Lines from above

[confused sailor]

Hi guys,

 

My first submission.  

 

Lines coming from above are sometimes  roved through the lubber´s hole to the shipside and must wear against  the outer side of the lubber`s holen as I see it. Would this be  accpetable or are blocks or fairleads used in some way.

[bruce d]

Hello confused sailor, welcome to MSW.

Good question, now I want to know as well.

Why not post something in the new members introduction thread (and maybe tell us if there is a story behind that screen name 😉 ) ?

 

Regards,

Bruce

[confused sailor]

 

I am humouros.  

[confused sailor]

Sorry hi 

bruce

[allanyed]

Hi CS

Your question really is a good one  but to which lines, ship(s), era are your referring?  A little more detail  might help get some helpful information.   I know I would like to see this as this question was raised here at MSW not too long ago but no answer based on contemporary information ever came up. 

Allan

[Jaager]

There are lines that belay at the base of a mast.  There are bitts and sometimes pins or cleats on a mast.  Rather than set up a situation wear a line would constantly rub by going inside the floor of a top and then on to the side, I would expect it would be more efficient to go outside the floor to the side of a ship. 

[confused sailor]

Hi Allen

 

It is a general question no specific line is ment.    The custion concerns full rigged ships from 1700 1800 1900c and modern vessels. 

 

I should have added the question of changes in thisr matter over the years.

 

Regards

[confused sailor]

Hi Jaager

 

I agree. Nevertheless there are drawings showing this ex Peterson.

 

Regards

[amateur]

The problem is: going outside the tops to the side does not work: the lines would need to cross through the standing rigging, and chafe at the outside of the tops (tops being fairly wide)

 

depending of where the line starts, and needs to end, it is going through the lubbers hole, or through a hole made in the floor of the top. See eg edT's log on the Young America showing how it was done in the American Clippers. 

 

Jan

[amateur]

Couple of years ago, Fred Hocker posted a drawing of the tops of Vasa. They show a number of holes. The line went in a straight line, and where it hit the top, they made a hole. (Size depending on rope thickness)

 

Edited September 17, 2021 by amateur

[confused sailor]

Hi  Amateur

 

When I agreed to Jaager about roving the lines outside the top I ment from the top to a place aft of the shrouds, not through them, and of course avoiding to interfer with the side of the top. This is seen on more modern ships.  I suppose lines can be roved to mastfoots, through the lubber´s hole and aft of the shrouds as long as they do not with anything else.

 

Regards 

 

confused sailor

[confused sailor]

On 9/18/2021 at 9:39 AM, confused sailor said:

Hi  Amateur

 

When I agreed to Jaager about roving the lines outside the top I ment from the top of a mast to a place aft of the shrouds, not through them, and of course avoiding to interfer with the side of the top. This is seen on more modern ships.  I suppose lines can be roved to mastfoots, through the lubber´s hole and aft of the shrouds as long as they do not with anything else.

 

Regards 

 

confused sailor