HMS Terror by richardhd - OcCre

[clearway]

I have a background in Engineering and also study the local iron and steel industry in West Cumberland along with Victorian industrial history- i imagine the iron strapping would have been wrought iron along with the plating. Henry Bessemers convertor for making steel came along a few years after the refits of Erebus and Terror (patented 1856 if memory serves right).

 

Keith

[richardhd]

Keith, 

 

Appreciate the information, out of curiosity what was manufacturing wrought iron like in the Victorian era? Was it difficult to produce pure iron? Would other trace metals routinely end up in iron for purposes like this? I partly ask because I’m considering adding some light weathering to the bands and plating and am curious how it would corrode aside from just the usual rust stains.

[clearway]

They took the cast iron blooms heated them and then hammered them into ingots which took a lot of the brittleness out, as regards quality iron making was vastly improved by the Victorians - also with the introduction of coke instead of charcoal for smelting better grade iron was possible. Another factor to consider is the type of paint which they used (heavily saturated with lead) which made it very resilient. If weathering the bow plating i would maybe add a few "scratches and scrapes" and maybe dry brush some rusty shades to the fastenings and edges of the plates.

 

Keith

Edited November 14, 2022 by clearway
typo

[richardhd]

Keith, 

 

Much appreciated, that’s precisely the information I was looking for. I don’t want to dirty her up too much, but she spent quite a long time bumping and scraping around in the ice and salt water, so I don’t want the finished product to be pristine either. As someone who started off in plastic, this is turning into a very familiar and exciting phase  of the build. Thanks for sharing your expertise, more updates soon, likely after the upcoming thanksgiving holiday. 
 

RHD

[richardhd]

Hi all, 

 

Over the weekend I took a stab at something I’ve been putting off, but no longer can as I’m approaching finishing the hull’s painting and protective coat: creating a diorama base to fit the Terror!

 

I picked up some foam from a local hardware store about 2 months ago and I’ve been sitting on it while I finished planking the hull and plating the bow. The idea was to cut the foam and fit it to the hull, then build up a sea and pack ice diorama on top. I needed to do this prior to finalizing the finish on the hull as I anticipated this scuffing or dirtying up the hull in the process (which it did!).

 

I used some frosted sea glass that I found while wandering around a hobby store as the “ice” and once I had the general shape of the negative space for the hull I began sculpting the surface.

Once all was in place I began painting, using some reference photos of—funnily—some Antarctic sea ice.

 

All in all, a good side project for the weekend. Back to working on the ship in coming weeks!
 

 

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by richardhd
Removed duplicate pictures

[richardhd]

Hi All,

 

More extensive of an update today. It’s been quite a few weeks but I have been busy on the Terror. Since I last posted she’s had a coat of paint, some work on the captain’s cabin, and work on her ice chocks. 
 

Following completion of the bow plating I found a method to fill in the gaps between the prow and the hull, then I painted the plating to ensure that it all looked as desired.

It all looked alright, rivets are a bit big, but happy with the result. Following that you can see that I masked off the deck in anticipation of painting the hull, of which I have one coat completed.

 

Side note: I am unsure why the pictures are displaying upside down. I even tried flipping them in my album prior to uploading and they still posted upside down. Apologies!

 

I ran into a little trouble with the ice chocks next. They were quite the chore to sand, it felt like the more I sanded the less progress I was making, but eventually I reached a stopping point and got them painted.

 

 

But there was more trouble to come.

 

 

I’d cut them too short! Not sure where this error was made as I’d been fairly careful and checked where they should be cut, but nevertheless here I was with two too-short ice chocks. Maybe I could just…?

 

 

 

Well that worked way better than expected. 
 

This was around the time I built the base for the model, here’s a shot of it in the finished base. 
 

 

The next item to work on was the windows for the captain’s cabin. After seeing Daniel’s Terror on this forum with the interior lighting, I couldn’t quite let go of the idea of illuminated windows, but this is my first model, I do not have the wooden model skills required to make the modifications to add internal LEDs and this build is long past the stage to start incorporating them. So I found some glow in the dark paint that could mimic lantern light. I also chemically blackened the window frames.

 

 

 

Of course, a shot of it lit up.

 

Now I’m moving on to building the rudder (which is much more fiddly and irritating than I expected) and painting some laser cut letters I will place along the transom.

 

Thanks for looking! Hope all are well!

[clearway]

Looking at the ice floe base you made - that does look the part😁. I saw your post on daniels log regards sails- i am currently doind Hellers pourquoi pas in 1/100 scale as well as Endurance and Terror and am going to try using model aircraft tissue from deluxe materials though will be a while till i get to that stage, but might try it on Endurance's sails as well.

 

Keith

[richardhd]

Hi all,

 

Making steady strides on the terror. Rudder and iron stern reinforcements added, as well as the name. All quite fiddly work and I’m certainly glad to have it done, but a very rewarding part of the build so far. She’s definitely in need of some cleaning up—paint needs touching up, have to get the rudder to match the rest of the hull, iron bands need blackening again—but at least the hardware’s in place! 
 

looking forward I think I’m about ready to cement the ice chocks in place and give the whole hull a protective coat. Then I can finally remove the masking over the deck and get a good look at how it’s all coming together!

Hope everyone had a fun and safe new year!

 

 

Edited January 1, 2023 by richardhd
Wording

[clearway]

Coming along Richard- you could use a varnish with a duller finish for below waterline - has anyone actually ascertained what colour they were painted below waterline as they weren't coppered and i would assume black pitch would have been used?

 

Keith

[richardhd]

Thanks Keith! I think that’s a great idea. Since I am not certain how she was painted above/below the waterline, my initial thought was to do the whole hull in semigloss black and do the armor and reinforcements in matte black. I’ve looked at some reference photos* and seen some staining at the waterline just from wear and tear, so I also considered that, but a change in finish might work really well.

 

(*of still sailing wooden ships of course, not the wreck)

Edited January 1, 2023 by richardhd
Clarification

[richardhd]

Hi all, 

 

Been a pretty long break away from the Terror for me, but this week I finally got back in the shipyard and brought the hull a little closer to being done. A few shots of the progress below. As usual, at least one photo insists on being upside down no matter what I do 😋.

 

 

[richardhd]

Hi all,

 

Short update today. I’ve tested out a wood stain for some of the deck fixtures that I like against the color of the deck and the yellow bulwarks. This week I stained the kit-provided deck houses with it. I’m happy with the results.

 

Nothing secured down yet, just testing things out. 
 

Also started putting together the catheads (less work than I anticipated!) and the not-kit-provided stern deckhouses (more work than I anticipated!). The deckhouses don’t look like much now, but I am making this up as I go along just trying to make sure my end results look like what I’ve seen on other terror builds here!
 

 

Fun additional shot: late night for Captain Crozier.

[clearway]

Coming along slowly but surely. That paint in the stern windows has worked really well.

 

Keith

[richardhd]

Emphasis on the “slowly”, Keith! But it is coming along.

 

Catheads installed and deckhouses constructed. Still need to paint and add doorknobs.

edit: wording 

Edited September 10, 2023 by richardhd

[clearway]

welcome back Richard- i am amazed Occre havn't updated their kits with the deckhouses by now- certainly makes it look more Terror like (just reakised when i logged in my Erebus was in a Terror sandwich build log wise😁

 

Keith

[richardhd]

When I logged in I saw your Erebus build and wondered if it was your original build and maybe all this time I’d just misread it as a Terror build! I’ll have to check it out.

 

Yeah not sure why OcCre hasn’t made some of the simple changes they could to improve the kit. The deckhouses were very fiddly and difficult to build from scratch and certainly would’ve looked better had they been based on instructions or pre-cut pieces. On the other hand, they are pretty satisfying to have completed entirely from scratch. 

[richardhd]

Hi All!

 

The second half of 2023 turned out to be an extremely busy time for me and I logged exactly 0 hours on my HMS Terror from September*-December 😕. But I’ve finally had a quiet weekend and got to spend some time working on her. Things to note:

 

Scratch Deckhouses: painted and fitted with knobs and hinges

Grates: done

Catheads: done

Bow pieces: done and glued

Stern Davits: started

Some Critical Decisions: made

 

The critical decisions are largely what extra resources I’d like to put into this build and hemming and hawing on them had delayed my progress. When I started this build I had very ambitious plans for the alterations I’d make to force the OcCre kit into a more historically-accurate build (fueled, of course, by my observation of the fantastic Terror builds on this forum). So far, I’ve been able to make some of those alterations where they involve scratch building and serve the overall goal of completing the kit (reshaping the stern, building a Master Korabel boat to learn the basics of planking and have a better ships boat, building the deckhouses, etc.) but I am reaching a point where the list of changes is becoming unwieldy and potentially very pricey. These include, but are not limited to, purchasing: a new ships wheel, chain plate replacements, more ships boats, Dr. Betts book, a new capstan, replacement belay pins, a new windlass, etc.

 

Ultimately I could justify some of these, but this is my first wooden build and to complete it will be a satisfying accomplishment on its own. With that in mind I will be moving forward with what is in the kit and I will make alterations to be more historically accurate where I can. So she will have an 8-spoked ships wheel and out of scale belay pins, but I will build a new capstan and windlass and so on and so forth.

 

I suppose I’m mostly writing this out to assure myself that it’ll still look good when finished. Anyway, enough musing. Some update pictures below! Thanks for checking in.

 

Edited January 15 by richardhd
*Accuracy

[richardhd]

Fixes, fixes…

 

Hi all! Very early on in this project I posted a couple pictures of one of the master korabel boats. When I ordered the Terror kit it took so long to be delivered that I ordered, received, and built the small boat kit in the time between ordering and receiving the Terror. It was officially my first foray into wooden models and as a result I made many novice mistakes. You can see below it looks quite bad:

 

As I have worked on the Terror I have learned a lot about wooden model building and have grown increasingly dissatisfied with my little boat. So much so, that I decided that if I wanted to display the Terror I’d need a replacement boat. Prior to ordering a replacement I tried my hand at salvaging my first attempt from two years ago since it’d end up trashed anyway. I sanded off the black stain, painted the hull, and re-stained the inside with a walnut stain. Results below:

 

Overall, I’m happy enough with the results that I’m going to keep this boat as the display boat on the Terror’s deck. Nice to have confirmation that I am growing as a modeler.

 

Thanks for checking in!

[richardhd]

Hi all, got some more time on the Terror the past few weeks, some pictures and updates below.
 

First up was the Phillips capstan. I’d never built something so tiny from scratch before and I can’t say I’m itching to do it again. It did turn out a bit squat, but overall I’m satisfied with the appearance, so it’s going on the ship. Beats the kit capstan anyway…

Next, the stern davits. I kept them straight as I do not trust myself to get a clean angle on both that will look symmetrical. 
 

Also added the little housing over the rudder post. 
 

 

Thanks for checking in!

[richardhd]

Hello all,

 

Rainy day means Terror time! Got some work in on additional deck details: the windlass, the table, started the ships wheel, and added some other small details. The windlass came out ok, I used a dowel I purchased at the hardware store and the wood is pretty dense, so I was apprehensive about cleanly cutting square holes out of it. In the end I opted to draw them on. Very apparent in pictures, but much less so from ~ 18 inches away, which is as close as any observer should be viewing this in real life. 

 

Also, either I calculated wrong or Occre did, but I do not think I received enough brass wire to make the required number of chain plates! So I took the opportunity to purchase some 3mm wide brass sheet. Looks much more the part anyway and I’m quite pleased with it. 
 

Thanks for checking in!

[Geowolf]

On 11/3/2022 at 3:22 AM, richardhd said:

Hi all, 

 

It’s been just shy of two months and I finally got around to making more progress on the bow plating. Nearly done, just have some of the keel to finish. Not dissatisfied with the appearance.

 

Have some finishing touches left on the hull, then hoping to get her all painted up before the holidays!

very nice metal planking, much better than mine! 😉

regards,

[richardhd]

Hi all,

 

Well, nearly a year later and I finally have an update on the build. The first section of chain plates is done, not quite as clean as I’d like it (particularly how uneven some of the angles are), but a good bit better than what the kit provided!

 

I made these chain plates by cutting a strip of 3mm brass sheet to length and drilling two holes through the ends based on a template I cut and drilled.

 

Then it’s simply a matter of sanding, bending, painting, assembling, and fastening to the hull.
 

 

I don’t completely trust that the deadeyes will stay in place once I start the rigging, so I’m unspooling a small section of the brass wire and bending it as a “tab” to keep it from slipping back through the drilled hole in the brass sheet. The other end of the wire is then pressed into the soft wood with some CA glue in a pilot hole I have drilled. As a result the whole chain plate is held in place at four points: the brass wire in the wood, the brass wire bent out to hold the sheet, and the two nails below the ice bumper.

 

A surprising amount of work for such a little piece of the build, but I think well worth it once completed. I’ve done 12 so far, just 60 more to go…

 

[clearway]

Welcome back-  ahh the joy of chainplates- still trying to find the drive to start on my HMS Erebus chainplates - especially as i still have memories of making Terrors!

 

Keith

[Jond]

I love the ice.   I am at a similar stage and thinking of how best to tell the story.  

 

cheers

[richardhd]

@Jond

 

Followed your terror build! Awesome to see you traveling to the site where the ships were. The ice was a fun side project and I’d like to eventually frame the base in black molding with a name plate.