply, unsightly.  As for the hooks, I followed the very same procedure as you, and if I recall, I got it from someone's log on MSW 1 -- maybe it was even Chuck's log.  The main point is that it works.

 

As to why I didn't treenail the billboards (and it's great to have a name!), I think it was because I didn't notice them on other builds.  I could be wrong there, though.  But I also imagined that in a real ship these would probably be replaced frequently, and so would not be considered permanent.  Probably the real -- and most honest -- reason was that I was too lazy, and too ready to start on the masts.

 

Keep at it!

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

Posted

I've just discovered that I attached the blocks 90 degrees off. The block sheeves should be facing the same direction as the cathead's. Easy enough to fix, but I've run into another quandary - how is the anchor tied to the anchor rope? The Practicum uses a simple knot and seizing, the MS plans/instructions show a fancy seizing with no knot, Mamoli shows some sort of knot but does not describe, and others I've seen are a simple loop through the anchor ring and seized together. Anybody got ideas?

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted (edited)

Well as it has been noted I made some mistakes when I installed the cathead rigging. The double block was installed 90º to the cathead sheaves when it should have been parallel. It was also pointed out to me that the rope should not have a knot as instructed by the Practicum but be started from an eyelet. These errors were corrected.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The anchor rope was tied to the anchor ring with an Inside Clinch after discussion with Blue Ensign on his HMS Pegasus build log. Thank very much for your input

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

At the time I constructed the hawser openings, I did not have rope to test the opening size. As it turned out I needed to increase the openings by 1/32”. The anchor rope, by the way, I also bought from www.Syrenshipmodelcompany.com. Because of the close fit, I used a piece of string as a leader to thread through the opening and taped the anchor rope to it and pulled it through. It worked very well.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Per the Practicum the anchor passes through three rings imbedded in the deck. Both the Mamoli and the MS plans show the rope passes through a rope ring which is attached to another ring which in turn is attached to the deck ring. The Hahn plans are silent on this. To create the rope ring, which I assume in real life is a rope with its two ends spliced together, I tied a simple knot on a bamboo skewer (the same ones I used to make my tree nails) and put a small dab of CA glue where the lines overlap. The skewer just happened to be the same diameter as the rings I wanted to make.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Once dried, the ends were trimmed off and I had my rope rings.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

The rope ring and the deck eyelet were then attached to the metal ring and the eyelet was trimmed so it could fit into the predrilled hole in the deck. 

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

These were then strung onto the anchor rope and inserted into the deck. Once everything is in its place, the final details will be done.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

Looking at the anchor rope again I realized I made a couple of errors:

  • I  looped the rope incorrectly
  • I discovered that I had installed the bitt backwards

Per the Practicum, the anchor rope is simply looped over the outside of the bitt once. Per the Mamoli plan (the picture below), the rope starts under the inside of the bitt, comes up goes around the post and under the outside of the bitt. The MS plan is the same as the Mamoli except at the end it goes over the outside of the bitt. I chose Mamoli's method. It just seemed more secure. Is it right? I have no idea.

The bitt was removed and reinstalled correctly. It wasn't until the rope rigging was questioned did I notice the incorrect installation.

Here is what it presently looks like. Mind you, the anchor nor the anchor ropes are rigged in their final secured positions.

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Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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Posted

This is looking good, Jon.  That rope from Syren you used on the anchor looks especially good -- it caught my eye immediately.  I'm also interested in the "rope" rings you installed, since I don't remember these at all.  I'll have to look at my own build this evening next to the MS plans -- I do recall that I just made some large diameter ring bolts and ran the rope through them.  But like you, I installed the fore bitts in the wrong place and had to pull it out.

 

Great photos, and impressive progress.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

Posted

Welcome bdr449. So glad that you like my blog. I hope that my successes and failures help you in your build.

Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution
 
Past Builds:    Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake

                         Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake

                         Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen
                         Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter

 
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