HMB Endeavour by Micklen32 - OcCre - 1:54

[Micklen32]

Hi Mick,

 

Anja is running that fast …….but I'm running with her ( not to long )

I watch your samson post and one comment…( If you don't mind  )why are you not using a round file ?

 

What I'm talking about, you are doing more then I do at this moment !

I can only give comment 

Great job on the stern….love the blue !

 

Keep on going and I'm following.

 

 

Hi Sjors

I use a normal flat file on the Samson posts because the shape is square according to the OcCre instructions

Have you an idea they should be a rounder shape ????

As you can see in my photo they are a sort of inverted pyramid shape on the square

 

Anyway get well soon Sjors

 

Mick

[Micklen32]

wow you have progressed heaps and its looking good

 

it ll probably another year before i am where you are

Great to hear from you Adriaan

I hope you are improving at a fast rate

I am certainly not rushing on this one

These small parts particularly are taking a lot of time with the problems with my fingers

 

I hope you get back to normal soon though Adriaan, you are missed

 

Keep it up   

Mick

Edited August 26, 2013 by Micklen32

[shipaholic]

Hi Mick

No they're not meant to be rounded. I only used a flat file for mine, here is some pics showing what shape mine are.

Steve

[Sjors]

Hi mick,

 

Here is a picture of mine samson post and as you know, my build is also from OcCre...

 

[Micklen32]

Hi Mick

No they're not meant to be rounded. I only used a flat file for mine, here is some pics showing what shape mine are.

Steve

Yes that is how I am doing mine Steve

The wood quality looks a little different though   

Mine are definitely not the quality of yours

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[Micklen32]

Right.  Hello all 

I thought I had better come on with proof that I haven't just been sitting around watching TV   

 

I have been hard at work on the samson posts and columns for the gallant rail as you know 

Here's the pile I have ready so far 

 

 

I also made some things I haven't got a clue about 

The fairleads

 

 

What are they ?????????????????????

 

Then I knocked up a quick skylight  

 

 

As we always say.  Macro is not always our friend 

 

And finally I have been at work on the two companion hatches

 

 

I have taken a bit of extra time to do all the cills and finishes with 45 degree angles unlike the OcCre method of just doing square angles as I think they look so much neater

 

Anyway as you can see I am still doing a bit

So I am Keeping it up   

Mick

[Micklen32]

Hi mick,

 

Here is a picture of mine samson post and as you know, my build is also from OcCre...

 

I see Sjors

The instructions on mine show very clearly sharp angles

Different ship, different samson posts I guess

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[Anja]

Hello Mick,

 

 

I also made some things I haven't got a clue about 

The fairleads

 

 

What are they ?????????????????????

 

As far as my knowledge goes, a fairlead is a device such as a block of wood with a hole in it.

The rigging is passed through it to hold it in place or prevent it from snagging or chafing.

I don't know if it has any other purpose.

 

Anja

[Micklen32]

Hello Mick,

 

As far as my knowledge goes, a fairlead is a device such as a block of wood with a hole in it.

The rigging is passed through it to hold it in place or prevent it from snagging or chafing.

I don't know if it has any other purpose.

 

Anja

 

AAaaaaaaah  Thanks Anja   

I hadn't got a clue but the build has 2 big and 2 little ones sitting in the gallant rail

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[aliluke]

You're doing well Mick. As you say - keep it up!

 

Cheers

Alistair

[Micklen32]

Hi Everyone

I need some opinions

Looking at other peoples builds and particularly their chains I look at the way OcCre tell me to do it and it definitely lacks something 

So I had a thought and got some 0.6mm wire as the 1mm that comes with the kit would be too thick for what I have planned

I must admit I have taken some ideas from other chains I have seen   

 

Anyway here is what I have produced.  What do you think ???

 

 

It may need slight adjustments to fit and I was also thinking of putting another twist in the middle to make it look a bit fancier

It's about 20mm long

So what do you think???

Ok as it is 

Make it a bit fancier 

Throw it in the rubbish 

 

Keeping it up 

Mick

[Sjors]

Hi Mick,

 

OcCre tells me the same thing…...

But I change it because I don't like it at all.

I'm gonna order the same chains that i used with the Le Mirage.

They are black and looks much better.

 

[Micklen32]

Hi Mick,

 

OcCre tells me the same thing…...

But I change it because I don't like it at all.

I'm gonna order the same chains that i used with the Le Mirage.

They are black and looks much better.

 

That is why I tried to make it a bit fancier by making the one above

The OcCre rendition is just a single wire coming down

So.  Are you saying that the one above still isn't up to it and I ought to get some better chains, or what   

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[Sjors]

I'm gonna change them Mick,

 

I don't like the brass and the whole system.

If you like it, then just keep it this way.

 

[Micklen32]

I'm gonna change them Mick,

 

I don't like the brass and the whole system.

If you like it, then just keep it this way.

 

I have had a look at the chainplates on Le Mirage and I see they are totally different having to go round the cannon etc

I think i will try to design my own as all the ones I have seen for sale I am not over keen with

They won't be brass though

I will either blacken them or paint them black

Watch this space and I will have a play   

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[Adrieke]

hi Mick. when you design them you can always reference the plenty of pictures that are on the web like this one :

 

http://beyondbluestockings.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/ahoy-its-the-hmb-endeavour/

 

i am not sure if the endeavour is back on display. if it is i might go see her soon and get loads of pictures

[aliluke]

Hi Mick

Your first experiment with the chain plates...bin it mate - to be frank. The hardest job you'll have with that is repeating it and it doesn't look the part to my eye anyway. I suggest looking at Cornwall Models, or similar, for fittings from other manufacturers if you aren't happy with the Occre ones. Making these parts  by hand is really, really hard and not necessary when there are good alternatives available for little cost from another kit maker. They are a difficult but critical part of the model - both in terms of look and strength. Save yourself the grief in my humble opinion and buy something that suits.

 

Cheers

Alistair

[Micklen32]

hi Mick. when you design them you can always reference the plenty of pictures that are on the web like this one :

 

http://beyondbluestockings.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/ahoy-its-the-hmb-endeavour/

 

i am not sure if the endeavour is back on display. if it is i might go see her soon and get loads of pictures

Thank you Adriaan

The ones on that photo seem to be a simple chain down to a flat securing piece

Similar to what is available at local shops so I think I will buy 

 

 

Hi Mick

Your first experiment with the chain plates...bin it mate - to be frank. The hardest job you'll have with that is repeating it and it doesn't look the part to my eye anyway. I suggest looking at Cornwall Models, or similar, for fittings from other manufacturers if you aren't happy with the Occre ones. Making these parts  by hand is really, really hard and not necessary when there are good alternatives available for little cost from another kit maker. They are a difficult but critical part of the model - both in terms of look and strength. Save yourself the grief in my humble opinion and buy something that suits.

 

Cheers

Alistair

I know exactly what you mean Alistair and thank you for being so frank   

They are a very important and visual part of the build and I think I will get some from Cornwall who I do deal with already

They come with the strop, 2 chain pieces and a flat bit so very similar to what the replica has

They do come with deadeyes as well if you want them 

They look quite dark and I think they are walnut as opposed to the boxwood ones 

I will have a think on that

Thanks a lot

 

Keep it up   

Mick

Edited August 30, 2013 by Micklen32

[Micklen32]

Been very busy recently with hospital visits etc but I have some good news to share

My last CT scan showed that one nodule was unchanged, one had reduced in size slightly and one they weren't sure about had disappeared

I mean, it will never go away but news like that is great

The longer it stays like that the better     

 

I did a bit to the build 

 

 

It's amazing how good stuff you make by hand looks until you come to use it   

I know they look ok and a normal person would not see the differences probably, especially once they are stained

But they are not perfect to me Though I know what with my limited skill and poorly fingers I can't do a lot better  :mellow: 

So they will have to do

Taking it a bit easy at the moment   

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[Micklen32]

Carried on with the samson posts, columns and handrails

Gave them a coat of stain and that's them virtually finished   

Would you normally have loops of rope around a few samson posts????????????????

 

 

I have also given the hull a coat of white to make a start on finishing the painting off

It will need quite a few more coats yet I think   

Next jobs are deck furniture

I have been resting a lot more though so things will take a bit of time from now on

Maybe a bit more like normal people   

 

Keeping it up   

Mick

Edited August 31, 2013 by Micklen32

[RGL]

It took me several years to get to your point in the build, fast work indeed

[aliluke]

Looking good Mick and I'm glad my thoughts on your chain plates didn't offend. I don't really know enough about Endeavour to answer your rope coil question but to my eye they always look good if done well and not to excess. Also they are about the last thing to add which is a lot further down the road than where you are at. I like doing deck furniture - enjoy!

 

Cheers

Alistair

[Captain Slog]

Hi Mick,

 

You are progressing well.  Your 'white stuff' looks nice and straight.  I do believe various bits of running rigging were tied off on the samson posts (think the correct term is timberheads?) but can't be sure as still far off from that point.

 

I have been at my build for over 3 years on and off so don't worry about progress.  I to enjoy doing deck furniture which has influenced my next potential build.

 

Cheers

Slog

[Micklen32]

Well I have been hard at work on deck stuff

Here is what I have managed so far

 

 

The skylight is a lot different from some of the other Endeavour builds but it is what I have so it will do I think

The companion hatches have come out awful in the photo   

Hey ho   

Does anyone know how they use the capstan when it is stuck where it is between everything   

Tried to make a bit better job of the bitts rather than just sticking three bits of wood together   

The little steps are a triumph as I am normally hopeless at putting those together with glue and bits of wood everywhere   

And the Falconet posts   

They are taking forever

The ones in the photo need another wrap of brass and then there are another five to make  :mellow: 

It's not like that is really thin brass that easily wrapped round

It is quite thick and I use two pairs of pliers to bend it round the post then could do with at least another hand   

Anyway things are getting done and if the Falconet supports take all of tomorrow, who cares   

 

Definitely keeping it up   

Mick

[aliluke]

Mick - A quick and very effective way of doing the brass strips on your swivel gun posts is to use paper. Blacken the paper with a Sharpie, cut the strips, blacken the edges and wrap. No one will know and they will fit tighter to the posts and be much more in scale. Paper is a very good friend in model making both as a finished piece and also as a template that can't be seen. It is cheap too...

 

I'm slightly surprised by how black everything looks. What's the plan there? Are you staining the pieces?

 

Cheers,

Alistair

[Micklen32]

Mick - A quick and very effective way of doing the brass strips on your swivel gun posts is to use paper. Blacken the paper with a Sharpie, cut the strips, blacken the edges and wrap. No one will know and they will fit tighter to the posts and be much more in scale. Paper is a very good friend in model making both as a finished piece and also as a template that can't be seen. It is cheap too...

 

I'm slightly surprised by how black everything looks. What's the plan there? Are you staining the pieces?

 

Cheers,

Alistair

Oh dear Alistair, Isn't that cheating a bit   

I honestly don't mind bending the brass, I like a challenge   

 

As to the other bits, the photo has made them look very dark

I would guess it's the flash

They are stained with walnut

The Falconet supports will be stained cherry and the brass painted black

 

Keep it up   

Mick

[Captain Slog]

Hi Mick, progressing well.

 

As Alistair says, paper/card is the way to go. I used paper for my cannonade posts.  Caldercraft supply a sheet of black cartridge paper with there kit but like you I wanted to use brass so bought some brass sheets to make all these things out of and guess what ended up using the black paper where ever I could!

 

Cheers

Slog

[RGL]

It's only cheating if you are caught!

[aliluke]

Mick

There is plenty of "cheating" going on in ship model making - paper for brass, styrene for wood, glue for nails...I reckon finding a method that is easier while also being more accurate to the scale isn't cheating, it is just plain smart! All the same enjoy your challenge and your swivel gun posts look good with brass too. I look forward to your frequent updates.

 

Cheers

Alistair

[Adrieke]

i agree . doesn't matter what you use paper or brass as long as it turns out how you want  its good