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Posted
7 hours ago, wefalck said:

There is always a bit of confusion, whether silkspan refers to a fabric or silkpaper (both were used in the past to 'span' over model aircraft wings). 

 

For the fabric you can also look for the finest screen for silk-screen printing, say on ebay.

 

For the paper you can look for the one that is used in book/manuscript restoring to double torn leaves. It is exremely thin and weighs only 7 g/m2. I got mine through a specialised on-line supplier.

 

Thanks Wefalck! I have heard the restoration paper referred to as Japanese tissue, and seen it used on the tv show "The Repair Shop". I was going to try it until my friend gave me some silkspan. Looking forward to Paris on the 16th!

Posted
10 hours ago, Dr PR said:

I followed Tom Lauria's YouTube procedure in Making Sails for Ship Models From Silkspan. Here is a link:

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19611-albatros-by-dr-pr-finished-mantua-scale-148-revenue-cutter-kitbash-about-1815/?do=findComment&comment=1035392

 

Using your frame should give better results!

Thanks very much Dr! I followed your link with interest, and followed on through your trials and tribulations with rigging your schooner. I must say Well Done Sir!

After reading your link I have decided that airbrushing my acrylics onto the silkspan should give suitable results, so I will try that and see how things progress. I will also tape the silkspan to the frame then shoot water onto it, should help to avoid tearing!

Regards,

Bruce

 

Posted

If it tears, it is paper. Fabric doesn't tear. I have used both for some 40+ years now. From here on I show an example for the procedure I use: 

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wefalck

 

panta rhei - Everything is in flux

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Lecrenb said:

Very nice and frame worthy Alan!

Thanks.

The neat thing is the back is glass so I can take it down and look at the other side as well.

Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

Out of State member of the New Bern Maritime Modelers Guild (2025)

Posted
4 hours ago, wefalck said:

If it tears, it is paper. Fabric doesn't tear. I have used both for some 40+ years now. From here on I show an example for the procedure I use: 

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Thanks for the link Wefalck, I read it with interest!

It seems the three methods I have come across so far are very similar, so I will proceed with reference to all three and hopefully everything will come out looking good!

Posted (edited)

A rainy morning here in Alberta, so a good time to get some work done on St. Roch's boats...

First I needed to carve back the stern of the motorboat. The first picture is St. Roch's motorboat showing the rudder and prop; this is what I am trying to emulate with the second picture...

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Then it was off to the paint booth...

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After the paint dried it was time to reeve the lifelines around each boat.

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I made eye splices at the end of each line...

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Here are the boats with the line and glue I used, ready for the final line splicing once the glue dries. I used 'No Sew' fabric glue to tack the lines into position... this dries clear and flexible, and will hold the lines in the proper shape while I make the final splices.

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Next I am going to make a start with the silkspan sails, and make the boat gripes and covers. Then the davits should complete the hull work on the ship except for putting some cargo in the hold.

It will be very exciting to put the hull aside and start finishing the masts!

 

Edited by Lecrenb
Posted

I used my Ausfwerks Fenderbender (so named because at 7 inches long it can bend the fenders on armored fighting vehicle models in one operation) to form the gripes for the boats. This is a true miniature brake and the best engineered product I have seen. Unfortunately it is no longer in production.

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I am not going to be able to make the boat covers before I go away for a bit, so here are the boats in their cradles, with the gripes inside, waiting for me to get back to them!

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The poop deck gets even more crowded after the new superstructure is added in 1944, but for now the spare rudder can still fit along or under one of the boats!

Thanks for looking in!

Posted

Santa arrived a couple of days ago, with assorted cargo for the hold! I was going to leave the hold empty to show the strong ice beams built into St. Roch, but once I decided to add a sailor unloading cargo I knew I had to have some cargo for him to work with! 

What arrived from Berkshire Valley (a model RR accessory company) was assorted sacks, crates, and barrels, all molded in O gauge, which is 1:48. There was just a bit of flash to clean off, then the parts, like anything coming from a mold, were rinsed thoroughly in warm soapy water to remove the mold release. Here is what they looked like:

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The resin parts after painting...

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And the cast metal sacks... the sailor has been glued to the plank he will be pushing his cargo along, in a sling suspended from the cargo derrick (one day soon!).

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Here is the cargo down the hold. The hatch cover canvas and boards are fixed onto the main deck, and the sailor is posed to push a sling of sacks...

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The details of the hold, and the ice beams, can still be seen. St. Roch shipped 150 tons of cargo for the various RCMP detachments she served, all had to be handled manually. If anyone asks me, she is at the far Eastern end of her supply run, thus almost empty!

I want to thank all the forum members who gave me thoughts and ideas about the cargo scene!

Regards,

Bruce

 

 

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