petehay Posted August 6, 2013 #1 Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Inspired and encouraged by Mario, DeeDee and Hexnut I have started my Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack phase 1. Right before MSW went from v1 to v2 I went out and bought this kit along with the Midwest Sakonnet Daysailer. The Daysailer was my first wood boat kit and I learned a lot. I have since purchased a second Smack kit hence the phase 1/phase 2 reference. Following Mario's build as a primer I am currently building Smack #1 pretty much straight out of the box. I did plank the deck and floor with HO scale 2x10's from Northeastern Scale Lumber Co. and was very pleased with the results. I started the build over the Fourth of July weekend and thought the red, white, and blue color scheme was called for. I hope to follow this build with a totally bashed version a'la DeeDee but let's get this one built first. I have attached iPad Picts of where I am now with the build. Glad to join the Smack club. Pete Edited October 1, 2013 by petehay pete48, GrandpaPhil, hexnut and 1 other 4 Quote
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted August 6, 2013 #2 Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Pete, great start. Thanks for the info on the decking. that was going to be my first question. it really looks great. Red, white, and blue. Another great idea.....! There are so many variations of day sailers I may to build another one for the fun... Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER
captainbob Posted August 6, 2013 #3 Posted August 6, 2013 Nice hull to what I'm sure will be a fine boat. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
petehay Posted August 25, 2013 Author #4 Posted August 25, 2013 A bit of progress - hatch rails and hatch Pete pete48 1 Quote
petehay Posted October 1, 2013 Author #5 Posted October 1, 2013 Now that the weather here in Portland is starting to turn it's time to get back to the model boatyard. Over the rainy weekend I installed the toe rails, trail boards and the upper & lower molding. The stars on the trail boards are little sequins that I picked up at Michaels. I found the moldings to be particularly tedious to get right (and not get glue all over everything). Pete hexnut, cdogg and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote
captainbob Posted October 1, 2013 #6 Posted October 1, 2013 It's so nice watching this lovely little boat go together. bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
shawn32671 Posted October 4, 2013 #8 Posted October 4, 2013 The Midwest Products Skipjack kit I have calls for anti-fouling red and assume the lobster smack calls for the same but I don't have access to the Midwest Apprentice boat paints. What color in Testors brand would be close to the anti-fouling red? I just ordered this lobster smack myself and it won't be delivered for several more days but I'd like to round up the paints and supplies I need to get ready for the build. Quote Shawn Charles City, Iowa
hexnut Posted October 4, 2013 #9 Posted October 4, 2013 Looks great! I should really get my act together and do some more on mine... I did take a shot of a friendship sloop up in Essex, MA, good view of the rudder shape and gudgeons, (ignore the power conversion...) I don't know if you've done the rudder yet, but I know I was looking for info on it for a while... Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
cdogg Posted October 4, 2013 #10 Posted October 4, 2013 Looks great Pete, I have to get mine going again, I'm almost at the exact same stage. How did the 1/32 siding boards handle? Mine broke pretty quick, I resorted to a thicker strip of basswood. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
petehay Posted October 4, 2013 Author #11 Posted October 4, 2013 Shawn - I have not used Testors paint on anything other than plastic. I have used Tamiya acrylic model paint and they do have a "Hull Red" color. On the Lobster Smack I have used "Americana Acrylics" from Michaels. Very inexpensive and lots of colors. The smack hull is Barn Red & Deep Ultra Blue. I did have to try a couple of whites before I found one that wasn't too yellow. The trick I've found is to thin them with a couple of drops of water to a dime size blob of paint. I used the paint to seal the raw wood (no sanding sealer) Hexnut - Thanks for the photo. It's exactly the reference I needed. Rudder should go on this weekend. Casey - Yes, the 1/32" molding strips were a pain in the rear. I used a spacer block to guide the lower strip as I glued it on. I glued about 2" at a time to keep things lined up. Pete Quote
capnharv2 Posted October 4, 2013 #12 Posted October 4, 2013 Pete, Looks good! I'm glad you're having a good time on it. I'm tempted to build another one myself. Harvey Quote
shawn32671 Posted October 4, 2013 #13 Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks for the info Pete, gives me an idea of what shades of paints to look for then. Quote Shawn Charles City, Iowa
pete48 Posted October 14, 2013 #14 Posted October 14, 2013 looks good, are you doing a smashed version as well ? Thanks, Pete Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
trippwj Posted October 14, 2013 #15 Posted October 14, 2013 Coming along very nicely, Pete! Have you seen the plans (admittedly poor resolution) from Chapelle? I think your rudder design is accurate. There are some nice pictures of a 1:1 build here: http://apprenticinglandandsea.com/?p=207 pete48 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
petehay Posted October 15, 2013 Author #16 Posted October 15, 2013 Wayne, Thank you so much for that link. I visited the Apprenticeshop in Rockland this past summer and often dream of taking their courses to become a real wooden shipwright but at 62 and living on the west coast it will probably remain just a dream. Pete48, I hope to do a kit-bashed version of the smack (with a planked hull) that is in the same well worn condition as the image of the boat in hexnut's post above. A real example of a work boat with rust and wear and weather. When I see some of the stuff that the model car guys do to make a rusted beater and the weathering that the model railroad folks display - that's what I aspire to produce with my next attempt at the smack. Pete pete48 and trippwj 2 Quote
pete48 Posted October 15, 2013 #17 Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Awesome Pete, I look forward to seeing it, you are doing a great job on this one, Did you run into any problems with the parts not lining up properly ? I am excited to start mine so that I may add it to the Lobster Smack Regatta ( its fun to see all the other people who have done the same boat) I have seen alot of great detail I was thinking of adding working Navagation lights ( they have them that flicker to give you that oil lamp look) Have you seen them ? I figured I could put all the wiring and battery in the fish wells. Small 3 volt system. I will be following your Build Looks really good. Best Regards, Pete Edited October 15, 2013 by pete48 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
petehay Posted November 10, 2013 Author #18 Posted November 10, 2013 Slight progress - rudder, fish well hatch covers and seat. Now I can fret about the bowsprit. pete48, GrandpaPhil and hexnut 3 Quote
captainbob Posted November 10, 2013 #19 Posted November 10, 2013 I keep going back to look again at the boat. Love the colors and the beautiful wood finish. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
hexnut Posted November 10, 2013 #20 Posted November 10, 2013 Very Nice. The paint and wood treatment give this a truly classic look. Make sure Ralph Lauren doesn't steal it for advertising purposes... Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
shawn32671 Posted November 10, 2013 #21 Posted November 10, 2013 great build so far Quote Shawn Charles City, Iowa
cdogg Posted November 13, 2013 #22 Posted November 13, 2013 Any ideas for the Samson post? The kit provides a pretty simple one. Your boat is looking good. You doing sails too? Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
steamschooner Posted November 13, 2013 #23 Posted November 13, 2013 Hey, Pete. Your lobster smack is looking real good. You have come along ways grasshopper... Hope to see you at a meeting. Steve Quote Zipper hydroplane(Miss Mabel ) finished John Cudahy Scratch build 1/4" scale Steam Tug 1914 Steam Tug Scratch build from HAMMS plans 1820 Pinky "Eagle" Scratch build from; American Ships Their Plans and History
petehay Posted November 13, 2013 Author #24 Posted November 13, 2013 Casey, Hadn't thought of changing the Samson post. Do you have any examples of any less simple ones? Quote
hexnut Posted November 13, 2013 #25 Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Here's a few... A lot of these boats seem to have cranked the bobstays to the point of giving the bowsprit a "banana" shape, so the samson post needs to do a good job of preventing the bowsprit from moving back along the deck. Top pic looks like an English Cutter w/ offset bowsprit, just for comparison purposes. Alot of British workboats seem to pivot the bowsprit on the post but that feature seems more rare among American boats...The last photo is of an amazing Eric Ronnberg jr. model of a Friendship sloop called little Hattie--his models are usually better detailed than most real sailing craft... Edited November 13, 2013 by hexnut pete48 1 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
cdogg Posted November 14, 2013 #26 Posted November 14, 2013 No clue about the Samson post. I was hoping everyone would toss out some ideas, which hexnut provided some cool pics. Really like how you attached the rudder, looks great! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
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